Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

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It is a common WASP practice to use the last name of respected family members as a first name...I see it a lot here in the South. Here's a <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20021212174745/holoworld.com/ramseyreports/FamilyTree.jpg">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> to the family connections from Kreb to Fleet...not by relations but by godparentage. <br><br>It's just really interesting that the connection itself is quite demonstrable. I haven't read the interview yet...anyone see anything really discrediting so far? <p></p><i></i>

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Here's a brief bio of Fleet White Sr.:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Fleet Russell White was born March 20, 1913, in Clearwater, Calif. His parents were Mariner Fleet White and Ethel Townsend White. Fleet was raised in Long Beach, where he also attended school and was a top athlete, excelling in track and field, basketball and golf. After college at John Brown University in Arkansas, he spent time in the 1930s in Hawaii, where he fell in love with the warm beaches and surfing. With the beginning of World War II, Fleet enlisted as a trained pilot and served in England, France and Germany. He participated in the Rhine Mission, where he flew his glider from France, crossing the Rhine into Germany. After landing with his troops in Wesel, they then fought on land during the major offensive in Germany that brought the end of the war within reach.<br><br>After the end of the war, he spent some time in Hollywood acting in a number of postwar films. He enjoyed the movie business but soon decided he was ready to settle down and start a family. His bride was Nyla Marie Overseth, and they began married life in Hawaii. After enjoying a few years on the beaches of Hawaii, and the births of their children, Fleet Russell White Jr. and Lani Nyla White, they returned to his roots in Southern California.<br><br>Fleet began a new career in the oil business, eventually forming Fleet Oil Co., which became successful in contract oil lands leasing and oil and gas exploration. Fleet Oil Co.'s first major success was the Mahala Field in the Chino Hills, said to be the largest oil discovery in Riverside County. After his son joined him in the Fleet Oil Co., they partnered with Ron Nunn of Brentwood to develop the biggest gas well in the history of California.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20060811/OBITUARIES/108110054">www.aspentimes.com/articl.../108110054</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Ok I am a little confused here, can someone please spell this out for me.<br><br><br>My understanding now is that we have TWO women who have come forward, a BELINDA SHUTLZ and a NANCY KREBS, both accusingthe fleet white family of having ties with sexual abuse?<br><br>Is this correct. Im just a little confused about the shultz and krebs, is this the SAME woman or do we now have TWO women who are saying basically the same thing?<br><br>Appreciate anyone who can clarify this for me. <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

I'm not sure who Belinda Schulz is-someone mentioned in the periphery of the file handed to Calhoun, I think. Krebs is the woman who is making the allegations of organized pedophilic abuse by the White family as well as her own. She ties her experiences into what may have happened to JonBenet; particularly interesting point in her account is she says this man Mackey was the person in the group "strangling" the young victims, or causing autoerotic asphyixiation. Mackey was convicted of molesting her as a young child, but continued to have access to her through his brother, who married Krebs mother, Gwen. Now the interesting thing is Mackey died in November just prior to JonBenet's murder in December. Krebs speculates quite convincingly that the group gathered at the Fleet White home were having a pedophile party (her young niece was there, according to Gwen, and the niece is extremely disturbed and hysterical about the fact that "they killed the little girl.") and had to make do with a "strangler" who was inexperienced and accidentally killed JonBenet. <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

To which I might add, Karr is asserting the death was an accident. <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The Child and Family Advocacy Program provides statistics that 204 Boulder County children under 20 were sexually abused in 1998. (Daily Camera 7/12/99, p. 1C) "Parent of the Year" Zack Prendergast returns his award when it is found he had been <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>a trainer for The Children of God, a cult which advocated sex from infancy.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> (Daily Camera 8/5/99, p. 3B) Mr. Prendergast also runs fathering workshops. (Daily Camera 9/19/99, p. 1B) First Baptist Church treasurer Jerry Berry is arrested for fondling 3 little girls. Police find albums of child porn and seize 5 computers. (Daily Camera 8/14/99, p. 1B)<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.newsmakingnews.com/childravitz.htm">www.newsmakingnews.com/childravitz.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

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yes why is the "Pedo-international Security Dept" Involved? Wasnt it one of the higher ups getting busted few months ago with LOTS of child porn on his govt computer?!?!<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Thanks for the clarifiction Sunny <p></p><i></i>

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Big oil, banking and child sex. As I refreshed my memory on the Belinda Schultz information down in Texas and Schultz's six-year-old son reporting that he had been taken to the castle in Colorado, it dawned on me that I should keep in the back of my mind the Bush family's connection to Denver through Neil Bush. Remember Silverado S&L? Remember Neil Bush's divorce in which his wife's lawyer got Bush to admit that, while visiting <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Thailand</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, females would just come knocking on his door and then provide sexual favors? Now, why Thailand, and why did no one ask how old those females were? <p></p><i></i>

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Site with a list of articles on Fleet Russell White, Jr.:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.acandyrose.com/08032000fleetwhite.htm">www.acandyrose.com/080320...twhite.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Here's one from the above site with regards to the Nancy Krebs report:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/extra/ramsey/0826libe3.shtml">denver.rockymountainnews....ibe3.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 8/20/06 1:15 pm<br></i>

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Reading the interview with Krebs now. Good god, how could she be making this up? It is so incredibly detailed. I suppose it is possible that the details she gave didn't check out or something, but she gives plenty.<br><br> Krebs said she met Ramsey at a Rainbow Girl convention. At first I thought that was the Masonic kids group but I think that's "order of the rainbow". This is a Christian girls group that answers questions in their faq such as "is it a secret group" and "what is the ritual?' IT just goes deeper and deeper. Here's a snip from the Rainbow girl Faq:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>         <br>Home > Membership > FAQs<br><br>What is Rainbow?<br><br>Rainbow is a non-profit character building, service oriented organization. The main goal is to help its members become more than they dreamed possible. Involvement in Rainbow teaches girls three basic virtues: to have faith in a Supreme Being, other people and themselves; to have hope in all that they do; and to be charitable, for to live a life of service is the most rewarding life of all.<br><br><br><br>                <br>Who are Members of Rainbow?<br><br>Rainbow is open to girls between the ages of 11 and 20, regardless of race, creed, color or national origin. You do not have to be Christian to be a member. You can be assured that the values promoted by Rainbow are strong and basic to many religions.<br><br><br><br>Is Rainbow a Secret Organization?<br><br>In today's world, people are apprehensive about any activity that may be considered "secret."<br><br>Rainbow is different!<br><br>* Rainbow does have some closed meetings that only members attend. This is similar to sororities that bring groups of women together, but also have closed meetings. Rainbow is different - it allows not only members, but also members' parents, grandparents and legal guardians to attend those meetings. These individuals are welcomed and encouraged to participate in meetings and in other activities. They are also encouraged to serve on Advisory Boards.<br><br>* Nothing in Rainbow - meetings or activities - will ever be contrary to basic Christian teachings. You do not have to be Christian to be a member, but you can be assured that the values promoted by Rainbow are strong and basic to many religions.<br><br>* No actions will ever be required of members that would be against their personal beliefs or the instructions of church or home. In fact, members are encouraged to be loyal to their church and home. Members are never asked to make pledges or participate in activities that would be contrary to their moral values or make them feel uncomfortable.<br><br><br><br>What is Rainbow Heritage?<br><br>The International Order of the Rainbow for Girls has been a vital part of the lives of young women since its founding in 1922 by Reverend W. Mark Sexson. Rainbow is an active organization throughout the United States and in Aruba, Queensland and New South Wales in Australia, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Germany, Italy, Japan, and the Philippines.<br><br><br><br>Do Rainbow Girls have a Uniform?<br><br>Rainbow does have a "dress code" that applies to all Members and adults whether attending a local Assembly, Grand Assembly or Supreme Assembly, or when representing Rainbow elsewhere.<br><br>The Rainbow dress code specifies formal dresses for certain meetings and professional attire for other meetings. Rainbow Girls learn how to present themselves with grace and poise by wearing such a uniform.<br><br>When representing Rainbow in a group the dress should be tasteful and appropriate for the event.<br><br><br><br>What is the "Ritual?"<br><br>The script for the formal meetings and open ceremonies of Rainbow can be found in a book called the "Ritual." When a member holds an office in the Assembly, she learns her station's lecture from the Ritual, or as sometimes called, the book of ceremonies. By presenting a memorized lecture, Rainbow Girls learn about public speaking and leadership. The Ritual contains Rainbow's teachings based on right living and thinking.<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.iorg.org/membership_faqs.htm">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>

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More from Rainbow Girls site:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> The seven colors of the Rainbow represent seven teachings that each member receives on her journey toward the pot of gold.<br><br>                <br>        Red:         Love - In all its forms.<br>        Orange:         Religion - Though Rainbow is not a religious organization.<br>        Yellow:         Nature - Its importance in daily life.<br>        Green:         Immortality – An understanding of death as part of life.<br>        Blue:         Fidelity - An emphasis on being honest and reliable.<br>        Indigo:         Patriotism - Encouraging citizenship.<br>        Violet:         Service - The lesson that ties all others together.<br>                <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>WTFFFF?<br><br>The leader of the group is called the "Supreme Worthy ADvisor".<br><br>Correction, it is the same thing as the Masonic kids group. Krebs family were likely Masons, though you don't have to be a mason, says one site, to be in this order. IN any event, I knew a girl in this order and the ritual is Masonic...it's "secret" but she did give me one secret...items they memorize and their symbolism, like the apron and the trowel, etc. <br><br>But the fact that the website doesn't mention the freemason connection at all is a little weird. <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Good god, how could she be making this up? It is so incredibly detailed. I suppose it is possible that the details she gave didn't check out or something, but she gives plenty.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I completely agree with you, DE. I am quite disturbed about undocumented assertions that she has been discredited. All they can say is her story is unbelievable. Well, they should spend some time here at RI, is all I can say about that.<br><br> I am extremely interested in how far the detectives went in corroborating her story, and I am especially interested in what has become of Krebs recently, and what she may have to say about developements re JMK. <p></p><i></i>

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look at the picture that professsor pan posted of karr. i NOTICED RIGHT AWAY THAT SOMETHING WAS AMISS ON HIS THROAT, AS IF HE HAD HIS ADAMS APPLE SHAVED OFF.<br><br>i SEE THIS MORNING ON FOX NEWS THAT KARR HAD RECENTLY VISITED A SEX CHANGE CLINIC!!<br><br>ANYONE ELSE SEE THIS.<br><br><br>LOOK AT THE PIC OF HIS THROAT WITH THAT IN MIND.<br><br>MAYBE ANN COULTER SHOULD TAKE NOTE......LOL <p></p><i></i>

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