Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

[chiggerbit]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>and I am especially interested in what has become of Krebs recently, and what she may have to say about developements re</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Ditto. <br><br>I just edited above re a criminal investigation involving her report.<br><br><br><br> Shades of the Franklin child sex ring and the sentencing of the girl (Alisha Owens, maybe?) for something like 15 years for "perjury".<br><br><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">denver.rockymountainnews....ibe3.shtml</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--> <br><br><br>Criminal-libel inquiry targets journalists in Ramsey case <br>Probe linked to suggestion that girl died in sex party <br><br>By Karen Abbott<br>Denver Rocky Mountain News Staff Writer<br><br><br><br>Several news organizations and journalists are targets of a Boulder police investigation into whether they criminally libeled Ramsey murder case witness Fleet White.<br><br>Denver lawyer Tom Kelley, a specialist in libel and other First Amendment issues, said Friday the criminal libel statute has never been used against a news organization or journalist.<br><br>Boulder Assistant District Attorney Bill Wise said Friday that "multiple" organizations and journalists are being investigated, but he would not identify them.<br><br>The investigation focuses on reports earlier this year that a California woman had suggested 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey died during an adult sexual party.<br><br>The California woman said she had suffered years of abuse from a group of adults who forced children to submit to asphyxiation techniques for sexual purposes. A garrote was found around JonBenet's neck after her death. Autopsy reports said the child had been strangled and struck on the head.<br><br>The woman said she knew relatives of White, who was a close friend of John and Patsy Ramsey when their daughter died in 1996. Boulder police have said White is not a suspect in the child's murder, for which no one has been charged.<br><br>Police and prosecutors who investigated the woman's claims found no basis for her theory about JonBenet's death.<br><br>The Boulder Daily Camera said Thursday it is a target of the investigation.<br><br>Wise said the police investigation, requested earlier this month by White and his wife, has produced a 600-page file.<br><br>The file will be turned over to a special prosecutor because the Boulder DA's office has a conflict of interest, Wise said, due to District Attorney Alex Hunter's early statement that he found the California woman's assertions believable. Wise said that Hunter quickly retracted the statement, but that it probably would make him a witness in the case.<br><br>The special prosecutor will decide whether anyone should be charged with criminal libel, a felony punishable by up to two years in prison and a fine of up to $100,000.<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 8/20/06 1:28 pm<br></i>

[MASONIC PLOT]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/images/2006/08/17/imagef9848ff2-3644-4f09-b90f-b01d8bdc708e.jpg">www.cbsnews.com/images/20...dc708e.jpg</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>THIS IS A LINK TO THE PIC MENTIONED ABOVE, I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO POST IT TO THIS REPLAY, BUT CHECK OUT THE ADAMS APPLE IN LIGHT OF THE FACT FOX NEWS REPORTED THIS MORNING THAT HE RECENTLY VISITED A SEX CHANGE CLINIC <p></p><i></i>

[amygray1]

Here is another interesting document. They are notes from a meeting between Lee Hill, Alex Hunter, Barrie Harmtman, and Stephen Singular.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.jonbenetindexguide.com/02202000-LindaWickmanNotes-Krebs.txt">www.jonbenetindexguide.co...-Krebs.txt</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Some interesting points from the meeting<br><br>"Lee Hill stated that there were three girls who were passed around at the White's house. The Ramseys had gone to the White's house. This is the site where the fatal events occurred."<br><br>"In addition to Fleet White, Sr. and other people. The scenario is broader than the family. A prep, similar to an izon has occasionally come into play, reportedly to scare small children. It is unknown if this is a cult, church, or other religious sect. It is related to the "kink" that links the perverse sexual fetish the family uses. The events were filmed. They are attended by a close, exclusive group. "<br><br>"Alex Hunter asked if McReynolds fit in at all?<br><br>Singular replied, no, he is not relevant. His theory includes the following:<br><br>That there was a visible flash point/explosive behavior between the two men;<br><br>-the child was brought home dead;<br>-within 48 hours John Ramsey was a prime suspect;<br>-Ramsey confronts White;<br>-end of the relationship. "<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

Hmmmm....<br><br><br><br>"....Lee Hill stated that there wree three girls who were passed around at the White's house. The Ramseys had gone to the White's house. This is the site where the fatal events occurred.<br><br>Stephen Singular interjected that he had a different view of things. He didn't think the crime was committed at the White's residence. He thinks that there were three people present when JonBenet was killed. Fleet White, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>the video person who lives in this area</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, and the killer who doesn't live in this area. The witness has said that her family members were involved with the Whites and the Ramseys in general....."<br> <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

The forum that this was posted on simply pronounced it unvelievable...as far as I can tell there is no reason other than the fact that Krebs mentioned Ramsey was involved in raping her and as the "money man" for transmission of child porn. Given that child porn was found at this employer....well, I don't have to get into that.<br><br>The primary proponent of the Krebs story went by the name of "mame" on this forum. So you get this lovely bit of truthseeking:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>the mameslugs have reared their ugly heads again. WE may have to take them out again.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The hostility is incredible. Evidently they are all big fans of Fleet White who was "defamed" in this deposition and the "gotcha" is that people knew Ramsey was part of Kreb's story but didn't mention it...or something. It's really weird, actually.<br><br>Lee Hill was the man with her in the interview who evidently jumped bond for some reason and fled. Anyone know anything about him? <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

If the history of this board is any indication, mame or others involved in all that will find their way here. I just don't get the hostility...<br><br>In any event, if some of you folks are already around...delurk, please. Also the Newsmakingnews writers read here with regularity...I wonder about their take on the Krebs story. <br><br>There were SOOOO many facts that could be checked out and she clearly demonstrated her connection to the Whites, I don't think that's even in question. <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

amygray, those notes fit in with my emerging sense of the crime.<br><br>I'm beginning to hope JMK knows something regarding the crime. He could blow the lid off at least one group of elite pedophiles, and could make these sorts allegations more acceptable to law enforcement in the future. <br><br>Karr's statements fit in with Krebs' narrative.<br><br>-He says he was "there when she died." (does not rule out others being there, ie at a pedophile "party")<br><br>-He says he is not "innocent". (fits in with him being present at the "party" but not necessarily having a hand in killing her)<br><br>-Has "no comment on that" as to wether he knows John Ramsey.<br><br>. <br><br>Here is a rudimentary narrative on what could have happened-<br><br>JonBenet is choked at the party (attended by Krebs mother and niece) in Fleet White's house by an inexperienced person, in preparation of intercourse, re Kreb's statements. She dies accidentally, and no actual intercourse takes place. (witnessed by Kreb's niece, who was to be a victim as well-"they killed the little girl") The Ramsey's are forced to take her home and concoct a story, perhaps taking a low-level participant such a Karr with them so they won't "get their hands dirty."("No one was with him in the basement") Taking her home from the murder scene explains why the tape and cord are not found in the Ramsey home. Karr (or someone like him) uses the paint brush from the home to fashion a garrote, so AE is not obvious. She is struck in the head to also distract from sexual overtones of the murder. (only a teaspoon of blood from head wound, which means no beating heart when she was struck) Patsy the "Rainbow Girl" ( who can imagine an ra victim such as Krebs being allowed into an org that would not understand her predicament?) has to compose a ransom note intended to distract from sexual overtones of crime. <br><br>In order to save himself from very public suspicion, JR turns on his friend Fleet White jr. and accuses him to the police. White doesn't like that much, and launches his own efforts to implicate Ramsey.<br><br>John Ramsey is afraid and laying the groundwork to leave the country. <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

Did a google on "izon", not understanding what it meant, found just this, available only in cached. WTF???<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:fSs8JPmY7nwJ:izon.no-ip.org/forumwow/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D109%26sid%3D91b51044dfa2471eb26574f057db695b+izon%2Bscare&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3">64.233.167.104/search?q=c...=clnk&cd=3</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> Spells Updated today!<br> <br> <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>IZON</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.NO-IP.ORG Forum Index » [SPELLS] <br>View previous topic :: View next topic <br>Author Message <br>SFera<br>Site Admin<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 8/20/06 3:07 pm<br></i>

[sunny]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Lee Hill was the man with her in the interview who evidently jumped bond for some reason and fled. Anyone know anything about him<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>DE, go to page 9, my 4th comment down. I link to the "hostile" Fleet White lovin' forum, in which this person "Tricia" explains what happened to Lee Hill by saying he had gone nuts. Looks more to me like the man was in mortal fear for his life. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

You dont' need 25 knives to defend yourself so the pressure may have gotten to him. Sorry I missed that post earlier...I'm kinda going "stream of consciousness" on this. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

DE said:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Today in the paper, John Ramsey said he was so outraged by all the press frenzy that he was thinking of leaving the country.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br><br>John Ramsey's reaction all along has seemed...not what I would have expected, I guess, pretty reserved instead of relieved. I'm having one of those "on the one hand, on the other hand" reactions to his reactions. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 8/20/06 2:55 pm<br></i>

[Dreams End]

chiggerbit, that Izon thing is some kind of role playing game...maybe an online one. The heart of these games, like D&D is more about statistics and probability and the true D&D geek will rejoice in the intricacies of the stats. As someone who has played both D&D and the card game "Magic" I mean no disrespect....I'm part geek.<br><br>Anyway, that's what all that was about, tweaking various stats and attributes to better gameplay of whatever game that was. <p></p><i></i>

[amygray1]

Sunny said, "I'm beginning to hope JMK knows something regarding the crime. He could blow the lid off at least one group of elite pedophiles, and could make these sorts allegations more acceptable to law enforcement in the future."<br><br>At first I wondered if JMK was being brought forward to clear the Ramsey name so John could make another run for election. (AP) August 2004 "The father of slain child beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey lost his bid Tuesday for a state House seat, finishing a close second in the GOP primary despite widespread media coverage of his campaign." <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/03/politics/main633681.shtml">www.cbsnews.com/stories/2...3681.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>But, you have a very good point. After following the developments and re-reading the Nancy Krebs interview, your suggestion/hope makes more sense. It will be interesting to see what happens. I think that a poster previously mentioned that John Ramsey, in an interview, seemed hesitant to point the finger at JMK. Didn't another poster find an article that John Ramsey was leaving the country? <br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=amygray1>amygray1</A> at: 8/20/06 3:58 pm<br></i>

[sunny]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://jonbenetramsey.pbwiki.com/Intruder%20Theories">jonbenetramsey.pbwiki.com...20Theories</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Janet McReynolds, wife of "Santa" Bill, had a daughter who "had been kidnapped and sexually assaulted twenty-two years to the day before JonBenet's death" (SMF P 283; PSMF P 283.)" (Carnes 2003:36). <br>Janet also wrote a novel 20 years before JBR's death in which a child is abused and tortured in a basement (although the child subsequently died in a hospital, not the basement). <br>There were enough parallels to the facts of the JBR case that BPD took the play <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>("Hey Rube"<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> as evidence. <br>The full play is not on-line, but Webbsleuths has discussion boards on each of the play's 16 scenes:<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/19/015725.php">blogcritics.org/archives/...015725.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Hunter S. Thompson, of the possible connection to the Franklin pedophile ring. hmmm <p></p><i></i>

[amygray1]

Both Bill and Janet McReynolds were under the umbrella of suspicion. They were questioned and cleared, but then so was everyone else. Jonbenet told someone that she was expecting a visit from Santa. <br><br>I think Bill McReynolds has joined the list of those who were involved in this case and died. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=amygray1>amygray1</A> at: 8/20/06 3:10 pm<br></i>