Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

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Re: Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

Postby amygray1 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:19 pm

I remember reading the about the Ramsey's account of their activities after leaving the party. Many times they mentioned how tired Jonbenet was. After leaving the White's home, the Ramseys drove around Boulder delivering Christmas gifts. Jonbenet was asleep in the car. (dead?) Was the purpose of these late Christmas deliveries an attempt to establish that Jonbenet was alive after she left the White's home? Also, John had to carry Jonbenet into the home because she was in such a deep sleep. Patsy or John had to undress her. I believe that Patsy claims to have gotten her ready for bed. And if I recall correctly, Patsy claimed that she never woke up.<br><br>One of the things that conflicts with this would be the undigested pineapple contents in her stomach which indicate that she had eaten pineapple shortly, maybe an hour, before her death. There was pineapple on the table in the Ramsey home. There has been some controversy over this with some believing that she ate before she went to the White's party and others thinking that she ate with the intruder. Maybe she ate the pineapple at the White's home before she was murdered. The pineapple on the table at the Ramsey home could have been stage to make it appear as though she had gotten up in the night and eaten with an intruder? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=amygray1>amygray1</A> at: 8/20/06 4:20 pm<br></i>
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Re: Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:29 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>And if I recall correctly, Patsy claimed that she never woke up.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>And yet in all the volumns I've read in the last two days, I remember reading that JohBenet hadn't eaten much at the party and was hungry when they got home, so Patsy fed her some pineapple before JonBenet was put to bed.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

Postby Dreams End » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:29 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> The Autumn months are never a calm time in America. Back to Work, Back to School, Back to Football Practice, etc. ... Autumn is a very Traditional period, a time of strong Rituals and the celebrating of strange annual holidays like Halloween and Satanism and the fateful Harvest Moon, which can have ominous implications for some people.<br><br>Autumn is always a time of Fear and Greed and Hoarding for the winter coming on. Debt collectors are active on old people and fleece the weak and helpless. They want to lay in enough cash to weather the known horrors of January and February. There is always a rash of kidnapping and abductions of school children in the football months. Pre-teens of both sexes are traditionally seized and grabbed off the streets by gangs of organized Perverts.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>HST <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

Postby amygray1 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:34 pm

I just found this excerpt from Patsy's interview. <br><br><br>Det. Tom Haney (’98 police interview): “Look at me. If they’re not yours and they’re not John’s then they would be somebody else’s.”<br><br>Patsy Ramsey: “Right.”<br><br>Det. Tom Haney: “Now, I’m telling you they are not somebody else’s. Those prints belong to one of the two of you.”<br><br>Patsy Ramsey: “They do? You’re sure?”<br><br>Det. Tom Haney shakes head yes.<br><br>Patsy Ramsey: “Well, I don’t know. I did not put that there.”<br><br>Erin Moriarty: “The fingerprints on the bowl are Patsy’s suggesting she’s the one who gave the fruit to her daughter but if Patsy did give it to JonBenet and is lying about it then investigators wondered could she be lying about everything.”<br><br>Patsy Ramsey: “Right” (Quiet pause while Patsy looking at photo). “I did not feed JonBenet pineapple. Okay? So I don’t know how it got in her stomach and where this bowl of pineapple came from. I can’t recall putting that there.” <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=amygray1>amygray1</A> at: 8/20/06 4:04 pm<br></i>
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Re: Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:39 pm

Oh, shoot, now I will never find where I saw that. Pretty sure it was one of the links I posted of articles that were so very long. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

Postby amygray1 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:45 pm

I said earlier, "And if I recall correctly, Patsy claimed that she never woke up."<br><br>I think that I need to retract this. Patsy describes changing her clothes and so forth as if the child we sound asleep. I can not find where she makes this statement. I thought that I had read this. Sorry. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

Postby rocco33 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:50 pm

Sure, the Myspace connection I linked doesn't prove anything in regards to this case. Especially SRA. Bad example. I was just trying to show how there is a strange atmosphere in that area these days like never before. They seem to not even attempt to hide it anymore, like the 1980's.<br><br> But like someone else commented, I, too, from personal experience, know that this is a hotbed of real SRA. I have family whose lived in the area for over 35 years. <br><br> Mentioning the NewsMakingNews.com followers, as well as the attached Mae Brussell "sprouts", if anyone should know this area is a hotbed, it's them. They've documented it for 25 years in that basically 3 county stretch of Northern California. It would be interesting to get some sort of tally on the area since say...the 1960's and MK experiments. Anyone know any good links documenting Northern Cal's cases? From Aquino to Polk? . <br><br>In any case, my main goal was to post that link to the Spaceman analysis of this case from last night's radio show. Again, the archived audio can be downloaded here...<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://rapidshare.de/files/30075758/A_View_From_Space_C.E._-_Gary_Bell_-_19_August_2006.mp3.html">rapidshare.de/files/30075...6.mp3.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

Postby amygray1 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:51 pm

"Oh, shoot, now I will never find where I saw that. Pretty sure it was one of the links I posted of articles that were so very long."<br><br>LOL I know what you mean. You read so much and the information sticks with your brain. Yet, it is hard to remember where you got it from. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

Postby amygray1 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:29 pm

I suspect that there is a lot of truth to Nancy's story. Cyril Wecht thought that Jonbenet's injuries were consistent with sexual abuse. Of course, he quickly ran into some legal issues. Those who get too close to the truth seem to always find themselves dead or in legal trouble. <br><br>"The FBI has seized Wecht's private files, including documents on the Kennedy assassination, the death of Elvis Presley and the <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">JonBenet Ramsey slaying</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END-->."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_343774.html">www.pittsburghlive.com/x/...43774.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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SANTAS WIFE MAKES A FILM SIMILAR TO JB CASE IN 76

Postby MASONIC PLOT » Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:29 pm

Other Suspects<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://crimemagazine.com/jonbenet.htm">crimemagazine.com/jonbenet.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br><br>While spokespersons for the Ramseys have contended that the Boulder police failed to investigate anyone but the Ramseys, that is untrue. There was a wide-ranging investigation.<br><br>1. All present and former employees of Access Graphics (and their spouses) – which had 360 employees in July 1997 – were asked to give handwriting samples.<br><br>2. People who had been in the Ramsey house on Dec. 23 were questioned and investigated.<br><br>3. The man who had played Santa on that day (for the third year running), 67-year-old Bill McReynolds, a retired University of Colorado journalism professor, provided handwriting, blood and hair samples to police.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>CHECK THIS PART OUT!!</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4. His wife Janet, 64, who’d been a film and drama critic for the Boulder Daily Camera for 10 years, also gave handwriting, hair and blood samples after police learned she had written an award-winning play in 1976 about a young girl who was tortured and sexually abused for months, before being murdered in a basement. It was based on a true story from Indiana.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br><br>(Coincidentally, on Dec. 26, 1974, a 9-year-old daughter of the McReynolds was abducted and forced to watch as another young girl was molested. The two girls were then released and no one was ever arrested.)<br>The McReynolds told police that they both went to bed at 8 p.m. the night JonBenét was murdered.<br><br>McReynolds, who had allowed his Santa-like beard to grow for years, eventually shaved it off and he and his wife moved to the East Coast.<br><br>5. Then there’s Randy Simons, the 46-year-old professional photographer who was a veteran of the beauty pageant circuit. In October 1998, Simons was arrested while walking nude down a rural road in Colorado. When a deputy sheriff walked up to Simons, before the deputy said a word, Simons blurted, "I didn’t kill JonBenét." Simons had taken some of the best known pictures of JonBenét, and told authorities he felt his career as a photographer was ruined because he had been questioned in connection with her death.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: SANTAS WIFE MAKES A FILM SIMILAR TO JB CASE IN 76

Postby amygray1 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:40 pm

I thought that it was odd that the Ramsey's list of suspects were close friends. I think that McReynolds was on the list, but I have to find where I go that. Also, Jonbenet told a friend that she was expecting a secret visit from Santa.<br><br>In Janet McReynold's, "Hey Rube," the whole neighborhood was somehow involved. Jonbenet's murder sounds like it involved a neighborhood or community of people. I remember reading that the Ramsey dog was at a neighbor's house and that explained the lack of barking. <br><br>A few nights before the White party, the Ramsey's had a Christmas party. McReynolds was there. During this same party, a 9/11 call was made. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: SANTAS WIFE MAKES A FILM SIMILAR TO JB CASE IN 76

Postby FourthBase » Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:03 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Wecht's lawyer, David Armstrong, said federal agents are investigating why coroner's office employees moved boxes of files from Wecht's county office two days after District Attorney Stephen A. Zappala Jr. questioned whether Wecht was mixing public and private duties. <br><br>Armstrong said the records were moved because of a relocation of Wecht's private firm -- Cyril H. Wecht and Pathology Associates -- from Wood Street to Penn Avenue. He said some files had accumulated over the years at the coroner's office, and all the records were being consolidated at the more spacious Penn Avenue office. <br><br>...The FBI has seized Wecht's private files, including documents on the Kennedy assassination, the death of Elvis Presley and the JonBenet Ramsey slaying.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>WTF. What right did they have to do that?<br><br>The McReynolds play is a smoking gun, IMO. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: SANTAS WIFE MAKES A FILM SIMILAR TO JB CASE IN 76

Postby sunny » Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:57 pm

Just as a reminder, Cyril Wecht was an early proponent (long before Nancy Krebs) of the "sex game gone awry" theory. Cannot find exact quotes from him on the subject just now, but will post when I do.<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sunny@rigorousintuition>sunny</A> at: 8/20/06 7:58 pm<br></i>
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