Debra Lafave's dark secrets wont be exposed at trial

by **hmm** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:48 pm

I was reading through some of the reporting on the Debra Lafave case, a female teacher who had sex with a (underage) student, and came across some odd statements that i thought might be worth discussing. To be clear i am not trying to excuse her conduct or minimise the impact this could have had on the child in question. the basics of the case: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Tampa, Florida (AP) -- A female teacher whose sexual liaisons with a 14-year-old middle school student made tabloid headlines will avoid prison. As part of a plea agreement reached today, Debra Lafave will serve three years of house arrest and seven years probation. The 25-year-old pleaded guilty to two counts of ewd and lascivious battery. Lafave apologized during the hearing, saying that accepts full responsibility for her actions. If convicted at trial, she could have faced up to 15 years in prison on each count. The plea agreement also was designed to resolve similar charges pending in Marion County stemming from a sexual act with the student there. The boy told investigators the two had sex in a classroom at Greco Middle School in Temple Terrace, her Riverview town house and once in a car while his cousin drove them around Marion County. Her attorney has said she planned to plead insanity at trial, claiming that emotional stress kept her from knowing right from wrong.<hr></blockquote> <a href="http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=21470">www.tampabays10.com/news/...ryid=21470</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Debra Lafave: dark secrets will be exposed at trial By:Mike Deeson Tampa, Florida – Judge Wayne Timmerman, Hillsborough, County: “My interest is in having an impartial jury sit and hear this case.” That's why Judge Wayne Timmerman says he issued the gag order in the Debra Lafave case. Timmerman also dealt the defense several blows including ruling Lafave can not testify about the 14 year old's past history. The state says Lafave wants to testify the victim bragged to her. Mike Sinacore,Hillsborough State Attorney's Office: “The victim pointed to people in the year book claiming he had sexual acts with this one and this one.” Lafave's attorney also wanted to talk about explicit pictures by police after Lafave was arrested. John Fitzgibbons, Lafave's Attorney: “The officials from the Temple Terrace Police Department took photos of the genital area of client. Very explicit photos, pornographic photos and then attempted to photograph her breasts.” Timmerman agreed with the state and won't allow the testimony about the photographs. Mike Sinacore,Hillsborough State Attorney's Office: “It would be a side show, a complete sideshow over the photographs.” But the main show will hold plenty of interest, because of the insanity defense. That means Lafave's life will be an open book. John Fitzgibbons, Lafave's Attorney: “All the dirty laundry is out there. The most personal things in my client’s life the psychiatrist will talk about, as you can imagine. Just horrific secrets that people would never want to tell.” But in order to try to keep Lafave from going to prison, her attorney will reveal those secrets when the trial gets underway in two weeks, on December 5th.<hr></blockquote> so what are these dark secrets? <a href="http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=21618">www.tampabays10.com/news/...ryid=21618</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>LeFave also testified about sexual assaults Debra had endured from a classmate when she was 13. "But she told me it has taken place at her middle school… and I guess the majority of the occurrences it happened in the school and he would pen her into corners in the classroom and that type of thing." Casie Martinez reveled details of her sexual relationship with LaFave when the two were in high school. The state asked, "Were you sexually active with each other?" "Yes, we were," Martinez says. "Okay. was it more than just kissing then?" Oh yeah. oh, yeah" Martinez revealed she was not LeFave's only female lover.  "Well, even after we split and she went to Bloomingdale, she dated another girl after me." LeFave's husband and co-workers all talked about her revealing style of dress and her obsession with her weight. Some went as far as saying she had an eating disorder.  Owen LaFave told prosecutors, "I am aware she's been diagnosed with I think bipolar disorder, She is anorexic."<hr></blockquote> this piece has more: <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=300153&page=1">abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?...153&page=1</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>On Thursday, portions of recorded phone conversations between his estranged wife and her former student were released. The student's voice has been altered to protect his identity, but the tapes do provide a glimpse of their relationship. Often sounding almost childlike herself, the former middle school teacher at times extracts "pinky promises" from the boy. <hr></blockquote> <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Although a section of the tape has Lafave claiming her husband was "advising" her, Owen Lafave denied any knowledge of what was really happening.  Recalling that the boy's mother was upset that his wife had taken her son from school — either for a basketball game or to the mall — Owen Lafave said he was merely trying to help his wife handle an irate parent. "I remember the mother being upset and I was just advising her on how to deal with the mother from that perspective," he said. The audiotapes, however, suggest the incident was more complicated.<hr></blockquote> The judge in the case is criticized for belatedly placing a gag order on those involved in the case: <a href="http://www.saintpetersburgtimes.com/2005/11/20/Opinion/Gag_is_out_of_order.shtml">www.saintpetersburgtimes....rder.shtml</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr> What system does Hillsborough Circuit Judge Wayne S. Timmerman operate in where he finds it appropriate to gag the lawyers in a sensational teacher-student sex case?<hr></blockquote> A detective in the case is placed on leave for ordering "intimate" photo's of Debra (and soliciting a prostitute) <a href="http://stpetersburgtimes.com/2005/09/16/Hillsborough/Detective_in_Lafave_c.shtml">stpetersburgtimes.com/200...ve_c.shtml</a> <a href="http://www.sptimes.com/2005/09/17/Opinion/The_Lafave_photos.shtml">www.sptimes.com/2005/09/1...otos.shtml</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>But why did a female jail deputy, at the detectives' apparent direction, place Lafave's feet in stirrups and take close-up photographs of her genitals?<hr></blockquote> from a article about her past: <a href="http://news.tbo.com/news/MGBONGHB92E.html">news.tbo.com/news/MGBONGHB92E.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Lafave also worked as a model for Makes and Models Magazine, which features exotic cars. She was in its first issue, which included a photograph titled "Man's Best Friends," in which she sat atop a wide-screen television showing a Porsche. ~snip~ A year later, Lafave began her college internship at Weightman Middle School in Wesley Chapel, where her supervisors were impressed with her dedication. "In the classroom, Ms. Beasley maintains a positive enthusiastic, well-managed learning environment," then Weightman Principal Robert Aguis wrote in a recommendation letter. "She has always displayed confidence and professionalism." Professor Cindy Campbell supervised Lafave during her internship. Campbell said Lafave showed promise to be an excellent teacher. "She was so well-researched and prepared for her lessons," Campbell said. "She was one of those students that stood out. She was so professional during her internship. I still use her as an example in my teachings."<hr></blockquote> Eating disorder,bi-polar,abused as a child,child-like behaviour,sexualised "acting out", but also confident, professional, excellent and an example to others. i have seen this before... Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hmm@rigorousintuition>hmm</A> at: 11/24/05 11:03 am

by **banned** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:41 pm

...it used to be a teen boy who bedded an older woman got high fived rather than her going to jail, even house arrest. One of my best friends in high school never tired of telling how he boinked his English teacher his junior year. He'd skipped a grade so he was only 16. He wasn't what you'd call traumatized. What IS this world coming to?

Debra Lafave's dark secrets wont be exposed at trial

Debra Lafave's dark secrets wont be exposed at trial

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