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Rockstar, child prostitution, conspiracy

Postby nomo » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:08 pm

Vietnam shows stance with Glitter case<br>By Kate McGeown<br>BBC News, Vung Tau, Vietnam<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4769946.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-...769946.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"I'm innocent. This is a conspiracy," said former rock star Gary Glitter as he was led away from a Vietnamese courtroom on Friday.<br><br>But the judge thought otherwise, sentencing him to three years in jail for committing lewd acts against two young girls, and describing the disgraced rocker as having "a sickness".<br><br>So graphic was the court description of repeated sexual acts involving the two young victims, that the assembled Vietnamese onlookers gasped as some of the details were read out.<br><br>Before the verdict, Glitter stood with his arms clasped behind his back, showing no emotion. But on a seat adjacent to him, the mother of one of the victims sat quietly, tears welling up in her eyes.<br><br>When the guilty verdict was finally announced, the only surprise came from Glitter himself, who was clearly shocked by his sentence.<br><br>But it was not just the disgraced former rock star on trial on Friday. Vietnam's willingness to crackdown on paedophiles and other sex offenders were also in the dock.<br><br>Much of South East Asia is seen as a magnet for Western sex tourists, and Vietnam is no exception.<br><br>In the streets of Vung Tau, where Glitter committed his crime, cheap sex is readily available.<br><br>It is easy to find bars and massage parlours with scantily-clad girls eager to entice older Western men.<br><br>Western dream<br><br>One bar owner, who did not want to be named, said it was the dream of all the girls working in his establishment to marry a Western man.<br><br>"Girls in this town don't have many options," he said. "They are just trying to make a living as best they can."<br><br>The girls in these bars look young, but it is often difficult to tell their ages and none are likely to admit to being under 16.<br><br>There is little doubt, though, that child prostitution and sex abuse are relatively common in Vietnam.<br><br>According to a joint study conducted by the UN children's fund Unicef and the Vietnamese government in 2004, nearly 3% of people surveyed had suffered some form of sexual abuse - from being touched inappropriately to rape.<br><br>Children from poor, dysfunctional families are often at risk of being forced into prostitution, and some are even trafficked to other countries in the region, according to Le Hong Loan, Unicef's head of child protection in Ho Chi Minh City.<br><br>She said the issue of illegal sex with children - especially sex with foreigners - had not really been addressed adequately before Glitter's trial.<br><br>"The mechanisms were simply not there to deal with the issue," Le Hong Loan said.<br><br>But it seems that due to the trial of the once famous, now infamous rock star, the authorities are determined to take action.<br><br>"With this sentence, we have sent a signal to people like Gary Glitter who want to come to Vietnam," Nguyen Duc Trinh, deputy chief of the police investigation, said after the trial.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Rockstar, child prostitution, conspiracy

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:14 pm

Apparently only entertainment celebrities use poor judgement in their sex lives.<br><br>They have lots of latent political power and keeping them discreditied as a social class is very important to keep them compartmentalized as trivial distractions and never messengers.<br><br>Ask Jane Fonda and the Dixie Chicks.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Rockstar, child prostitution, conspiracy

Postby sunny » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:21 pm

HMW, you are so right. I always find it infuriating when the wing-nuts debate whether celebrities should use their public positions to espouse their political views, as if they aren't American citizens! They never debate Tom Selecks or Charleton Heston's right to speak out, however. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Rockstar, child prostitution, conspiracy

Postby Darklo » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:21 pm

Hugh are making some sort of apology for him?<br><br>That man is revolting, and he is not a celebrity, he's an absolute failure thats been hounded out of nearly every country he has stayed in since the Police in England found masses of child pornography on his computer. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Hell, no. No apologies for this behavior ever.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:32 pm

I am all too familiar first hand with the routine human devastation wreaked by men on women and children. I know a women who was just drugged and date-raped and also discovered that a man who raped my girlfriend twenty years ago has moved into my area with his wife and kids.<br><br>So I seethe to be in a world where the governor of my state has a nickname derived from his protected assaults on women: The Gropenfuhrer. Yes, state-sanctioned criminal celebrity Arnold Schwarzenegger.<br><br>So I focused on the crime of politicizing abuse instead of the abuse itself for that is how it is perpetuated.<br><br>Hope that clarifies my attitude. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I see your point

Postby Darklo » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:13 pm

The story hadnt been policitised, well not right away...<br><br>The media just rolled put some action group and all of a sudden we are debating about the controls on sex offenders. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Tighter controls on registered sex offenders travelling abroad could stop cases like Gary Glitter's happening again, children's charities say.<br><br>World Vision UK said existing laws allowing paedophiles to be banned from going abroad must be "used more". <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4771420.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4771420.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Good old Blairs Broadcasting Corp. <p></p><i></i>
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The story is PURE politics. It's Michael Jackson redux.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:00 pm

That is, it's <br>>theatrical distraction using celebrity<br>>sowing fearfullness in parents to be harvested with the police state<br>>covering up that the military intel gangs and their protected criminal allies are the real perps of child and woman sex traffic.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>World Vision UK said existing laws allowing paedophiles to be banned from going abroad must be "used more".<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>WORLD VISION??!! MUCH worse than the Jackson Distraction!<br>They are the missionary cut-out working for the CIA!<br>Chapman convicted of shooting Lennon? World Vision.<br>Hinckley convicted of shooting Reagan? World Vision.<br><br>World Vision is a division of the Morman Church and has been working as the 'tip of the spear' in devastated regions for the spook vultures and to infiltrate and destroy indiginous people's to better exploit third world resources.<br><br>Fucking World Vision. This story stinks.<br><br>Show trials to refute the expose's on the internet will increase I predict.<br><br>And people will have contraband planted on their computers to obtain those show trials and neutralize.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Some Moron Said It Before....

Postby Floyd Smoots » Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:12 am

....But, Hugh, I'll say it again, "at 'em boys, give 'em the gun."!!! And don't STOP shooting at perps 'til they come to get us all!!!!<br><br>Verinoid Floyd<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The story is PURE politics. It's Michael Jackson redux.

Postby StarmanSkye » Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:23 am

HMW said:<br>"Fucking World Vision. This story stinks.<br><br>"Show trials to refute the expose's on the internet will increase I predict.<br><br>"And people will have contraband planted on their computers to obtain those show trials and neutralize."<br>****<br><br>As we've seen, there isn't a cheap-trick, frame, blackmail/bribery scheme, evidence-plant, sting or set-up the PTB's goon-squad won't stoop-to to use to protect themselves or their clients' priveleges, interests, perks and abuse of power -- including setting-up disinfo targets and critics of the status quo.<br><br>I've heard of a couple cases of folks claiming their being busted on set-up charges of having child-porn images on their computers -- an especially insidious-type of frame and difficult to impossible to defend against. The adage of avoiding even the IMPRESSION of doing something grossly illegal, when it comes to having evidence planted on you by a zealous-but-unprincipled law-officer (or highly-motivated snitch not above nudging 'justice' in their favor) is essentially impossible to guard against -- other than maintaining one's credibility and integrity. <br><br>Perhaps there's a lucrative and valuable service-opportunity here in tech-savvy entrepreneurs creating and offering a personal-computer security-review service that routinely checks one's hard-drive against 'illegal', unauthorized and potentially compromising data, essentially guaranteeing one's personal/business computer and files are regularly scanned and certified to be 'safe' -- facilitated by maintaining a log record. So it would be inconceivable someone would willingly download banned content that they would be providing a paid service to discover (and tracing any firewall or filter breach download back to its source, as well as automatically erasing (or quarantining, subject to notifying Data Police or whoever)compromising content according to selected criteria. In a way, this would be like Bonding oneself and insuring against one's computer-security 'exposure'.<br><br>Some freaky Brave New World we're up against alright.<br><br>The widespread fracturing of many third-world's strong cultural taboos, extended-family networks preserving social and moral mores, and traditions of societal expectations governing ethical behavior and prohibiting sexual merchandising, is largely a product of western hegemonic influence, through colonial wars of exploitation, the major World Wars, and systems of post-war neocolonialism (linked to economic debt-schemes re: described by Perkin's Economic Hitmen and consumer-merchandizing/franchising). World Bank/IMF loan-programs since the 60s have tended to greatly increase economic disparity while imposing onerous repayment terms and, to avoid debt default, structural readjustment --mandating privatization of state industries and public resources & services. These trends favored unequal development based on urban migration exploiting cheap-labour, further undermining traditional family roles and codified behavior and values stressing inherant self-worth and human dignity linked to community reliance and interdependency. Until western-style capitalism was introduced to much of the developing world, predatory prostitution and child-abuse were virtually unknown. <br><br>A question comes to mind> Although incidents of sexual slavery and abuse of women weren't unknown, they weren't anywhere near as widespread in many parts of the world before modern systems of capitalism and markets were developed by the modern nation-states: Is the contemporay incidence of widespread merchandized sexual abuse and prostitution inherant to modern capitalism itself, or are these practices deliberately introduced, encouraged and managed as tactics to weaken traditional social forms, to facilitate modern faux-democracy and globalization as per the New World Order agenda?<br><br>Starman <p></p><i></i>
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Starman's Kinfolk, Mama Always Sed....

Postby Floyd Smoots » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:50 pm

....that aliens took her real baby boy, and left me with her as a bookmark. Pretty good humor for a late, lamented ma who was born in 1906. She confessed this to me circa 1971, when I was a USNAV squid-kid. It really hurt my feelin's <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Not funny, though, your last posted paragraph is too close to the truth. Don't tell anybody else, Okay? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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