Karr Is Not Being Charged

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Karr Is Not Being Charged

Postby xsic bastardx » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:07 pm

<br><br> <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14553130/?GT1=8404" target="top">www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14553130/?GT1=8404</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br><br> How about them apples ladies and gentleman. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Karr Is Not Being Charged

Postby sunny » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:13 pm

Transported from the Arrest Made.. thread:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>California will extradite.<br><br>Good. I want to hear what the man says. With 5 misdemeanor charges, (which btw tells me he had 5 images) and the six months he spent in jail because he couldn't make bail, he'll probably be sentenced to time served, plus a fine, or 30-60 days for FTA.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>The judge in this case, who btw oversaw the mysterious GJ probe, and Mary Lacy have a lot of explaining to do. <p></p><i></i>
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Ramseys.

Postby xsic bastardx » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:27 pm

<br><br><br> I feel pretty confident that this is the closest that you will ever see to a suspect in this case. The woman who wrote the note is dead, and the man responsible is sitting somewhere in a southern state quietly laughing to himself in his sick little mind.<br><br><br> They lock people up for using Drugs <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>they</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> import and sell to us, Prisons filled with lost fucking drug addicts who are slaves to the new face of the perpetuating Beast.I'm glad Karr is getting charged, it's all a bunch of misdeamor crap, they should lock this guy up for general principals. I know the system, They let these guys walk all over the place cause it serves the pupose of telling everyone it's not safe from predators. It's as manufactured as Terrorisim in the fact that they are both organic in origin but manuipulated in<br>in Facilitation. personally he needs to get the shit kicked out of him by some boys in Orange in the county jail cause that is all that is ever gonna happen to him.<br> I have been three tears up in a cell block listening to the Cons berate a Child Molester. A grown man crying to the point of asking for his mother. The man knew what it was like to fear for his life that night, for the rest of his nights in Prison. <br> It's short lived. Child Molesters are the first ones out and the first ones back in. Paroled out the door like a whisper on the wind. These guys are let loose everyday<br>to reek there fucking havok on our children. <br><br> Justice is blind when it comes to these crimes.<br><br> How dare he take advatage of that poor girls death. <br><br> I hope justice finds you with ducktape and and a broom handle. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Ramseys.

Postby sunny » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:52 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Child Molesters are the first ones out and the first ones back in. Paroled out the door like a whisper on the wind. These guys are let loose everyday<br>to reek there fucking havok on our children.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>I see it nearly every day in my work. Some of the kids I work with have been abused so horribly, I will not even describe it. Nothing ever happened to my children when they were growing up, but I was prepared, as I am with my little granddaughters, to KILL THE MOTHERFUCKERS, ok? I don't care if I leave a record of my intentions if such a thing were to happen. Just take it as a warning to all perverts. I will gladly go to prison. I'll admit it and turn myself in, announcing I would do it all over again.<br><br>If everyone took that stand, you wouldn't see thse creeps so anxious to get out of prison. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Ramseys.

Postby Dreams End » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:24 pm

I thought I'd heard that California dropped the charges against him so that there'd be no legal technicalities to overcome in the extradition.<br><br>i.e. Karr 1, law enforcement 0. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Ramseys.

Postby chiggerbit » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:32 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>...Some of the kids I work with have been abused so horribly...</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Yes, sunny, and if you stick around long enough, you will see some of these same broken, heart-breaking victims, especially the ones that have suffered the most, eventually become perps themselves. That's the point at which I lost my bellyful of anger. Not sure what to call the emotion that replaced it, but the effect was more "3-D". <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Parallel with a movie

Postby ivanbo2003 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:47 pm

Just Cause<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113501/">www.imdb.com/title/tt0113501/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I'm not sure how much of a parallel could be drawn between the unfortunate JonBenet murder case and the movie "Just Cause" but it's interesting how in a movie the killer gets free by playing an excellent performance and fooling every single person(even the viewer).But his lawyer keeps digging up stuff and finds out that he made it possible that the killer is set free.He made an awful mistake and more people could die...<br><br>Who knows who else was involved in the killing of unfortunate child.Interesting how officials are focusing on one individual man and not on a group of people that could have been involved(Jeff's post on this topic in RigInt site was excellent) <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=ivanbo2003>ivanbo2003</A> at: 8/28/06 9:48 pm<br></i>
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Re: Parallel with a movie

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:48 pm

cross post from the larger thread:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/images/08/28/karr.mot.to.quash.pdf">i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/imag....quash.pdf</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: Ramseys.

Postby chiggerbit » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:52 pm

I think it's important to remember the other victims of these crimes, too, how impacted the ones on the periphery can be. Remember the story of Steve Stayner, the boy who was kidnapped by Kenneth Parnell, a man who sexually abuses Steven for the next seven years? So, how vote you? For the death penalty or against, with regards to Steven's brother Cary's murders of four women?<br> <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.movietome.com/movietome/servlet/MovieMain/movieid-8795//">www.movietome.com/movieto...eid-8795//</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Steven's eventually re-united with his family, but I believe he dies in a motorcycle accident a few years later. THEN, a number years later, his brother is found to have been the murderer of four women in Yosemite. <br><br>It's like ripples on a pond surface. It-is-all-so-much-more-complicated-than-it-looks-on-the -surface. It is not all black and white. But it is tragic.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/serial-killers/cary-stayner/">www.rotten.com/library/bi...y-stayner/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>clip<br><br>13 Aug 1961 Cary Stayner born. <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>c. 1971 Cary Stayner is molested as a child.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>4 Dec 1972 Brother, Steven Stayner, abducted at age 7 in Merced, CA</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> walking home from Charles Wright Elementary School, and held by Kevin Parnell as a sex slave for eight years. <br>1980 Kevin Parnell's boy Steven is getting a bit on the old side, so he kidnaps Timmy White, age 5. <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>1 Mar 1980</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Brother, Steven Stayner, escapes captivity with the second boy, Timmy White. <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>c. 1985 Kevin Parnell released from prison.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>22 May 1989 Made-for-TV movie, I Know My First Name is Steven, with Corin Nemec as Steven. <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>16 Sep 1989 Brother, Steven Stayner, killed in a motorcycle accident at age 24</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> (some give the date as the 20th.) <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>1990 Jesse Stayner, Cary's uncle, murdered in a case that has not been solved. Cary lived with him at the time.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>1991 Attempts suicide with carbon monoxide.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>1997 Makes a stab at the medical marijuana business. Fails, mobile home is repossessed. <br>1997 Cedar Lodge hires Cary Stayner to do odd jobs. <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>15 Feb 1999 Murders Carole Sund and Silvina Pelosso, at Cedar Lodge. <br>16 Feb 1999 Kills Juli Sund.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> 1<br>8 Mar 1999 Carole Sund's rental car located in Tuolomne County. Two charred bodies are in the trunk, Sund's and Pelosso's. <br>25 Mar 1999 Juli Sund's body found <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>based on information sent anonymously by Cary Stayner.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>21 Jul 1999 Murders Joie Ruth Armstrong, a 26-year-old nature guide, at Yosemite National Park.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>22 Jul 1999 Joie Armstrong's body found, decapitated. <br>24 Jul 1999 Cary Stayner arrested as a witness at the Laguna del Sol nudist camp, Wilton CA. The arresting officer, FBI Agent Jeff Rinek, observed that nearly all the women at the camp were "out of shape."<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> Stayner requests a "good sized stack" of child pornography as a condition of his confession,</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> which was surprising -- Stayner was not even a suspect. <br>24 Jul 1999 Confesses. "Lost control of myself and lost control of her, and when all this started out... I had no intentions of cutting her head off." <br>30 Nov 2000 Pleads guilty to the murder of Joie Armstrong. <br>12 Jul 2000 A judge rules the government may seek the death penalty. <br>Dec 2002 Cary Stayner asks for a new trial on the grounds that none of the jurors were molestation victims. <br>12 Dec 2002 Cary Stayner sentenced to death in San Quentin. <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>3 Jan 2003 Kevin Parnell arrested at his Berkeley home after he tries to purchase a young boy.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>Aug 2003 The Sund family accepts a $1M wrongful death settlement from Cedar Lodge. <br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 8/28/06 10:28 pm<br></i>
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Re: Ramseys.

Postby FourthBase » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:53 am

Sounds like these "my name is Steven" type stories might be more than they seem, in terms of the missing child's family being involved. <p></p><i></i>
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ripples on a pond

Postby rain » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:04 am

so now we know all about Karr.<br>and he walks<br><br>as Arcadia (if I recall correctly) noted, this guys looks like he's been long prepared, constructed.<br><br>so does JBR, IMO.<br><br>I'll say it again, (cos it got eaten by the gremlins, on the other thread.)<br><br>in regard to the virulent meme 'accident' or 'ritual gone wrong'<br>IMO, it looks like a <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>ritual gone right</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>'sex-game', I'd hazard a guess-timation, refers to much more than what the Ramsey's and their associates may have been up to.<br><br>it looks to me, at least at the moment, like a 'modern' variation, with all the attendant magic and mystery, of reputedly older rituals, practised around the world (altho I'd like to name a couple of places, but shan't).<br>and perhaps, moreso, those with the intention of propitiating the 'gods' for 'clear sailing' and 'abundant crops'.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"Evil on this scale is impossible to comprehend. To know who murdered JonBenét Ramsey is to know what world we live in, where we are."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.konformist.com/jonbenet.htm">www.konformist.com/jonbenet.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Maybe.<br><br>but I'd sure as hell like to see a list of the names of the 200 or so masons who reportedly showed up for the 'capstone' ceremony at DIA.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ripples on a pond

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:11 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I'd sure as hell like to see a list of the names of the 200 or so masons who reportedly showed up for the 'capstone' ceremony at DIA.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Did the date of the ceremony coincide with her death?<br><br>Yes, it was me you quoted, and I agree; It's acceptable to believe that some things are meant to end in bloodshed. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: ripples on a pond

Postby rain » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:26 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Did the date of the ceremony coincide with her death?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>No.<br><br>the capstone's dated <br><br>March 19,1994.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ripples on a pond

Postby Dreams End » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:31 am

One thing is clear if you have seen the autopsy photos...the strangling death was no accident. Marks were too deep...severe force was applied. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ripples on a pond

Postby chiggerbit » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:40 am

DE, if you've seen the autopsy report, can you tell me if they could determine whether the blow came before or after the strangulation? <p></p><i></i>
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