Sleaze row - LIHOP ?

by **postrchild** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:52 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>The best plan is this: OVERWHELM them at the polls. Turn out in such #'s as to make it impossible to hide the theft. 20-30 % of the electorate, the Boosh Cultists, will not care how they won, but WhoTF are they, compared to the rest of us? Such an obvious theft will be a watershed for many people, forcing a confrontation that will determine matters, one way or the other. <hr></blockquote> Exactly. Thanks sunny!<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)">

by **MASONIC PLOT** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:06 pm

Nemo---Mckinney saying they KNEW of the attacks and did nothing to prevent them is a far cry from saying they PLANNED AND PLOTTED THE ATTACKS themselves, which is exactly what they did. Those who imply they knew it was coming and did nothing are disinfo agents in my opinion. They planned and plotted to murder 3000 people with remote controlled aircraft, the evidence is quite overwhelming. Read my article "Dov Zakheim and the 9-11 conspiracy" Also read Jerry Matta's work, a man who has used my research to even go further into the web of lies regarding the 9-11 INSIDE JOB.

by **johnny nemo** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:13 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Nemo---Mckinney saying they KNEW of the attacks and did nothing to prevent them is a far cry from saying they PLANNED AND PLOTTED THE ATTACKS themselves, which is exactly what they did. Those who imply they knew it was coming and did nothing are disinfo agents in my opinion.<hr></blockquote> Until they have an actual smoking gun, LIHOP is the most that any politician can accuse W. of. Anything else is slander at this point and could be considered treason.

by **MASONIC PLOT** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:17 pm

Postr, I do apologize for coming across as someone who didnt appreciate your ideas. I do feel very strongly about my ideas but I am of course always open to dialogue and new ideas. You are correct that we have much in common and I certainly respect that. Please continue to speak freely and openly and criticize me where you feel it is needed. As far as your statement that my ideas would lead to old west shoot outs and anarchy, I would say we are already there. We have a gang of thugs, who run a protection racket and they shake us down for our money on the threat of death or imprisonment. Thats anarchy. In the many years I have studied these matters I have heard the phrase LIMITED GOVT thrown around by many many people. The idea of limited govt is nonsense, no govt can be limited. Any govt that is going to govern MUST have the ULTIMATE ABILITY to KILL YOU if you do not follow its laws. If they do not have this ability, ulitmately, then their laws are merely SUGGESTIONS. This is why I contend that govt does not exist and it cannot exist, the only thing that can in fact exist is a rogue state made up of armed criminals who force you to live the way they tell you to or they can lock you up and ultimately kill you. I will have no part in giving such thugs the permission to continue carrying out their terrorization of good honest working people who just want to be left alone. When someone comes up with an idea as to how to limit govt then I will certainly entertain the possibility of getting involved and working very hard to make that happen. But right now this is not what we have and I am obligated to abstain and continue working towards self rule and liberation from armed and criminal rogue states, for all freedom loving people. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=masonicplot>MASONIC PLOT</A> at: 10/10/06 12:24 pm

by **johnny nemo** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:33 pm

It's the government of armed thugs who shake you down, but it's also the government that.... feeds and houses people, builds and repairs roads, sends food, clothing and medicine to impoverished people in other countries, passes and enforces laws to protect workers, wildlife, etc. In other words, not all evil. All we need to do is make the government more humanitarian and less homicidal, by VOTING THE RIGHT PEOPLE INTO POWER. BTW, if you drive on a road and pay taxes, you're participating IN THE SHAKEDOWN.

by **MASONIC PLOT** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:43 pm

I never gave anyone permission to put asphalt down between the point A and Point B that I have a right to travel from. If they choose to do that then so be it. I have nothing to do with it. My trucks and motorcycles work fine on dirt roads. As for taxes, I grow most of my own food, but when I do have to buy things the store owner pays the taxes not me. If he doesnt pay the taxes they come after him they dont come after me. Not my problem. Saying that if I buy a t shirt im a taxpayer is akin to saying if you buy something from a mormon who then uses your purchase money to tithe his church, this makes you a mormon. Its a silly argument. I have never once given ANYONE permission to rule me, sure my parents ruled me until I was of age to rule myself, since that time I have been under self rule entirely. Others have voted for criminals and seemingly felt they had the right to give permission for others to rule me, where they got that silly idea I do not know, if you do, please inform me. I never once suffered from the delusions of the average state worshiper that there was a govt and that it did good things for us. ALL of our problems are the result of this fictictious govt which isnt a govt at all but rather a rogue state of armed thugs shaking everydown at gun point.

by **johnny nemo** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:12 pm

Now you're just being silly. You are paying taxes on things you buy and your wages. Those taxes pay for the maintenance and/or expansion of roads that you drive your truck and motorcycle on, as well as the wars fought in foreign countries. Every drop of gas you put in the tank of your autos goes directly to make W. and his buddies richer and make corrupt governments more powerful. That's why I've NEVER driven a car and never will. Until you stop driving a combustion engine automobile, you're still part of the problem, no matter how much you delude yourself otherwise. EDIT: Your motorcycle and truck were also made by exploited labor in a third world country. By buying them, you further empower the people you hate to continue to shake people down. Gottta love the shit-stem that seeks to make us all complicit in its' crimes. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=johnnynemo>johnny nemo</A> at: 10/10/06 1:22 pm

by **OpLan** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:16 pm

From <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy" target="top">Wikipedia</a> Anarchy (Greek: áíáñ÷ßá) is the anarchist society, the stateless society of free people. Anarchism is the name of a political philosophy, or a generic term for a group of more-or-less related political philosophies, derived from the Greek an-archos ("without archons" or "without rulers"). Thus, "anarchism," in its most general semantic meaning, is the belief that all forms of rulership are undesirable and should be abolished. One who practices anarchy does not believe in political or moral authority, but may believe in voluntary leadership. The rise of anarchism as a philosophical movement in the late 18th century, with its notion of freedom as being based upon political and economic self-rule. It was a reaction to the rise of the nation-state and large-scale industrial capitalism. Although anarchists are unified in the rejection of the state, they differ about economic arrangements and possible rules that would prevail in a stateless society. On this issue anarchists differ widely, ranging from advocates of complete common ownership and distribution according to need, to supporters of private property and free market competition. For example, most forms of anarchism, such as that of anarcho-communism, not only seek rejection of the state, but also other systems which they perceive as authoritarian, which includes capitalism and private property. Many individualist anarchists are mutualists - they support capitalism in terms of private ownership of both products and means of production, but reject "usary" (rent, interest, and profit from other's labor.) A more modern branch of individualism called anarcho-capitalism supports non-statist capitalism fully. Thus, both branches support individual sovereignty, free trade, free competition and private property. The word "anarchy", as most anarchists use it, does not imply chaos, nihilism, anomie or the total absence of rules, but rather an anti-authoritarian society that is based on voluntary association of free individuals in autonomous communities, operating on principles of mutual aid and self-governance. ----------------------------------------------------------- "I have never once given ANYONE permission to rule me, sure my parents ruled me until I was of age to rule myself, since that time I have been under self rule entirely. Others have voted for criminals and seemingly felt they had the right to give permission for others to rule me, where they got that silly idea I do not know, if you do, please inform me" Masonic..you are more of an anarchist than the criminals you mislabel. As for your store owner..(If I'm not mistaken)..he buys the goods from a warehouse at a discounted price.He then adds on the tax charges and whatever profit he thinks he can get away with.They only come after him if he decides he doesn't want to pass on the tax he has collected from you.

by **postrchild** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:38 pm

"Oooh BURN!"<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"> lol Ok for real though. If you think you dont pay taxes you are mistaken. I know some ppl who operate completely off the radar. They pay no taxes besides sales, get paid under the table, dont drive or vote. They are totally voiceless in society. But this is by their own choice. Either ducking a corrupt and racially biased law enforcement system, or unfounded child support claims or the like. Anarchy is not the reality. There are anarchistic tendencies if you want to stray from the literal meaning a tad, but we are still a lawful society. We are all "following the rules" for the most part, its just the ones who make the laws have decided they are above them. Make no mistake, We are in serious trouble here in the U.S. Our soveriegnty is more compromised than an AA cockpit could ever have been. They are using psychological tools, subtle and not so, to foment amicable responses from americans to their agendas. "Control, this is the cabin.....I think we have been hijacked...." We discuss the myriad of tools they use here on this board every day. There is no escape from the control grid. Dont worry the CCTV cameras on every street corner is coming to a small town near you.....SOON. The RFID chips they cant get you to readily inject into your body, are sold to you in products you unwittingly purchase. They are still tracking you. Your remote "grotto of insurgency" is still able to be located by military satellites and county tax records. It was set up before you were born. This has been a long time coming. Since the.....Masons! It must all be a masonic plot.....lol. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>...felt they had the right to give permission for others to rule me, where they got that silly idea I do not know, if you do, please inform me.<hr></blockquote> Well when you choose not to vote thats where they get the idea. Thats what you say when you dont vote, "Its ok for you to decide whats right for me." Which I wouldnt ever say, and I have a feeling if you looked at it a little differently you'd say the same. In fact you are saying the same, but then contradicting yourself by way of (in)action. Voting weather counted or not, at least potentially, morally absolves you of future circumstances. Like me who voted Nader....well he didnt win, but I am in no way responsible for the actions of the criminally installed puppet regime that runs our country (into the ground) currently. They are all the same gang though. Doesnt matter what letter they put in front of their names. If they are getting big publicity on TV/Media you can bet they are in a few pockets at least. We need campaign and lobby reform. That in my opinion is where it starts. How can you trust the greedy human put in front of you? Take away the temptation. Then lower the goddamn wages for politicians. It needs to be less of a superstar gig. Hey about making their wages eternally tied to the minimum wage! That way you'd never have a substandard living wage and you wouldnt have morally corrupt, money hungry thugs running for office, lying through their crooked cock sucking teeth every chance they get. We need answers not back woods protests of no confidence. I am sorry if I digressed to ad hom attax but there has got to be a solution. An achievable one damnit! How about everyone withdrawing from Soc Sec? That could be a form of monetary protest. How about just refusing to go to work? A week or so of that and you'd have something, and only need minor compliance compared to CNV, like 30-40% instead of 100%. It theoretically would have worked for the Mexicans. We have got to start at the root of the corruption. Cut the root and the branches die! It is campaign and lobby reform my friends. In fact the more I say it the more it makes perfect sense. That could be a platform that alot of politicians could run on too, since corruption is a hot button issue lately..... Thoughts anyone?

by **johnny nemo** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:06 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Voting weather counted or not, at least potentially, morally absolves you of future circumstances. Like me who voted Nader....well he didnt win, but I am in no way responsible for the actions of the criminally installed puppet regime that runs our country (into the ground) currently.<hr></blockquote> Well, you're not REALLY absolved, since the Republi-cons funded Nader, in order to take votes away from Kerry (and Gore before that).

Sleaze row - LIHOP ?

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It's not that simple

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