Questions about Nancy Krebs/Websleuths

[sunny]

FourthBase, I asked this question in the Johnny Gosch thread, but you didn't see it, so I thought I'd ask again:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I noticed you have begun posting at Websleuths.(they won't let me register!) I was wondering if you have brought up Nancy Krebs yet, and what the reaction was. IMO, her allegations fit all the facts in the JBR case, and a long linked and cited post (linking and citing is a little sparse there) bringing it all together might get deleted (as I've said before, they get quite angry over the Krebs issue, and consider Fleet White Jr.above reproach, but a careful reading of Krebs leads one to understand she is mostly pointing to White Sr. and John Ramsey. How others portrayed her story is not her fault.) but may accomplish the goal of getting some folks thinking. <br><br>Good folks there, but most refuse to consider organized pedo rings, it is simply too much to wrap their minds around.<br><br>What say you?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>However, as I was browsing around over there, I found that a lot of posters, some of them still current, are willing to give Nancy a fair hearing.(<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9931" target="top">See this thread</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->) Tricia, otoh, has her reasons for not allowing discussions of Nancy's allegations:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?<br>t=43064" target="top">From here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Fleet White did not do this crime. Yes, he has been cleared. And for all of you who are big on the DNA his DNA doesn't match. <br><br>Fleet White and his family has been through hell. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>I know them.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> I can't have a forum I own trashing this family after everything they have been through. <br><br>You are free to discuss him because he is central to the case but he did not do the crime <br><br>I'm going to close this thread and move it.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Found through <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43107" target="top">this thread</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, started by a poster wondering why the thread had been closed.<br><br>Notice in the "nancy krebs" thread, not one of FW supporters gives any specific details as to why Nancy is discredited on the forum. When "iron" continues to press the matter, they can only say she is lying and/or nuts. I know Tricia owns the forum, but I think she owes it to her posters to explain just what her connection is to the White family.<br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sunny@rigorousintuition>sunny</A> at: 9/10/06 3:13 pm<br></i>

[FourthBase]

Not sure why you haven't been "approved", it only took a few hours for my registration to be approved. I'm assuming it's not suspicious or anything, but let me know if you still can't register. You got the verification email, right?<br><br>As for Krebs, I got the impression that many if not most there think she's nuts, but none of them seemed to have any substantial reasons for it.<br><br>It's suspicious that Tricia knows the Whites and because of that won't let Krebs be discussed. I hadn't seen that. I wonder how well she knows them. Pretty astounding, that the owner of Websleuths knows the guy who was with John Ramsey when he found JonBenet. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fourthbase>FourthBase</A> at: 9/10/06 4:07 pm<br></i>

[sunny]

I have not tried to register again. I didn't get a response when I asked why my registration was rejected. et en Arcadia ego was also rejected.(see our exchange page 13 Johnny Gosch thread) He thinks there is a mole over there reading here, and not liking our take on the case at all, but you got through, so it must be more benign than that. <br><br>For them to censor any discussion of Krebs without offering any good reasons at all when a lot of her info is verifiable is highly suspicious. After all, she <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>does</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> accuse John Ramsey of being involved, and they are all about blaming the Ramsey's over there. It <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>must</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> have something to do with the fact that Nancy is also accusing the White's, and Tricia has unexplained connections to them.<br><br>FWIW, Tricia keeps saying none of the kiddie porn films Nancy alleges exist have never been found. I wonder what pedophile surfing the net would be willing to turn them over? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sunny@rigorousintuition>sunny</A> at: 9/10/06 12:24 pm<br></i>

[sunny]

On top of everything else, Tricia misrepresents some of the things Nancy said:<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9931&page=2&pp=25">websleuths.com/forums/sho...ge=2&pp=25</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Susan Bennett says Fleet White is innocent and Krebs is not believable.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> (Tricia hates Bennet, aka "Jameson." Wonder why she's credible in this instance?)<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>There has never been a tape of these so called sex parties uncovered. Yet Nancy said they made the tapes and John Ramsey sold them</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.(see my comment in the post above)<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Nancy said John Ramsey raped her with a coke bottle</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.(wrong.Nancy said FW raped her with a coke bottle. And how does this prove she's lying?) <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Nancy said she was burned to the bone by a stun gun, yet there is no scar. There is nothing to indicate any injury.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> (Nancy never said she was "burned to the bone.")<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Nancy said her mother was at the party at the White's house the night of the murder. Lie. Wrong. Made up</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.(How does she know this is a lie? Interestingly, the Whites did have California guests staying with them over Christmas, tho we have never been privy to the names. Did Alex Hunter know they were related to Nancy, and that is why he found her credible? <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/6502/primer/primer4_time.html" target="top">See here.</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>7:00 am + <br> John and Fleet White went to Burke's room and woke him up. According to Schiller, Fleet along with John Fernie drove Burke first to the Fernies' to pick up his children and took all the kids to the Whites' <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>where Whites' houseguests (friends and relatives from California</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->) looked after all the kids. Burke never asked why the family was no longer flying to Michigan as planned, where his sister was, or why police were in the house. At 7:45am Fleet and Fernie returned to the Ramsey home.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sunny@rigorousintuition>sunny</A> at: 9/10/06 12:47 pm<br></i>

[chiggerbit]

In all the various links I've read through, I think I remember someone commenting that Burke's voice could be heard on the 9/11 call. Could be wrong. <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

chiggerbit, in my mind, the lies about Burke still being in bed when the 9/11 call was made was an attempt to get him out of as much questioning as possible. It does not indicate to me, as it does to others, that Burke was involved somehow in the murder. You won't hear the enhanced tape as Lin Wood has managed to suppress it, but at the WS forum, you can hear the tape, and there <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>is</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> something there. <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

FourthBase, you might want to direct i_dont_chat and Chrishope to our threads on JBR. I wouldn't mind if some of those good people saw my questions concerning Tricia's connection to the White's, and our questions regarding the lack of substance in the objections to Nancy.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43107">websleuths.com/forums/sho...hp?t=43107</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

I will send both a private message with a link here.<br>Can you change the thread's title to make it about Krebs? <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

Absolutely. <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

BTW, the thread in which I quoted Tricia as saying she knew the White's is no longer there. Hmm, someone definitely reading over here. <br><br>But I'll tell you this- I accurately copied that quote from that thread, and it is now here for all to see. Ask Tricia why she moved it out of reach. <p></p><i></i>

[i dont chat]

New member here.<br><br>Thanks for getting the message to me about this board. <br><br>I shall do my homework and get caught up.<br><br>Good to be here! <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

And welcome to you, i don't chat! I look forward to discussing the case with you. <br><br>Don't forget to look <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition" target="top">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> and then <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm33" target="top">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> for more of our discussions about JBR and organized pedophilia.<br><br>And don't forget Jeff's blog:http://rigint.blogspot.com/ Scroll down to the subject header <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Military-Occult Complex, ritual abuse/mind control, and "High Weirdness"</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> in the subject index. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sunny@rigorousintuition>sunny</A> at: 9/10/06 5:01 pm<br></i>

[chiggerbit]

Anybody notice over there how BrotherMoon tired to subtly intimidate the opposition by commenting, "Btw, it would be nice if posters would include their area of residence."? I'm inclined to think that site is a sticky fly trap, purposely set up to draw in readers, then shut down any dissention from their own "official story".<br><br>(At this link:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9931)">websleuths.com/forums/sho...hp?t=9931)</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

And they constantly accuse those in opposition to the "official story" of being sent by "jameson" and posting under different "hats", <br><br>For the record: I totally disagree with "jameson" in her exoneration of the Ramseys. To me, it is patently obvious they know what happened to "that child", and accidentally or not, facillitated it by involving their innocent little girl in ritual abuse. They are disgusting in my eyes. My mission here in this thread and others is to foster an open debate on <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>every</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> aspect of the crime.(just my opinion)<br><br>BTW, a quote from Project Willow from <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm33.showMessage?topicID=112.topic" target="top">this thread</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> says it perfectly:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I believe Jonbenet was killed accidentally during a Christmas ritual. The Ramsey's were more than likely hosts, and when their daughter succumbed to the uses of a high ranking male in the cult, they had to scramble to figure out how to explain her death. Then it took them all night to figure it out and clean up the remnants of the night's festivities.<br><br>Just a hunch on my part, but it would fit. <br>PW<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sunny@rigorousintuition>sunny</A> at: 9/10/06 5:36 pm<br></i>

[FourthBase]

iron had some good questions:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Seriously, I appreciate the input and will read more before I discuss anymore. I did get through the entire BPD interview (took about an hour and did skim where I thought they were talking about taking breaks etc). That is strange she called up a poster (i think administrator) here and threatened to sue (<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>how did she get phone numbers?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->).<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I've yet to see good reasons to believe Krebs is a lying psychopath or whatnot. Tricia's main beef seems to be that White's name was publicized while Ramsey's wasn't. And? I don't get it. <p></p><i></i>