*HFS: is hastert the next to be outed?

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*HFS: is hastert the next to be outed?

Postby dude h homeslice ix » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:38 pm

*HFS=holy fucking shit.<br><br><br>October 7/8, 2006 -- The rumors about another top GOP member of the House being involved in sexual encounters with young "men for hire" are confirmed to WMR by well-placed sources in Washington's gay community. The member in question is House Speaker Dennis Hastert, whose "alternate" life style is the primary reason for him and his staff covering up the scandal involving ex-Florida GOP Rep. Mark Foley and his lewd messages sent to underage male congressional pages. Hastert's penchant to receive anal sex is well-known to our sources in DC's gay community. Additionally, Hastert's reported extremely small penis is the subject of many jokes among Washington's gay circles.<br><br><br>user posted image<br>Speaker Hastert: The "butt" of many jokes among Washington's gay community.<br><br>WMR reported on old charges that swirled around Hastert when he was a high school wrestling coach at Yorkville High School in Yorkville, Illinois. Hastert decided to enter politics in 1980 after rumors surfaced about inappropriate contact with male high school students.<br><br>In July, Hastert was hospitalized at Bethesda Naval Hospital for cellulitis, a bacterial skin infection. In the Feb. 7, 2003 issue of AIDS Treatment News, doctors reported that they saw "a large increase in aggressive, antibiotic-resistant 'staph' (Staphylococcus aureus) skin infections in gay men in some areas -- and a separate epidemic in certain prisons. Symptoms include boils or blisters; treatment can be difficult, and sometimes requires hospitalization. One HIV doctor in Los Angeles who used to see about one case a year is now seeing two a week. In the past this infection occurred mainly in hospitals." The reports of serious skin infections among gay men was also reported in the Los Angeles Times on Jan. 27, 2003.<br><br>WMR has also learned that Republicans will soon mount an effort to discredit a senior House Democratic member with a sex scandal of a rather different nature. The member is aware of the plans and is circling the political wagons if the GOP launches their expected attack.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/">www.waynemadsenreport.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: *HFS: is hastert the next to be outed?

Postby dude h homeslice ix » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:40 pm

QUOTE<br>Denny Hastert has put me in a difficult position.<br><br>I've heard rumors. Unsubstantiated talk. No proof yet. But I've heard things. Just like I heard things about Mark Foley this past July. This time I've heard things about a relatively senior Republican member of the House, and also about someone on the Speaker's own staff. Both rumors seem relevant to this story as it's unfolding.<br><br>So here's my dilemma. Denny Hastert says that if I don't report the unsubstantiated allegations I've heard, I'm a criminal. But the thing is, I'm also a journalist, and a good human being. I don't think it's right to print unsubstantiated rumors I've heard, rumors that could make life quite difficult for this Republican congressman and this senior member of Hastert's staff.<br><br>So what do I do? Do I publish unsubstantiated rumors about a GOP congressman and one of Denny Hastert's top aides? I don't want to, I don't think it's right, but Denny Hastert says he'll sic the FBI on me for hurting children if I don't. And he'll probably end up blaming Nancy Pelosi if my rumors turn out to be true and I didn't go public with them.<br><br>So what do I do? Maybe I'll just call Denny Hastert's office on Monday, tell them what I've heard, and let them decide how comfortable they are with the Speaker's new standard of justice.Denny Hastert has put me in a difficult position.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://americablog.blogspot.com/">americablog.blogspot.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: *HFS: is hastert the next to be outed?

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:29 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>This seems to be getting closer to breaking wide:<br></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Who is Scott Palmer?<br><br>He is Speaker Hastert's chief of staff, which makes him the key player in the what-did-Hastert-know-and-when-did-he-know-it drama. Scott Palmer has issued a statement flatly denying that Kirk Fordham, Mark Foley's former chief of staff, warned him that Foley was crossing the line with pages long before Foley's inappropriate email surfaced.<br><br>Palmer's denial of Fordham's headline-grabbing claim is the thread Hastert's Speakership is now hanging by.<br><br>In Hastert's brief, evasive press conference on Thursday, sharp reporters immediately zeroed in on Palmer's role in the Foley information flow. Did Hastert leap to the defense of his chief of staff's honor in the crucial credibility contest with Kirk Fordham? Did he say I know Scott Palmer and I know he's telling the truth? No. He avoided every question with Palmer's name in it. Hastert obviously does not want to talk about Scott Palmer.<br><br>If Fordham did warn Palmer about Foley a long time ago, what are the odds that Palmer did not tell Hastert? As close to zero as you can get. Many chiefs of staff are close, very close, to their bosses on Capitol Hill. But <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>none are closer than Scott Palmer is to Denny Hastert. They don't just work together all day, they live together.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>There are plenty of odd couple Congressmen who have roomed together on Capitol Hill, but <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>I have never heard of a chief of staff who rooms with his boss. It is beyond unusual</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. But it must have its advantages. Anything they forget to tell each other at the office, they have until bedtime to catch up on. And then there's breakfast for anything they forgot to tell each other before falling asleep. And then there's all day at the office. Hastert and Palmer are together more than any other co-workers in the Congress.<br><br>For now, Hastert is holding on to the Speaker's office because the Republicans don't have anyone in the leadership who is squeaky clean enough to take the job. Every one of them is tainted by the Foley scandal or the Abramoff scandal or the DeLay scandal or, like Henry Hyde, has some ancient sexual indiscretion in his background. But if the press cracks Scott Palmer's denial of Kirk Fordham's bombshell, then Denny Hastert is going to have to pass the gavel to some freshman we've never heard of.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-odonnell/who-is-scott-palmer_b_31171.html">www.huffingtonpost.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: *HFS: is hastert the next to be outed?

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:39 pm

Scott Palmer<br><br>Personal: Born Nov. 22, 1950, in Hartford, Ct., single, no children<br><br>Education: Aurora University, B.A., history (1972) and masters in management (1983)<br><br>Career:<br>Registrar and director of public information and publications, Aurora University (1972-84)<br>Development director for a nonprofit agency serving the developmentally disabled (1984-85)<br>Marketing director for Merchants Bancorp (1985-86)<br>Chief of staff, U.S. Rep. Hastert (1986-present).<br><br>In January 1995, Palmer also assumed duties as deputy chief of staff for U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas, who was then the majority whip when Hastert was the chief deputy whip. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/mrs_panstreppon/2006/oct/05/top_repubican_chiefs_of_staff">www.tpmcafe.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: *HFS: is hastert the next to be outed?

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:41 pm

WASHINGTON - When Scott Palmer received an honorary degree in 2002 from his alma mater, Aurora University in Illinois, he urged the graduating class to "give back to our university, to our community and to our country."<br><br>As chief of staff to House Speaker Dennis Hastert, an Illinois Republican, Palmer runs a congressional office that has been able to do just that for Aurora, the birthplace of his boss and the largest city in his home district.<br><br>Hastert has earmarked $24 million in grants for Aurora-based nonprofit groups since becoming speaker in 1999, using an obscure section of the big federal spending bills passed each year.<br><br>Nine months after the cap-and-gown ceremony honoring Palmer, Aurora University got $9.8 million to construct a teacher training institute. Aurora's Rush-Copley Medical Center, where Palmer is an unpaid trustee, captured a total of $5.5 million in 2002 and 2003. About $3.4 million has gone to another Aurora hospital where another member of Hastert's staff had worked. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050530/REPOSITORY/505300316/1037/NEWS04">www.concordmonitor.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: *HFS: is hastert the next to be outed?

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:47 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Originally from the Chicago Tribune, 6/1/05:</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Hastert's closest adviser is his longtime chief of staff, Scott Palmer, 54, one whose style is at least as low key as the speaker's but one who is also known for delivering results. Second to Palmer is deputy chief of staff, Mike Stokke, 43. In addition to the men's government salaries, Hastert's political action committee also pays them for outside political work, records show. {snip}<br><br>Palmer, a former employee of Aurora College who started with Hastert as a volunteer on a state legislative campaign, has been Hastert's chief of staff since he arrived in Washington in 1987. At the center of the speaker's operations, Palmer is described by some as Hastert's "alter ego."<br><br>"You cannot underestimate the relationship that the speaker has with Scott," said Hastert campaign spokesman John McGovern. "Scott is Denny's closest and most trusted adviser." {snip}<br><br>When in Washington, Palmer, Stokke and Hastert share a townhouse near the Capitol. And, like Hastert, his top aides maintain residences in Illinois - Palmer in Aurora and Stokke in Bloomington.<br><br>A typical night in Washington for Hastert is likely to end with a dinner with Palmer and Stokke at AV Ristorante Italiano, a red sauce Italian restaurant in a transitional neighborhood of Washington.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Originally from the Chicago Sun-Times, 2/14/06:</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Just ran into Jean Hastert, the wife of House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) in the hallway outside the speakers' Capitol office suite. She just dropped in on her husband. {snip}<br><br>When in Washington, the speaker lives in a group house with his chief of staff, Scott Palmer and top deputy, Mike Stokke.<br><br>I asked her if she is bunking with the guys.<br><br>She is not. She stays in a hotel.<br><br>Found in the comments on <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/13/121650/389">dailykos, June 13</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: *HFS: is hastert the next to be outed?

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:31 pm

OMG, Hassert's married? Hmmmm. Just when Palmer was beginning to sound like Hassert's Hillary. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 10/7/06 3:34 pm<br></i>
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Re: *HFS: is hastert the next to be outed?

Postby dude h homeslice ix » Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:36 pm

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Re: *HFS: is hastert the next to be outed?

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:47 pm

The previous Republican speaker was Newt Gingrich. Why did he resign? Dirt here:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.realchange.org/gingrich.htm">www.realchange.org/gingrich.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>And was the person who was expected to replace him some Livingston dude, who had to drop out due to adultery or something? So, they're not ALL gay, which I sure should make the Republicans voters feel better. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 10/7/06 5:01 pm<br></i>
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Riddle me this

Postby jingofever » Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:56 pm

Is it usual for a chief of staff to be paid less than a deputy chief of staff, hell less than just about everyone getting a salary? Scott Palmer's salary for 1/1/06 - 3/31/06 is a paltry $2957.77 + $67.22 (don't know why there are two amounts. two checks?). For comparison, John Boehner's CoS recieved $26,638.00. Roy Blunt's CoS recieved $37,466.67. There is something funny going on there.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.legistorm.com/member/Hon_Dennis_Hastert/271/5.html">Hastert staff salaries for 1/1/06 - 3/31/06</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Edit: I just looked at all of the posts here. I see a Chicago Tribune article explains that Hastert's PAC pays some salary. I suppose that is where they get the bulk of their money. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=jingofever>jingofever</A> at: 10/7/06 4:03 pm<br></i>
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I will be identifying the name of a closeted senior

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:33 am

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.blogactive.com/" target="top">www.blogactive.com/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br>Starting Monday... Investigate these closeted staffers<br>I am very concerned what these CLOSETED high level staffers have done. This site first reported on the danger Kirk Fordham was to gays OVER TWO YEARS AGO. Before anyone gets out the violins for poor Kirk, remember he was the money chief for US Senator Mel Martinez's campaign. You know Mel, he's the one who equaled marriage equality with living under "totalitarian rule in Cuba."<br><br>It's not that Kirk is gay that got him in trouble. It's that he was hiding in a closet and facilitating Mark Foley's actions.<br><br>Well, America, I want other closeted staffers questioned. I want all entities investigating this matter to look at every other closeted staffer who may have contributed to this national disgrace.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>So.... Beginning Monday, and every weekday thereafter, I will be identifying the name of a closeted senior staffer in Congress</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> with the hopes that those investigating this matter will make sure to include them in their questioning. And I hope the press looks for them as well. It's time to rid the government of those that would harm us.<br><br>I will also highlight a past case from the site's history. I will ask you all to join me in sending emails to the ethics committee and media about these staffers who are putting the very stability of our government.<br><br>Some have said this is a purge of gays from the government. No my friends, this is NOT about gays. To suggest that there will be a purge of gays from the government is preposterous. Now, if you want to talk about a purge of anti-gay closet cases facilitating the hard Right's agenda... I say purge away.<br><br>It's about the hypocrisy. The know it. We know it. They want to change the focus. As the boss himself says:<br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/010238.php" target="top">www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/010238.php </a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>TPM: Hastert's Chief of Staff Is In A Heap of Trouble (Scott Palmer) <br> Remember that Kirk Fordham, one-time Chief of Staff to Mark Foley (R-FL), resigned Wednesday as Rep. Tom Reynolds' (R-NY) Chief of Staff and promptly announced that he had warned Hastert's staff about Foley's page problem as far back and 2003. Specifically, he said he repeatedly asked Hastert's Chief of Staff, Scott Palmer, to take action to deal with Foley. <br><br>Palmer promptly denied it.<br><br>Now, according to the Post, another congressional staffer has come forward to say that Fordham is telling the truth and Palmer is lying. <br><br>And the piece in the Post also touches on this topic we discussed back on October 1st. Jeff Trandahl, you'll remember, is the former House Clerk who, along with Rep. John Shimkus (R-IL), had the sit-down with Foley in late 2005 ...<br><br><br><br>Trandahl's departure came within days of his confrontation with Foley over e-mails that the congressman had sent a former page. House aides say the circumstances of Trandahl's exit were oddly quiet. The departure of a staff member of long standing, especially one as important as the House clerk, is usually marked with considerable fanfare, said Scott Lilly, a former Democratic staff director of the House Appropriations Committee. Debate is suspended in mid-afternoon to accommodate a stream of testimonials from lawmakers.<br><br>Trandahl's departure was marked by a one-minute salute from Shimkus and a brief insert into the Congressional Record.<br><br>"My one-hour Special Order changed to a five-minute Special Order, now to a one-minute," Shimkus said. "I just want to say thank you for the work you have done."<br><br>Lilly said: "He seemed to suddenly disappear in a puff of smoke."<br><br><br>Pretty clear a lotta this story has yet to unfold.<br><br>But I guess that's what next week is for. <br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=seemslikeadream@rigorousintuition>seemslikeadream</A> at: 10/7/06 11:38 pm<br></i>
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Re: I will be identifying the name of a closeted senior

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:44 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>It's time to rid the government of those that would harm us.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>And who's the judge and jury on that exactly?<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I will be identifying the name of a closeted senior

Postby 4911 » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:58 am

And who's the judge and jury on that exactly?<br><br>Hm, in the olden days, it was "The People" <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I will be identifying the name of a closeted senior

Postby sunny » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:53 am

A lot of allegations in this one:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-anderson/my-back-pages-expage-ha_b_31217.html">www.huffingtonpost.com/st...31217.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I will be identifying the name of a closeted senior

Postby pepsified thinker » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:01 am

My initial reaction was also one of anger that the closeted Republican leadership was outrageously hypocritical--and deserved to be blasted any how and any way. <br><br>But...I don't want to blast them <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>because</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> they're gay. As I read postings here, I'm glad to see that we all seem to take that as a given--this isn't about the fact that they're gay, it's about whether their public actions are somehow at odds with their private identities. That assumes that their private identities somehow require a certain course of action. I'm not as inclined to judge those caught between a private life of one sort, and a public life of another (in terms of gay Republicans) after reading this article--<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/washington/08culture.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5088&en=2e830058add9d369&ex=1317960000&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss">www.nytimes.com/2006/10/0...yt&emc=rss</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>It gives a deeper consideration of the current sitaution for gay Republicans of various degrees of openness. <br><br>Hastert is a bastard who has done quite a bit of harm to country and world through his playing of politics when he should have been more mindful of basic morality, case in point: he let Foley exploit pages. For that, hang him out to dry, BIG time. <br><br>I'm still absolutely opposed to the Republican party's anti-gay agenda, but is outing senior Repub. officials necessarily 'right'? and/or, does it actually further the anti-gay agenda of the more extreme elements of the GOP? What is the basis for going after them, other than their being gay <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>and</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Republican? There may be a legitimate basis, but what? <p></p><i></i>
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