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Re: St. John's Creepy Abbey

Postby alice » Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:46 pm

Chigger...<br>John Whitehead Parsons ? <br>He pops up when you google Parsons and Crowley. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: St. John's Creepy Abbey

Postby alice » Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:47 pm

correction I mean Jack <p></p><i></i>
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Re: St. John's Creepy Abbey

Postby chiggerbit » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:00 pm

Yes, that one. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: St. John's Creepy Abbey

Postby chiggerbit » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:03 pm

Anyway, alice, that stuff you posted sounds eerily like the Franklin/Boys Town conspiracy over here. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: St. John's Creepy Abbey

Postby chiggerbit » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:26 pm

Reading up on Parsons right now. I haven't followed the Crowley/Parsons threads very well in the past. What disturbs me about Crowley is a quote of his that Jeff posted in one of his blog topics:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best.<br><br>The animal should therefore be killed within the Circle, or the Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy cannot escape. An animal should be selected whose nature accords with that of the ceremony--thus, by sacrifcing a female lamb one would not obtain any appreciate quantity of the fierce energy useful to a Magician who was invoking Mars. In such a case a ram would be more suitable. And this ram should be virgin--the whole potential of its original total energy should not have been diminished in any way. For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I find it especially disturbing when reading it that it immediately brings to mind for me the Jacob Wetterling, Johnny Gosch kidnappings, and the allegegations of conspiracies involving goverment people, sex abuse and victims at places like Boys Town.<br><br>Maybe I will have to start another thread on this topic. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/28/06 12:33 pm<br></i>
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Re: St. John's Creepy Abbey

Postby chiggerbit » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:31 pm

Another POSSIBLY disturbing aspect of the kidnappings and the homes for children to consider. How many of these are Catholic? Are Catholic children being singled out? Or is it just simply the result of those children being the ones most accessible to the pedophiles? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/28/06 12:36 pm<br></i>
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Re: Mexico is haven for U.S. pedophile priests

Postby chiggerbit » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:35 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The lawsuit claims Colbert developed "unhealthy, psychologically dependent relationships" with male students "to recruit them for sex." It also names Girls and Boys Town as a defendant, claiming it knew - or should have known - what Colbert was doing and should have better supervised him. Although Boudreau is the only defendant, the lawsuit claims Colbert also molested other unnamed students.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>From an earlier post of snowlion's. I think it's important to keep in mind that not all pedophiles use force. Many of them "court" their victims, showering them with presents, special privileges, the better to put the victim in the right frame of mind. This dynamic is no less damaging than the ones involving force, though.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Where they're sent

Postby sarabite » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:11 pm

Yes, chiggerbit, indeed that is the very same place. And yep, I'm from New Mexico, the Land of Enchantment, or Entrapment, as locals sometimes refer to it. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>The Servants' motherhouse is located in a very pretty valley up in the Jemez Mountains, in a town previously famous for hot baths which Al Capone visited. So it was already known as a good place to hide out...<br><br>My family had a cabin up above, so we would drive through the town often each summer, and invariably pass one or two old guys walking along the road. My mother would whisper, "Pray for the poor priests." It was well known that there were drunks up there -- I even served for a couple who were lent out to local communities -- but it was a well-kept secret that there were pedophiles.<br><br>My conversation with Fr. Hoare was about whether Arthur Perrault, a notorious abuser who managed to disappear just before the scandals here broke, had ever been there. Hoare told me straight out that Perrault had only visited to "teach theology". Which he may have (though I shudder to think what kind of theology) -- I was told by one of his victims that he was brought up by Perrault and left to roam around the site.<br><br>But it came out that Perrault, like many of those at the Paraclete, had been sent there from the East because he was an abuser. Perhaps Hoare just hadn't checked the records.<br><br>It did not come as a surprise to me that the good father would fib, though. When I inquired about my own perp, they told me they had no records of him -- but they mispelled his name in the reply. I've been told by others that this is rather often done.<br><br>The main residential area has been sold apparently to a sister order, the Handmaidens of the Precious Blood. It looks deserted, but is still well-maintained. And the headquarters are still located right up the road.<br><br>There are still some old drunks whom no one will take living there I believe. <br><br>More about the Servants and abuse in NM can be found on my webpage, "Mysteries Remain in New Mexico" at<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/nmmystery.html">www.priestsofdarkness.com/nmmystery.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Now with a photo of Yowe, the Priest-Killing Kachina!<br><br>Jay<br>www.priestsofdarkness.com<br><br> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Where they're sent

Postby sarabite » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:20 pm

Ah, I see my article has already been posted. Sorry for the duplication.<br><br>Inflammatory? I should hope so! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Don't get me wrong. The founder of the Servants didn't want those guys around, and his idea of putting them on an island -- or keeping them there locked up in the monastery -- goes back to the long-standing tradition of the Church taking care of its own, good and bad.<br><br>The Church blames the psychiatrists for bad advice; the psychiatrists blamed the Church for not following it. Having known a nurse who worked up there, I believe the latter is more likely true.<br><br>The key factor, I believe, is the expense. I read somewhere that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>to train a priest costs more than a fighter pilot</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. With that much money involved, the Roman Church is determined to keep hold of every warm body with balls that it can.<br><br>However, there are enough married former priests out there eager and willing to do the job, that the priest shortage is of the Church's own making!<br><br>It seems to me there must be some other reason that the Church wants to remain a boys-only club. And I suspect it is not a very nice one.<br><br>Jay<br>www.theharrowing.com <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Where they're sent

Postby Fat Lady Singing » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:31 am

Sarabite: sorry, I meant no harm by using the word "inflammatory." Indeed, I think it *should* be inflammatory--there's much to get "burned up" about! I simply meant as opposed to the straight journalism of the little articles in Catholic World News. Please accept my apology.<br><br>At any rate, I, too lived in New Mexico, although it's been about 17 years or so since I moved away. I really don't want to say too much that would identify her, but my mother was a public servant who had direct knowledge of what went on at the monastery and around the state. She once told me a story that was incredible, and I'm wondering if you've heard of this. Unfortunately it's been many years and my memory is rather fuzzy...<br><br>She told me of a man, who I recall as being either a defrocked priest or a priest, who lived on a ranch in the middle of nowhere, I want to say in the western part of the state. He served as a "foster parent" for literally hundreds of boys, over a period of years. There were numerous allegations of sexual abuse against him, yet the State kept covering it up and allowing him to foster. My mother made it sound almost as if he'd abuse a boy for a few weeks, grow tired of him, send him back to whatever institution had previously been his home, and basically order up another boy who'd be delivered to him, pronto. Unfortunately, she wasn't in a position to take any legal action against him, and soon after she discovered the whole sordid story she left her position anyway, and moved away from New Mexico.<br><br>Does this story ring any bells with you or anyone else reading this? I'm sorry, I haven't had time to fully investigate your website and its resources--perhaps the information is already there, and perhaps you could point me in the right direction. It would be great to hear that the man was eventually arrested and put in prison. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Where they're sent

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:47 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>It would be great to hear that the man was eventually arrested and put in prison.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br><br>Fat chance. (Sorry, couldn't resist, Fat Lady Singing.) <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/28/06 10:48 pm<br></i>
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Re: Where they're sent

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:17 am

The Collegeville general area seems to be a bit of a Bermuda Triangle of missing persons.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.findjoshua.com/">www.findjoshua.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>WE NEED YOUR HELP!<br><br>We would greatly appreciate your help in finding our son. Josh has been missing from the campus of<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> St John's University in Collegeville, Minnesota</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> since November 9, 2002. He was last seen leaving a dorm room three minutes walking distance from his dorm, and never made it. He has not been seen since. Josh did not leave of his own free will. He was without his car, glasses or a coat warm enough for the weather. None of his credit cards have been used and there has been no contact with any friends or family members since that day. Please be on the look-out for Josh. Please let us know if you see him or if you know anything related to his disappearance which might help us find him.<br><br>America's Most Wanted<br>1-800-CRIME TV<br>1-800-274-6388<br><br>America's Most Wanted - Tip Form<br><br> Click Here for more ways to contact us!<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/30/06 10:19 pm<br></i>
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Re: Where they're sent

Postby alice » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:13 pm

Just watched a BBC Panorama documentary about paedophile priests ..can't find , as yet, a direct link but it is mentioned (about 3 items ) down on this site called "abuse-tracker"<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.ncrnews.org/abuse/">www.ncrnews.org/abuse/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>seems the current pope is responsible for the current strategy of moving priests about and covering up the abuse...he devised it before becoming pope. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: BBC Panorama

Postby alice » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:22 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/5389684.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/progr...389684.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: BBC Panorama

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:27 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>seems the current pope is responsible for the current strategy of moving priests about and covering up the abuse...he devised it before becoming pope.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>Don't know if you've paid any attention to that Conspiracy of Silence documentary or to DeCamp's material, but I just saw (was it his interview on the Conspiracy of Silence?) a couple of days ago DeCamp saying in this old interview that he went over and talked to the Rat about the sexual abuse, and the Rat told him something like he tried, but just couldn't get anything done. Unh-huh. Right. <p></p><i></i>
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