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Re: Top evangelical wrote: "No More Lonely Nights"

Postby robotilt » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:20 pm

I wonder if Pastor Ted was chosen to go down because he is so easily connectible to Bush? All part of the MSM's curious about face. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Top evangelical wrote: "No More Lonely Nights"

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:23 pm

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Re: Top evangelical wrote: "No More Lonely Nights"

Postby robotilt » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:30 pm

wonder why that was just a fantasy? Guess he wasn't really in the Republican inner circle... that or he liked 'em too old. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Top evangelical wrote: "No More Lonely Nights"

Postby robotilt » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:35 pm

Check out "Brother Russell's" review of <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Dog Training, Fly Fishing, And Sharing Christ In The 21st Century: Empowering Your Church To Build Community Through Shared Interests </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>by Ted Haggard before Amazon yanks it!<br> <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Training-Fishing-Sharing-Christ-Century/dp/0785265147/sr=8-1/qid=1162578283/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-8458324-4004026?ie=UTF8&s=books">www.amazon.com/Training-F...F8&s=books</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>pretty amusing.<br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Top evangelical wrote: "No More Lonely Nights"

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:46 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/">www.talkingpointsmemo.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>From the bizarre to the surreal. Last night Ted Haggard's successor sent an email to his congregation admitting that some of the gay former prostitute's allegations against Haggard are true. This morning the accuser failed a lie detector test administered on talk radio.<br><br>-- TPM Reader DK<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Top evangelical wrote: "No More Lonely Nights"

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:54 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4597552">www.denverpost.com/ci_4597552</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Ted Haggard's accuser failed a polygraph test early this morning about the truthfulness of his accusations that he had had a three-year homosexual affair with the influential Colorado Springs minister. <br><br>The test was given to Michael Jones, 49, an admitted male prostitute, who made the allegations on the Peter Boyles Show on radio station KHOW Thursday morning. <br><br>The shocking allegations were denied by Haggard, who told KUSA-9News he never took part in a homosexual affair and had always been faithful to his wife, with whom he has 5 children. <br><br>So Boyles invited Jones to take a polygraph test at 5 a.m. this morning. <br><br>The test administrator, John Kresnik, said Jones' score indicated "deceptions" in his answers. However, Kresnik said he doubted the accuracy of the test he administered because of the recent stress on Jones and his inability to eat or sleep, according to KHOW producer Greg Hollenback. <br><br>Kresnik suggested that Jones be re-tested early next week after he was rested.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 11/3/06 1:55 pm<br></i>
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Re: Top evangelical wrote: "No More Lonely Nights"

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:57 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4597813">www.denverpost.com/ci_4597813</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The New Life Church minister who has temporarily taken over for accused leader Ted Haggard stated in an e-mail to parishoners late Thursday night that Haggard confessed to some indiscretions alleged by a homosexual prostitute. <br><br>The e-mail from Pastor Ross Parsley, which went out at 11 p.m., stated, "It is important for you to know that he (Haggard) confessed to the overseers that some of the accusations against him are true. <br><br>"He has willingly and humbly submitted to the authority of the board of overseers, and will remain on administrative leave during the course of the investigation."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Top evangelical wrote: "No More Lonely Nights"

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:23 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Evangelical leader says he bought meth but 'never used it'</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) -- The Rev. Ted Haggard, who resigned as one of the nation's top evangelical leaders, admitted Friday he had contacted male prostitute Mike Jones for a massage and bought drugs from him.<br><br>Haggard said he never had sex with Jones and never used the methamphetamine drug he bought.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/haggard.allegations/index.html">more</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Entire White House Due In Colorado Today

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:10 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Nov 3</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>DENVER -- For a little while Friday, Colorado will be the center of political power.<br><br>Both Vice President Dick Cheney and President George W. Bush will be in Colorado later in the day.<br><br>Cheney was in Colorado Springs to meet with Fort Carson troops and support Republican candidates.<br><br>Bush is due in Friday evening as he prepares to deliver his national radio address Saturday, then travels to Greeley to rally Republicans in a final push to Tuesday's election. Bush will be joined by Marilyn Musgrave, the Republican candidate for the 4th District, and Bob Beauprez, the Republican candidate for governor.<br><br>On Wednesday, former President Bill Clinton was in town to stump for Ed Perlmutter.<br><br>At a hangar at Fort Carson, Cheney rallied the troops. About 4,000 troops from Fort Carson are returning home from Iraq this week; 3,800 others remain there.<br><br>"You can be certain of this: The president will not relent in tracking the enemies of the United States with every legitimate tool at his command," Cheney told a crowd of 6,000 people.<br><br>"This is not a war that we can win on the defensive. Our only option against these enemies is to monitor them, to find them, to fight them and to destroy them," he said.<br><br>Later in the day, at a resort, Cheney was speaking at a rally for Colorado Republicans.<br><br>...<br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/10233798/detail.html">www.thedenverchannel.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Entire White House Due In Colorado Today

Postby rain » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:31 pm

just a bit on Beauprez -<br><br>FBI asked to look into Beauprez ad<br>By Chris Frates <br>Denver Post Staff Writer<br>Article Last Updated:10/19/2006 08:07:47 AM MDT<br><br><br>Gubernatorial hopefuls Bob Beauprez, left, and Bill Ritter, right, debate on KOA radio host Mike Rosen's show Wednesday morning. (Post / RJ Sangosti )The Colorado Bureau of Investigation asked the FBI on Wednesday to join its probe of an attack ad by Republican gubernatorial candidate Bob Beauprez, saying information about the ad's subject was accessed using a restricted federal database. <br><br>A statement from the CBI did not say who accessed the National Crime Information Center computer database or from where. It simply confirmed that someone had used that database to search the name of a man who later turned up in the Beauprez ad. <br><br>The Beauprez campaign has denied any wrongdoing. But the accuracy of the ad challenging the record of former Denver District Attorney Bill Ritter has been difficult for anyone to independently verify. Beauprez has refused to reveal his campaign's source for the information. <br><br>So, with absentee ballots already being delivered and early voting starting Monday in Colorado, voters are left with uneasy questions as they choose their next governor. <br><br>Did a person plea-bargained by Democrat Ritter go on to commit a sex crime against a child in California, as the ad claims? <br><br>Did Beauprez or someone connected to his campaign commit a crime in accessing the NCIC database to get dirt on his political opponent? <br><br>The CBI launched the investigation last week at the request of Ritter, who said he could neither verify nor dispute Beauprez's allegations through public court files. Gov. Bill Owens, a Beauprez supporter, then asked the agency to expedite its review. <br><br>The ad says Ritter plea-bargained a case against illegal immigrant and alleged heroin dealer Carlos Estrada Medina, who was given probation and later arrested on suspicion of sexual abuse on a child. <br><br>But Medina's name does not appear on court documents in Denver or California - where Beauprez's campaign said he was charged under aliases. <br><br>In its announcement Wednesday, the CBI said Medina used the alias Walter Noel Ramo, which is the name of a man charged in Denver in 2001 when Ritter was DA. <br><br>"The CBI has thoroughly reviewed and researched the law- enforcement databases and determined that the information regarding Carlos Estrada Medina (also known as Walter Noel Ramo) was obtained by accessing the federal crime-information system known as NCIC," CBI Director Robert Cantwell said in a statement. <br><br>Cantwell said the FBI has been called in to help complete what it characterized as a criminal probe. <br><br>According to the Denver court files, Ramo was given probation after plea-bargaining a charge of heroin possession into trespassing on agricultural land with the intent to commit a felony. <br><br>That plea, which Ritter's office used in 152 cases, was mainly designed, according to defense attorneys, to allow legal immigrants to avoid deportation. <br><br>Ritter insists the connection between Ramo and Medina could only be made using the NCIC. While that database largely consists of otherwise public documents, access is restricted by federal law. Law enforcement officers, federal workers and, in limited cases, members of Congress can request access to the database. <br><br>Members of Congress can access it only if the subject of a criminal record requests their help in researching their own record, according to the NCIC guide. <br><br>Among the nonpublic things one can learn from the NCIC: Whether secret arrest warrants exist for an individual, all aliases used by a person such as Ramo and all the charges that may connect to a single set of fingerprints. <br><br>But while use of the NCIC is audited by the FBI, and agencies or individuals can face civil or possibly criminal penalties for unauthorized use, many online companies promise NCIC access. <br><br>John Marshall, Beauprez's campaign manager, said: "The campaign received this information from what we believe to be a credible and a lawful source, and we verified it through what we believe is lawful means." <br><br>Ritter spokesman Evan Dreyer said the news "appears to confirm our suspicions that the federal database was illegally accessed."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4511706">www.denverpost.com/ci_4511706</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>and<br><br>FBI investigates Beauprez campaign <br>Written by Staff <br>Wednesday, 18 October 2006 <br>The investigation into Republican Bob Beauprez's campaign use of restricted federal criminal database data has broadened to include the FBI, according to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation. <br><br>A statement from CBI Direct Robert Cantwell says the FBI was brought into the investigation, which CBI says is being pursued expeditiously. Cantwell also says the agency will be mum and won't provide further updates as the investigation continues. <br>"The Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) was directed by the Governor's<br>office to determine whether the Colorado Crime Information Center (CCIC) or<br>the National Crime Information Center (NCIC) was compromised in the<br>dissemination of confidential law enforcement records. The CBI has<br>thoroughly reviewed and researched the law enforcement databases and<br>determined that the information regarding Carlos Estrada Medina (also known<br>as: Walter Noel Ramo) was obtained by accessing the federal crime<br>information system known as NCIC. The CBI held a meeting this morning with<br>federal and state law enforcement officials. Because this is a federally<br>controlled and regulated system, CBI has requested the assistance of the FBI<br>to further pursue the investigation. The FBI and CBI will be working<br>jointly to complete the investigation.<br>"The state and federal agencies involved understand the time-sensitive<br>nature of this incident and are proceeding as expeditiously as possible to<br>resolve it. As in any criminal investigation, it may be necessary to<br>conduct searches, further interviews, and forensic analysis of evidence.<br>These procedures take time. It is most important that the investigation be<br>done thoroughly to reach a correct result with evidence that meets all legal<br>requirements. Therefore, it is not possible to know at this point how soon<br>the investigation may be completed.<br>"During the course of this continuing criminal investigation, it will not be<br>possible to provide updates as to the case status."<br> <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://northdenvernews.com/content/view/537/2/">northdenvernews.com/content/view/537/2/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Entire White House Due In Colorado Today

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:11 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://time.blogs.com/daily_dish/2006/11/the_haggard_int.html">time.blogs.com/daily_dish...d_int.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Poor wife and kids. I can even feel sorry for him....well, except when he lies.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://wm.kusa.gannett.edgestreams.net/news/1162580559552-11-03-06-haggard-interview-.wmv">wm.kusa.gannett.edgestrea...rview-.wmv</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 11/3/06 9:20 pm<br></i>
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Re: Entire White House Due In Colorado Today

Postby sunny » Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:26 am

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Re: Entire White House Due In Colorado Today

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:46 pm

I'll tell you what--that guy can lie with about the straightest face I have ever seen. And you know it's a lie because he has since admitted part of the truth following his first lie. Watch that first (admitted) lie, and you can see that's the same face as the next set of lies. He's good! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Top evangelical wrote: "No More Lonely Nights"

Postby MASONIC PLOT » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:02 pm

Haggard just confessed on CNN to "having a life long sexual problem" lol<br><br>Now I am waiting for him to say he was molested by a priest. Its coming, I feel it. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Top evangelical wrote: "No More Lonely Nights"

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:07 pm

Hey, this is interesting:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15542323/">www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15542323/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"....<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>But he also prioritized anti-poverty work and environmental activism. The association recently started a project called “Re:Vision,” meant to advance a “broad biblical agenda” to include improving health care and ending racism.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>“He’s helped to build up the organization,” said John Green, senior fellow at the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. “He’s also taken risks.”<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>One of Haggard’s biggest leaps came when he said he believed global warming was occurring, and that stopping climate change should be an evangelical priority.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>His position drew a rebuke from some prominent evangelicals including James Dobson of Focus on the Family, leading Haggard to keep the association out of at least one religious environmental protection campaign this year. The NAE is an umbrella group that claims a membership of 45,000 conservative yet very diverse churches that usually act independently.<br><br>“It created some disgruntlement among certain evangelicals who thought that any attention diverted away from abortion was moving in the wrong direction,” said Corwin Smidt, a political scientist at Calvin College who researches evangelicals....."<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 11/5/06 1:09 pm<br></i>
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