Predictions from NWO (allegedly)

by **Inanna** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:59 pm

Well, I just got done reading the most fascinating and stomach turning thread I have ever come across. I know there was a thread on Gaia Man here from GLP, and many don't think he is legit. There is another thread from someone who claims to be a part of "TPTB." Usually these type of threads are met with a lot of nay saying in that forum, but not this one. I must confess, reading it gave/gives me the chills. I realize I am naive, but there is something about this thread that rings true, only I wish it were not so. It's a long thread, but the guy is articulate and actually what he says makes sense, from a population reduction perspective. I feel kind of queasy. If you'd like to read it, here it is. <a href="http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=1&topic=3&message=156038&mpage=1&showdate=9/21/05">www.godlikeproductions.co...te=9/21/05</a>

by **Inanna** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:43 am

AC 535 is the poster in question. He posts more at the end. He also goes into "global warming." Saying there are two more hurricanes after Rita and the last one will be the biggest and the location is TBD. I know it's long, but if you just look for his posts, then you can scroll through the rest and decide if it's worth taking your time to read the whole thread.

by **Avalon** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:45 am

How very special GLP readers must be, to have someone like that whisper all the secrets in their ears that the rest of the sheeple wouldn't appreciate. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"> If you're familiar with the feelings most posters at GLP have for Phil Plait and his Bad Astronomy board, you know the sentiments felt seem to be about the same for most of the BA regulars. BA and GLP often are locked in a death grip, each faction disgusted with each other, but unable to let go of their perverse attraction. It's rather interesting to check the archives at the BA forum occasionally, to see where BA regulars admit going over to GLP to troll. I'm not saying that this person is a BA troll. But with the gullibility and paranoia that is the forum culture there, it's got to be very tempting to never give a sucker an even break.

by **Inanna** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:00 am

I am not aware of trolling and this guy sounds legit. Why would someone take all that time and write all that stuff just to troll? Seems like a major waste of time to me. I guess I am just naive. Did you read his posts?

by **thumper** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:09 am

I didn't read the whole thread, but one thing that stood out was the idea of how urbanization was something 'inevitable', especially with the encroachment of technology. This has interested me for a while, and I'm glad to report that it is not the case. In fact, in our so-called 'capitalist' society, they have socially engineered the rural economy and herded us into cities by subsidizing big agro business. The Harry Browfield show talks about this constantly, and I think there's even a specific UN directive that's called for it. It's even been shown that after years of trying to 'mechanize' the process of farming, it's found that the most efficient way to grow food, such as dairy products, is to let cows graze in grass fields and to drink raw milk. Compare this to the comparative misery of animals living in cells, injected with growth hormone, and fed on grain, who in the end deliver an inferior, albeit more plentiful product. Nature has a funny way of working out when we don't mess with it.

by **Inanna** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:18 am

Did you read the last couple of pages? What about it made you think it was not legit?

by **Avalon** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:46 am

Why does anyone write anything? Some authors get paid. But trolls do it for the attention, which is a major Internet currency. There are plenty of people there at GLP (or other forums) who will take anything someone says at its face value. For trolls that is shooting fish in a barrel. It's a better hobby than mugging old ladies on the street, but not by much. Start with the basic premise, Inanna. Why do you think someone who had that much power and responsibility over the fate of Western Civilization would choose to tell all the secrets to an Internet forum like GLP, which lives on a whole lot of noise and very little clear signal?

by **Inanna** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:13 am

It just seemed plausible and everyone else on there thought so too, and they usually don't buy into everything. If you read the posts, you'd see what I mean. Or maybe I've been spending too much time on Internet boards. Or maybe I'm just nuts.

by **thumper** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:30 am

but that thread is incredibly dense for me. I remember when I had boundless enthusiasm to read most anything conspiracy related, but I guess that's waned over time (it's been two years since I 'woke up'). Maybe that's why I was all about one liners over at iidb <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":b"> It seems to me that the gist of the thread is basically about humanity's tendency towards self-destruction, urbanization, and running out of energy resources, etc.? Social entropy? Maybe if you could synthesize one of their points for us, and we could digest that or something. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> ps. does anyone else find that this board goes offline quite a bit??

by **thumper** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:32 am

I don't know what all those acronyms stand for <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":b"> maybe that's why i quit so soon.

by **thumper** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:38 am

I think the person is working off a few faulty premises, such as Peak Oil, and assuming that such things as "National Interests" are still the polarizing force in the world, when they are not, and trying to explain the actions of nations in that context. The overall tone seems to suggest that they are pushing the idea that the NWO is totally inevitable... sounds like disinfo to me.

by **wintler** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:17 am

Credible? Not if i'm to sleep tonight. Coherent & internally consistent, anyway. Don't personally find it so improbable that someone in his (postulated) circimstances would want to 'leak'. Makes curious error in global population, saying 4+ billion, when we're well past 6.5billion. The coyness thing smells, "i've said too much..", "may or may not post again..."(invariably does). Falsifiable? Should be within a few weeks, given his predictions. Disinfo? Could well be. For believers would have to have a depoliticising/alienating effect (good for 'tptb'), but would ultra-radicalise some. (imagines a crazed netizen gunning down.. who?). Don't want to believe it, but then have friends in california.. should i at least send it to them & let them decide? Some serious effort gone into it, eg the many ordered replies to many posters. Uniformly polite, which is hard to maintain when abused. Am suspicious that it explicitly confirms several varied 'conspiracy theories' (alien contact, a tptb conspiracy, pole shift, posse comitas) , which will make it seductive to many fringe dwellers. 535 sews them all together.

by **Inanna** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:07 am

Went over to the BA site and now I think it's someone who either has a lot of time on his hands and is just messing around, or maybe who he says he is. That BA site is a real hoot. I think I may have been "fooled" because he is so articulate against the backdrop of GLP. And the other poster who goes on and on about BUSH makes me think he's part of the hoax, as the BA site used language like woowoo (what is that?) and AC 535 said he has to get paid. In short, I think it's an elaborate hoax. I guess I don't understand why people would take the time to do all that.

by **Avalon** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:07 am

"Woo-woo" is a condescending, disparaging term often used by those at Bad Astronomy and other watering holes of self-styled "skeptics." It refers to the sort of "strange but true" (or at least strange) material that when told to someone might cause their eyes to widen and them to exclaim, "Woooooo..." Here's an example of something from that thread that smells funny: "Who I am is not something that is easily put into words. I come from ancient family. Several generations past, my ancestors decided to become "scouts" for lack of a better word, in order to find the few who might be able to evolve ( this is in part genetic, but only in part. ) and inspire them to do so in lieu of what is coming. In order to do this, we had to blend into society and my family did what had to be done in order to accomplish this. Messages were left in everything from our ancient texts to genetic coding. Repetition throughout the eons, logic, and a fine tuned capacity to recognize instinct are the decoding methods. Read your Bible from Genesis to Revelation, or any other religious texts you might prefer. Read it as you would a scientist. Note the repetition of events even though names have changed. Note the similarities between "mystical" and geological events. This is but one way we have left messages to ourselves. This has been a recurring scenario and the imprint is so strong in the cumulative consciousness that more prophets are born with every turn of the wheel. This imprint can be honed upon using various scientific techniques which are far more accurate than symbols interpreted in the minds of the prophets which are oft flavoured with their own perceptions. What have we done ? Everything that can be done. This is far too big to quell. Humans could have made it easier with their decisions, but they have not, so we do as much as we can." Claims to not be human. There's a big red flag for you right there. "But in general, take my advice, when you meet anything that is going to be Human and isn’t yet, or used to be Human once and isn’t now, or ought to be Human and isn’t, you keep your eyes on it and feel for your hatchet.”—Mr. Beaver in The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe We all come from ancient families, most of us just don't know which. "Several generations," then seemingly following that is "eons," the longest division of geological time. Supposedly leaving messages to others of their kind in religious texts such as the Bible. You've got inconsistency of scale, followed by incorrect usage, followed by grandiosity. "Read your Bible." That "your" to separate the speaker from mere humans such as yourself is a prime marker for received alien-speak. Aliens and channelled beings are always talking about "one of your years" or something costing "ten of your dollars," no matter where they say they come from or what they say they are. Strange how everybody in the Otherworld has the same verbal tic. There are people who really get off on trying to see how much bullshit they can spin in a forum before someone wises up. It's a peculiar kind of creativity for them, but also reinforces for them how everybody is stupider than they are.

by **Rambuncle** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:11 pm

avalon - You are quoting "harbringer" I believe. He joined the thread, and is someone separate from what AC 535 was saying. He is claiming something beyond what AC 535 was saying and has no connection as far as I know to AC 535. I read the whole thread earlier. I was then reading a post by Digby (about Andrew Sullivan's referencing an article that basically said the Bush Administration is fascist) that linked to the same topic from Drum. In Drum's comments, someone brought up Rev. Moon. That got me thinking. Let's assume the AC 535 believes what he is saying. How well does this fit into Rev. Moon's plans? I don't know as much as I probably should, just what I've come across here and other places (no in-depth looking or searching), but I wonder how AC 535's observations would fit into a Unification Church plan. Moon does have his hands in the US government and others (I believe North Korea has been mentioned, can't remember other specifics). Didn't Moon or the Church or a Moon associate recently purchase a large amount of land above a large freshwater aquifier in South America? Just something to think about. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things - Terry Pratchett, Jingo

Predictions from NWO (allegedly)

Predictions from NWO (allegedly)

one more thing

WHY do you trust what anonymous cowards say at GLP?

I don't know what BA is

disagree with a few things

So thumper

trolls

I don't know

sorry TT!

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i spotted something else

who buys fiction any more?

OK

smells funny

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