Henry Kissinger and the Holy Grail?

[israelirealities]

For some reason this thread only, appears in a format I cannot read, the lines never end, and pour out of the screen for miles. des anyone know how to solve it ?<br><br>As for all those bloodline theories, it used to scare me now, but I can contain it now, its a stage.<br>When I first read those Illuminati descriptions, I was both relieved and disgusted. I was thankful for the validation of a lot stuff I knew but didn't have a name for, especially the methods, MC, the extent and the complex structures and connections. I have to confess that for a while I was very disturbed by the fact that my great grandfather was sponsored by Rothchild, to study agriculture in France for a few months (he came from Palestine to study and went back to apply the know how in his village). I felt stunned, and it had a false sense of "i knew it, this is where this curse begins"...it held on for a few months, and then I started reading more and realized that practically all the JEws are mentioned, and even Non Jews are considered Jews for the purpose. And so Rothchild perhaps is just another name. Anyway, the product of this period in my life was a short novel, fiction, about this visit of my relative to France of the 1880's where he sees for the first time the riches of Europe. And the twist was that at the same time his sponsor also hosts a Brittish Occultist who came in order to sabotage Luis Pasteur's lab, because he experimented on animals. Rothchild thus becomes acquainted with the Occult and from this point...it was a bit wild...with cults, and all that good stuff. <br>If anyone knows a publisher, I'll be happy to send it. (nobody will touch this in Israel, for Rothchild is considered a semi saint, and his nick name here was "the famous generous man" (actualy, THe philantropist). So I am not sure he is the devil incarnate now, but the possibility that he was actually a mysterious evil person, intrigues me.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Rigorous Intuition]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>For some reason this thread only, appears in a format I cannot read, the lines never end, and pour out of the screen for miles. des anyone know how to solve it ?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>I fixed the scrolling problem by deleting a string of periods in a post. <p></p><i></i>

[Starman]

Thanks for the Heads-Up info, all.<br>SW-- I feel for you, really. What an absolutely horrid thing to have one's reality and most private thoughts and feelings violated by someone's past abuses. At times, it's very difficult to feel any mercy for those who have created whole generations of victims.<br><br>BTW: Israelirealities --<br>Welcome to the forum -- Your voice and views are well-appreciated.<br><br>I appreciate this forum a lot -- but at times the crushing weight of realizing the scope of the incidental conspiracy and collusion of treason and betrayal by which the people of this nation, and world, are being sold-out is SO damn overwhelming, that I'm just at a loss. <br><br>Some time ago, while responding to an RI forum 'challenge' (perhaps by Proldic?) to discover the identity of a Rothschilde heir under 50 yrs. age, that I stumbled on what appeared to be a testimony-eyewitness document by the victim of a Rothschidle elder's systemic molestation, mind-control and enslavement -- truly monstrous crimes that are SO typical of much of what has been revealed about how the self-styled global elite commit human rights abuses with near total immunity from any and all laws. I almost posted it, but then decided it was sort-of incidental to the original point, and anyway was hardly atypical of the behavior of the whole 'noble' class of uber-powerful politicos and their robber-baron lords.<br><br>Anyway, the following link provides some more detailed info on these global elite networks and how they are loosely organized in the exercise of influence and power <br>-- nothing new to any dedicated readers on this forum but adding to the ongoing discussion of foul deeds and horrible crimes and systemic abuses committed by the status-quo:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.planetquo.com/Hidden-Institutions-Exposed">www.planetquo.com/Hidden-...ns-Exposed</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>--excerpt--<br>Introduction <br>The purpose of the Project for the Exposure of Hidden Institutions (PEHI) is to put together the entire spectrum of hidden organisations and secret societies. Most of you who visit this site have probably heard of the more well-known 'secret societies' like the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bohemian Grove, and the Skull & Bones student society. Two other well known 'secret societies' are Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission. The thing is, when you really research these institutes you find that members often disagree with each other, there's considerable infighting, and most members don't seem to be privy to a lot of information from the black world. This is the reason I always wondered how people went from the above organizations straight to the very undefined concept of the 'Illuminati'. Of course, I can see something very strange is going on. For some reason it's possible to suppress information about humanities past, the UFO phenomenon, the supernatural, high profile assassinations, or the true cause of many terrorist attacks. Rather than focusing on one tiny subject, PEHI will attempt to answer how all the above is possible and which persons and institutes are responsible for it. <br><br>This site will be fundamentally different than most. We don't need another rewrite combined with another religiously biased opinion, which doesn't stroke with any of the evidence. We need names of institutions, names of members, and as much background information about both as possible. We need organised digital membership lists in which all this information is available for any purpose at any time. Biographies should be included and must be updated continually in all of these lists as new information becomes available. I can already guarantee you that when this is done on all the globalist societies, one by one, we will see patterns in the leadership and we can pick out those people that need to be investigated still further. If there are any 'puppet masters', this is the only way to pick them out and to have a rock solid foundation of research no one can dispute. <br><br>*****<br>This could be a useful resource, for those with the energy and incliniation to keep up with research on institutions with a covert global agenda.<br><br>It's hard sometimes to stay optimistic and grounded, but try we must.<br>Keep oN!<br>Starman<br>(I know this is a lame comment, but I'm struggling -- donations of good energy thoughts appreciated!)<br><br>Uhm-- Thanks for fixing the format, Jeff! <p></p><i></i>

[slimmouse]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>If anyone knows a publisher, I'll be happy to send it. (nobody will touch this in Israel, for Rothchild is considered a semi saint, and his nick name here was "the famous generous man" (actualy, THe philantropist). So I am not sure he is the devil incarnate now, but the possibility that he was actually a mysterious evil person, intrigues me.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br> The possibility ? <br><br> Which kind philanphropist sends his "own people" ( if the Rothschilds arent satanists, then neither is Bush - Forget the Jewish and Christian tags here ) to an area of the world where they firstly have to ethnically cleanse their "safe haven" of the best part of 3/4 of a million Arabs , thus creating a sworn enemy from day one( good for arms sales, and bank loans to supporting govnts either side of the cold war), having invoked the "Gods promised land" clause of the good book ?<br><br> Who wrote the book ? Whats the betting on the descendants of the same ?<br><br> And therefore, speaking of betting, whats the betting that if all major oil finds had been in China, or say Australia, we would have been spoonfed a completely different version of History - The other great Bible caveat, in which the Torah Jews solemnly vowed to God that they would never return to the promised land, and particularly under force ?<br><br> You are entitled to make your own observations on the State of Israel, but from where Im sat, all Ive seen is 60 years of death, misery, war, and all the associated benefits of such activities for the usual suspects, and all the usual misery, psychological trauma, land theft, and the rest of it for everyone else.<br><br> But then again, Im just a conspiracy theorist<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/grin.gif ALT=" >D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 9/27/05 3:52 pm<br></i>

[Qutb]

Thanks for that planetquo link, Starman. It looks interesting so far. A site which explores the global elite and which is not just the usual repetition of old rumours, canards and disinfo would be most welcome, though I'm not ready to say that that site is it until I've looked a little more closely at it.<br><br>Oh, and I hereby donate some good energy to ya! <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:black;font-family:century gothic;font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i></i>

[bamabecky]

Just the other day I was listening to a David Icke interview about the Illuminati. And today I saw a thread here where somebody disparaged Icke. So I'm curious what everybody here thinks of David Icke. What he was saying was FACINATING. He spoke of the City of London and the Temple Bar. He said the set up the laws, lawyers, and courts to keep people from doing what they don't want them doing, but the laws, lawyers and courts don't apply to them. So if indeed they are into Satanism, abusing people and the like, then that explains why the Illuminati never got caught for it. Ok, I'll step back now and let you guys tell me about David Icke.<br>Bama <p></p><i></i>

[slimmouse]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Ok, I'll step back now and let you guys tell me about David Icke.<br>Bama<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br> Heres my best advice Becky. <br><br> You sound as if you like what youve heard so far, so why not follow your instincts. Why not buy one of his books and make your OWN mind up ? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Why not look at what hes saying with the utmost care, and then check out the validity of his assertions for yourself via other sources ?<br><br> Took me 3.5 years of walking on the wild side, before I finally picked up a work of his, due to all the bad stuff Id heard.<br><br> And within 3 chapters, Id been taught a very valuable lesson. MAKE YOUR OWN MIND UP.<br><br> From a selfish point of view, how about his latest ? I havent read that yet, and would like a review <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Col Quisp]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> I'm not an agent with ATF. I am an Investigative Assistant. That's a fancy word for clerical support.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>How does your remote viewing skill fit in to this job? I'm not throwing stones, but I *am* skeptical.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[john darmy]

I absolutely love the guy. Some people ridicule him because he talks about the planet being controlled by an alien race of shape-shifting reptiles, but I don't let that bother me. I'm keeping an open mind about that. Evidence for an alien presence on Earth goes way back and is depicted on cave drawings. Supposedly, aliens came here and mated with Earth women, resulting in the sudden and inexplicable advancement of the human race known as the missing link. Part of the reason why the alien presence is not widely known is that there is a concerted effort to ridicule people like David Icke and anyone else who dares to talk about it. Just like the CIA, in an internal memo made public years ago, encouraged journalists to ridicule Warren Commission critics. Well, if Lee Harvey Oswald was really the lone assassin, what's the big deal? Why undertake a disinformation campaign unless there's something to cover up? <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

<br><br> "I strongly believe that a small Jewish clique which has contempt for the mass of Jewish people worked with non-Jews to create the First World War, the Russian Revolution, and the Second World War. This Jewish/non-Jewish Elite used the First World War to secure the Balfour Declaration and the principle of the Jewish State of Israel (for which, given the genetic history of most Jewish people, there is absolutely no justification on historical grounds or any other). They then dominated the Versailles Peace Conference and created the circumstances which made the Second World War inevitable. They financed Hitler to power in 1933 and made the funds available for his rearmament."<br><br>Icke, p. 130 "and the truth shall set you free".<br><br>Aliens = Rothschilds, the Jewish clique he refers to here. I guess this is a LITTLE better..not ALL Jews, just a clique of Jews who have some gentile buddies.<br><br>My despair grows. <p></p><i></i>

[Qutb]

I can't understand how otherwise intelligent people can fall for the stuff Icke is peddling. Yes, you can keep an open mind, and sometimes a mind so open that your brain falls out. <br><br>Much like what is the case with the Larouchies, there is some legitimate info thrown into the mix, but this info is always available from other and more credible sources. <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:black;font-family:century gothic;font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i></i>

[Col Quisp]

'nuff said. <p></p><i></i>

[israelirealities]

Slimmouse if you read any of my posts before this (rather obscure) one, you'd have known by now that my take on the state of Israel is probably worse than yours, AND I am a resident and citizen born and raised in Israel. Plus, I think the ZIonist movement is bad and wrong for all parties involved (never thought about the oil timing...i"ll give it another thought). <br>HAving said that, I find a lot of those generalizations and name dropping difficult to relate to. David Icke style stuff, sorry i haven't reached the ability to accept theories about reptilians and what not. Who knows, maybe its so, I just don't KNOW, so I said there is a possibility that the same ROthchild who was and is reverred here was a freak.<br>If you also read other posts, I mentioned that Israelis are generally uninformed about those theories, about all this NWO etc., and so my position on it was that if knowledge is accessible, people might overthrow those corrupt rich people, and change matters. Sitting in your place, and just saying all that, will not make any difference. On the contrary, if I weren't versed and also to some extent immune to racist comments, I would interpret you as "anti semitic" and throw the baby with the water, as they say here. I am listening to you, and at the same time thinking how do you make people here, in the land of ethnic cleansing, see more about their leaders, be less gullible and willing to enslave themselves...<br>I then throught that a modest beginning would be to present an alternative narrative about ROthchild, in a manner of fiction, and that's how I wrote that short novel. <br>People like you though, must understand that change will not come by putting all the people together in your mind as "bad". You have the responsibility to empower and enlighten the ignorant, because eventually the Jews are the only ones who can clean their own back yard. Ethnically cleansing the Jews (as something you do in your mind, when you collectively treat a group as "one and the same") will probably leave those rich guys you hate, even richer.<br>The process I am seeing or experiencing here, in ISrael, is the total de humanization and de personalization, I mean like the imperative to "kill your heart". The level of pressure is immense, and I am trying to find out first how it happens and then resist it. Although today I woke up from a nightmare, and an inner voice told me that I lost my heart as well. <br>Losing your heart happens when you experience joy at the pain of another, who you preceive as someone who caused you a lot of damage. I swore not to reach that state, but only a year now in Israel, and I am there.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[bamabecky]

Slimmouse - Thank You! I have always followed my heart and mind independently. I do however look for sign post along the way, as I did with LaRouche. And those "directions" really helped. I have listened to two David Icke radio interviews and his information intrigues me. I have ordered a couple of his books and look forward to those. I will admit that the reptile stuff was weird, but the illusionary subconscience stuff struck a chord. I had already read about shamanism, knew about the concoction he drank and had heard about people have these "experiences of oneness". Bottom line I want to hear more about what he has to say, especially about the Illuminati.<br><br>I thank "one and all" for your feedback. I have a terriable spelling problem. If you can look over that, you might not mind having me around. The spell checker here always times out on me. Bummer!<br>Bama <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

Spell check here never works for me, either. Who cares? I hate it when a person has to back up their argument with an attack on a person's spelling. If your meaning can be figured out, what's the difference? <p></p><i></i>