by blanc » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:40 am
Dreams; no such thing appears on my screen.<br><br>I don't know if any of the info/experience I have would help you, how to select the bits that might, how to talk to you without compromising my relationship with the survivors and/or their personal safety.<br><br>Here's a synopsis of how I got here. (name and place name changes)<br><br>I support Barbara and Sally who were abused in childhood. I didn't choose this, I was thrown into it because of circs. They became ill when memories kicked in about 6 years ago. I don't suppose I need to justify this here, but for the record, their detailed description of specific scenarios tallied precisely, when they were several thousand miles apart and not in contact. Also many odd/bizarre/disturbing events from the abuse period fell in to place. One such was a one off flash back I had had at the time, which I then could not recognise or explain and told to no-one. This tallied also. So as they started to recall there were many 'how could I have been so blind' times. I went along the police report path. I was baffled and incredulous at the blatant stifling and cover up, and kept taking it higher. At same time, because via old friend, ritual abuse came into my vocabulary, I started researching, came across the paperclip/mkultra/mc/organised crime/ historic cases info and along another orute the what happens to the brain in trauma info, and on a third route the psychotropic drug info especially memory blocking and muscle paralysing ones. <br><br>barbara was briefly sectioned in the country she was in, then disappeared. A year of pure hell followed in which my pension plan went down the pan and I found out how the families of hostages feel day by day and night by night. Eventually, with help, she was found and came to the uk.<br><br>the national health service is crap and the psych services the poor relation. She wandered the country, turning up in police stations and emergency rooms at intervals, the people who brought her there and me trying to get her help. Eventually she lighted upon an emergency room where the resident psych and his consultant had the wit and decency, and I suppose the resources, to recognise that she was desperately ill. She was sectioned. I gave them a letter outlining the facts. <br><br>By then I had learned of the minefield psychs tread through if they try to admit the existence of ritual abuse trauma at the basis of a patients illness, and settled for a nod and a wink type understanding of what I was going on about. a different diagnosis triggered a whole lot more help.<br><br>By this time I had joined a supporters group. This mainly helps in comparing experiences about symptoms and their underlying causes, and experiences of police cover ups. <br><br>example. biao flagged up a few months ago a crisis linked to weird piece of sadism around menstrual blood. finding that this is common in survivor accounts tells us a. that it is fairly clearly real experience and b. that the perps link in some way. a different example - I was introduced to the carer of Lilly who was abused in Wretchdale around 10 years prior to Barbara, and subsequently followed in her home town by vehicles like those used in barbaras case. I learnt by chance that Lilly had suffered an unusual, very bizarre torture, which was pretty identical to one performed on Sally at age 7 , same town.<br><br>I have other examples, that is enough to give you an idea.<br><br>I concluded from the nature of these tortures that a purpose is to fuck up every aspect of a person's life, so that no normal activity, words or phrases are abuse free, all are subconsciously linked to abuse. this makes it difficult to live outside the controlling abusing group, makes the survivor incompetent or ill and difficult to live with.<br><br>2 specific suicide methods were programmed in to both Barbara and sally. Neither of them the exit of choice.<br><br>Sally was told 'if you remember you will go mad, everyone will think you are schizophrenic' There is nothing haphazard about this process. images and scenarios are chozen to make the survivor who tells seem as wacky as possible.<br><br>Once I had exhausted the search for justice route and been labelled a fantasist, and the lie told to support that hypothesis trotted out at ministerial level, I began to dream about establishing a database. With another group member I started trying to find links in survivor accounts, instead of waiting for them to hit me in the teeth, and research public records for info on alleged perps. <br><br>I am quite focused on a second account. That of Helen, who was taken in or sold on to a group early teens, after an abusive childhood in the house of a pimp and prostitute. Her story would make a stone statue weep. Because of the identity of 2 of the perps and their real life jobs, and because of part of what is done at their 'parties', I suspect medical experimentation. but as yet have no proof. ( will I ever have?) Hovering in the background of this shower is a public figure with a dubious history and a professional link to these 2 perps. Her hubby links in some way to wretchdale, and one of these perps may link to one of the wretchdale perps - not yet established. one of the 2 cases in a jeff post about pos. masonic links with murdered British children links with Helens case. Barbara abd Sally have a different public figure hovering in the background. He came from the same political stable as the lady and mate above, like hubby has done time. his raison d'etre was large bung arms deals and general fixing.<br><br>I bug a couple of posters here who have had these guys in their sights for any scraps of info to chuck in this soup simmering on the back boiler. I try to extend a hand to any other survivors or carers who appear on this board, try to spread the word so that others may be more alert than I was 20 years ago and better protect themselves and those they love, and generally try to stay around to support barbara and sally.<br><br>do illuminati theories throw any light on this - I don't think so. Is it linked with a political agenda - much evidence for that, but with the caveat that what conspirators do is conspire WITH and AGAINST each other. Lower echelons are encouraged to think there is an all seeing all powerful cartel, I think its a dogfight over the mauled corpse of our democratic hopes.<br><br>so, what was it you wanted know? can I help at all? <br>biao has an email for me. I give permish for you to have it if he could pass it to you. <p></p><i></i>