Trance Formation of America, and other sick stuff

by **Homeless Halo** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:58 pm

It is at times like this I thank god for the hormonal imbalances that lead to my eternal numbness. this is like wading through a sewer, with no flashlight. I have no doubts that I have never been abused, not by Satanists or Illuminists or Politricks. That doesn't mean I'd neccessarily put it past them. (In fact, this sort of behavior would "explain" a lot the "ticks" some of these politician's have, perhaps evidence of their own history of abuse and/or control) About the doll: If its not too much to ask. What did it look like, that is, beyond its material components? Is it the same doll all the time? What color are its eyes? Do they open/shut or are they always open? (I'm going somewhere with this, but I don't want false positives to restrict my movement here)

by sw » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:19 pm

by **jenz** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:38 pm

the doll I wrote about is just one. I brought the matter up because of the resonance between memories which different survivors have - when sw posted about a doll which had a soft body but hard face, hands and feet, - well this far it was like the one I'm writing about. it had been used in some way by ra perps in an event. up to reading sw's account I had just thought - ok, nice doll with cuddly soft body, apealing to small children, the perps pinched it ( from a survivor when a child) to use it as a lure, because children would want to play with it. I did not think beyond that before reading sw. where it was found there was evidence that fire had been used, and that a child had been there. it was not the kind of place a child would voluntarily stay, don't want to say more than that about the specific crime scene. several times people have written suggesting that such or such practice described by a survivor or suggested by a news item is not credible, not likely or not part of a satanic belief system. to this I can only say that I've heard some pretty strange things, and on one level the wierdness of the scenarios described by survivors is a big help to the criminal perpetrators - so probably a good enough reason on its own to mix styles of attack. If one minute the plaintiff is describing a pseudo religious ritual and the next minute telling of being raped by someone wearing a mask of the face of a famous actor - their story seems immediately flaky. But my understanding so far is that the perps use any and every thing, so that triggers can come out of nowhere, so that a soap opera on tv or a set of kitchen knives, or any thing can throw the person they 'control' into a dependent or dysfunctional state; and it is very handy that this very variety of attacks seems to discredit survivors should they start to tell. To the extent that there are resonances between survivor stories, then, we can maybe posit a network.

by **Homeless Halo** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:31 pm

I was looking for information regarding the doll, because I've found a doll that fits such a description in an, out-of-the-way place before while visiting a "haunt" with a friend of mine. (we took mushrooms there, just for fun) There are rumors abounding at the area I have in mind of young women and children disappearing, and the doll I encountered, and kept for a bit oddly enough, had some creepy "tag" attached to it, if you get my drift. I was merely wondering for a visual description of it, because it seemed old and out of place to me, but I don't want to give a visual and then have it repeated back to me. If you're interested, I have dozens of stories about the "location" I've mentioned, a hotspot for oddities for at least a hundred some years. My family often uses the "family recreation area" attached to it to meet relatives because it is roughly halfway between our home and where my parents grew up. We don't go there anymore. I don't normally digress into these muddled areas, because they usually aren't very beneficial to MY goals. MY reasons for being here now. But this caught my glimpse as I was reading through these threads. (I read most of them)

by sw » Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:06 pm

by **Project Willow** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:57 am

I also hated dolls as a child. I stripped them of their clothes and threw them in a pile in the closet. So much of my play was some form of "telling". I have memories of doing some very bizarre things with rocks and helmuts. Zerohaven said: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Somebody had done such a good job that his switch between personalities was nearly indetectable unless you were paying super close attention. We concluded that he was let go after accumulating too many physical problems to be used anymore.<hr></blockquote> One way of achieving this is called shell programming. Parts rotate in and out behind a frontal shell part. The shell smooths over idiosyncratic mannerisms and voice inflections. You can't be an effective programmed spy if it's obvious you're a multiple. Lab created polyfragmented multiples are difficult to detect. What's really interesting is the mechanisms that cover for lost time and interruptions in the flow of concious thought. Jenz, don't know if this helps but many ra families move around quite a lot. I've met none too few who would just hook up with another local cult group after moving. Either there is some kind of communication flow there, or shared secret handshake.

by **Avalon** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:34 am

FWIW, my daughters, and most other girls I've known, always had the clothing off all their dolls. It's not significant on its own. The only thing my mom had of her childhood was a panda her boyfriend had won her at a carnival 6 years before I was born (I still have it, and the picture of her with it at the carnival), and maybe a half-dozen pictures of her as a little kid and maybe twice that of high school memories.

by **Homeless Halo** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:23 am

It isn't neccessarily strange to not have much in the way of "artifacts" from the past. I don't have more than five pictures/etc. from highschool. And I'm in my early twenties, I still have shoes from highschool, but I never took/kept pictures of myself and/or friends. I see them in person when I want to see them.

by sw » Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:51 pm

by sw » Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:49 pm

by **jenz** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:36 pm

Its ok, I don't get triggered, just the same sinking feeling we all have when told of inhumanity, and there's plenty of that around. however, don't do anything different on my account, I mean you probably will only recall naturally what it is good for your present health to know. think of good things too, so as to keep well.

by **Homeless Halo** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:31 pm

Sensetives? (that's what they're called nowadays right? we no longer need to debate the existence of these sorts of people, right? It is on court tv now, so its real right?) Sensetives: Halfway (timewise, not distance) between Detroit, where I am currently, and Wright Patterson AFB in Dayton OH, where I used to live, on I-75 is the city of Delaware. Just outside Columbus OH. It has "Indian" caverns scattered across it, and a nature preserve. Lots of people go "missing" in this area. More than is normal for rural Ohio, anyway. It was at the Delaware state park recreation area that I found the doll. When it got dark, my companion and I left, on account of the creeping sinking feeling we both had. I should mention, btw, I don't get this sort of feeling very often, has to be VERY biological in origin normally. (I have a hormonal imbalance which causes increased Seratonin levels in my brain, along with a number of other oddities. Rather than depression, my behavioral symptomes are "asociality" and the inability to empathize with others. Essentially, I'm a sociopath.) My father and mother left this place, after deciding to camp there, about a year earlier. My father, while he has many faults, is not afraid of anything. My friends often refer to him as "the batman" because of this and his heightened paranoia/preparedness. I did not know this until about a month ago, when I drove past the area with them, and mentioned that the place always makes me feel ill, and always had. (He said he left because of a dream he had, details of which I'll leave to your imagination, but are not dissimilar from the kind of things normally involed in RA, he used the word "demonic" to describe this feeling. I don't think he believes in demons) My father also described in his dream, the scenery of parts of the park he had never been to, which I had. I did not tell him this. I have reason to believe that something exceedingly odd it STILL ongoing in this area, and has support from at LEAST local authorities, including the park rangers and state police. I am not willing to discuss my reasons for this belief at present, because I am aware that there are "weeds" on this board. - (I will get you. Believe that)

by **Avalon** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:38 pm

"Lots of people go "missing" in this area. More than is normal for rural Ohio, anyway" Would you be able to quantify this?

by sw » Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:46 pm

by **Homeless Halo** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:53 pm

Not offhand I can't. It was months ago I looked it up. I'll see if I can retrace my steps. I found a lot of shit, where I didn't expect to really find anything. Perhaps later tonight, when I can't sleep, I'll attempt to look it up again. If not, then don't believe me. Or, of course, you could check it yourself.

Trance Formation of America, and other sick stuff

dolls. jesus.

not sure about the doll

HH

well

dolls

Re: dolls, switching, networks

Mom's stuff

in and of itself

thanks

jenz triggering***

sw

thankful.

"Lots"?

think of good things too

Avalon

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