gaiaguys.net found guilty of defaming OTO?

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gaiaguys.net found guilty of defaming OTO?

Postby hmm » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:22 pm

from the frontpage:<br><br>Australian Court finds www.gaiaguys.net guilty of defaming advocates of torture and child abuse!<br><br>In the 28th June 2005, the Australian Capital Territory Magistrate's Court judged authors of www.gaiaguys.net, a web site hosted in the United States, guilty of defaming the Ordo Templi Orientis Freemasons, who are advocates of torture, rape, child sacrifice, pederasty, cannibalism and more.<br><br>interesting? <p></p><i></i>
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Two versions

Postby Avalon » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:26 am

The gaiaguys version:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.gaiaguys.net/OTOsmallclaims.htm">www.gaiaguys.net/OTOsmallclaims.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The OTO version:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.otoaustralia.org.au/*****_july05_press.htm">www.otoaustralia.org.au/*..._press.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Two versions (triggers - language warning)

Postby biaothanatoi » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:18 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>(triggers - language warning)</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Since the ruling, I’ve caught a flood of insulting emails from occultists and pagans through an Indymedia article I wrote earlier this year that made the connection between ritual abuse in Australia and Crowley’s doctrine. <br><br>The latest is quite a charmer:<br><br>------------------------<br><br>From:        "Captain P.D.File" <kiddydiddles@priest.com> <br>To:        me@yahoo.com<br>Date:        Thu, 07 Jul 2005 04:28:01 -0500<br><br><br>You have broken the sacred secret of our society<br>and now we are coming to get you and shit in your mouth<br><br>When we are finished you will be fucked up like a 5 yr old in a 18 man black gangbang<br><br>And we are going to cut the cunt out of that whore of yours as well<br><br>All the best<br>~ Captain P.D.File<br>Chairman of the Satanic Pedophile underworld<br><br>---------------------------<br><br>The headers for the email are below. I've blanked out my public email address to avoid bots. <br><br>X-Originating-IP:        [205.158.62.67]<br><br>Received:from 205.158.62.67 (EHLO webmail outgoing.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.67) by mta118.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 02:28:02 -0700<br><br>Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180] ) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 11D2618001B2 for <me@yahoo.com>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:28:02 +0000 (GMT)<br><br>--------------------------------<br><br>The general tone of it all is too sarcastic to be cult, and I presume it's a random Crowley-ite out for kicks. The last line, though ... <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=biaothanatoi@rigorousintuition>biaothanatoi</A> at: 7/8/05 12:21 am<br></i>
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interesting email&headers

Postby hmm » Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:07 am

i'm not refering to the contents,well for obvious reasons, but the headers.Considering the contents one would expect much of it to be fake.<br><br>kiddydiddles@priest.com is a REAL email address which is odd.<br>it traces back to outblaze.com as the host of this domain (for email)<br>205.158.62.67 is the outblaze.com mail server.<br>192.168.9.180 is the sender.But this is "IMPOSSIBLE" as this is a non-routable IP address.<br>what this means is that the PC from which this message was sent is PHYSICALLY on the outblaze.com internal network.<br><br>now what does this mean to you,not much on the grand scheme of things maybe. But it does mean that it should be possible to have this account terminated and quite possibly cause (legal) trouble for the person(s) responsible.<br>Because of the clear criminal threat involved in the message it should be easy to get outblaze.com to co-operate with you and/or local law inforcement with little effort.<br>why bother you might say?small successes can be satisfying and it could deter others even if it doesnt expose the "real" criminals you are dealing with (not to suggest the mail threats arent real).<br><br>goodluck! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: interesting email&headers

Postby tabasco1776 » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:33 am

"priest.com" is one of many customized proxy email domains offered by mail.com's forwarding service:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.freepops.org/en/viewplugin.php?plugin=mailcom.lua">www.freepops.org/en/viewp...ailcom.lua</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Because mail.com is powered by Outblaze, I think all outgoing mail sent through their forwarding service will come out looking as if it came from Outblaze, rather than the actual IP of the sender.<br><br>Incidentally, Outblaze is headquartered in Hong Kong, so don't expect their cooperation to be easy.<br><br><br>---------------------<br><br>Registrar Name....: Register.com<br>Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com<br>Registrar Homepage: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.register.com">www.register.com</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Domain Name: outblaze.com<br><br> Created on..............: 10 Aug 1998 00:00:00<br> Expires on..............: 09 Aug 2007 00:00:00<br><br>Registrant Info:<br> Outblaze Limited<br> Unit 106-1108 Cyberport 2<br> 100 Cyberport Road<br> Hong Kong, <br> HK<br> Phone: +852.25341222<br> Fax..: 852 2534 9020<br> Email: domain-admin@outblaze.com<br><br>Administrative Info:<br> Outblaze Limited<br> Unit 106-1108 Cyberport 2<br> 100 Cyberport Road<br> Hong Kong, <br> HK<br> Phone: +852.25341222<br> Fax..: 852 2534 9020<br> Email: domain-admin@outblaze.com<br><br>Technical Info:<br> Outblaze Ltd<br> Network Operator<br> 4/F Nan Dao Comm. Bldg, Central<br> Hong Kong, <br> CN<br> Phone: +86.85225450788<br> Fax..: 852-28327807<br> Email: domain-tech@OUTBLAZE.COM<br><br>Billing Info:<br> Outblaze Limited<br> Unit 106-1108 Cyberport 2<br> 100 Cyberport Road<br> Hong Kong, <br> <br> Phone: +852.25341222<br> Fax..: 852 2534 9020<br> Email: domain-bill@outblaze.com<br><br>Status: Locked<br><br>Domain servers in listed order:<br><br> ns1.outblaze.com.<br> ns1.portal2.com.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Gaiaguys v. OTO

Postby professorpan » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:36 pm

As I stated before, Gaiaguys accused the OTO of crimes based upon zero evidence, other than some selections from Crowley's writings. When you accuse someone of a hideous crime, with no evidence, that person or persons has the right to legally defend themselves.<br><br>While I sympathize with Gaiaguys aims (rooting out RA), I can't sympathize with their behavior, which was simply foolish and reckless. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: interesting email&headers

Postby hmm » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:51 pm

thanks for clarifying that for me.thanks to your information i did some more amateur checking and found that mail.com outsources to outblaze.com (outblaze PR notice) and that mail.com is owned by exactadvertising.com which is a US company.<br>Checking mail.com terms of service:<br>"This Agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of New York"<br>and<br>"(<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> e-mail harassment of another Internet user or users, including but not limited to, transmitting any threatening, libelous or obscene material, or material of any nature which could be deemed to be offensive"<br>and<br>"mail.com shall, if and when it deems it appropriate, (1) facilitate criminal prosecution against such User by referring User's spamming activity to the appropriate legal authorities, and (2) bring a civil action against such User, who shall be liable to mail.com for any direct, indirect, special, incidental, or consequential damages incurred by mail.com as a result of User's spamming or other prohibited activity."<br>and<br>"To report a violation of this User Agreement, please write to abuse@mail.com. If you are forwarding an unsolicited commercial email ("spam") message, please be sure to include the full headers"<br><br>The non-routable IP address is still important as the logs of that machine will show the originating IP of the message.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://mail01.mail.com/templates/common/us/agreement.htm">mail01.mail.com/templates...eement.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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