Sleeping with the Enemy

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[AnnaLivia]

OMG, talk about wanting to help and not knowing what to do...<br><br>sw, sweet, i know next-to-nothing about remote viewing and might not be all that much help, but i do know how to sit up at night with a friend.<br><br>i'll be here to...just be here, if you need to talk in the night.<br><br>here's a hug for now. <p></p><i></i>

[jenz]

you are here now. you are alive, and you are communicating. if you have to sleep through another of these, you will still be here in the morning, and so will we. does this help? I can't think of anything else. <p></p><i></i>

[Peachtree Pam]

and will be here to dialogue and support.<br><br>Pam <p></p><i></i>

[AnnaLivia]

jenz, you have just made me recall a television documentary i saw whilst in New Zealand once. it was about people who had super-fears of one thing or another, and about the ways they had sought to overcome their powerful phobias.<br><br>this one brilliant man who was the only one who helped them, did it by making them (very very gently, in steps, and with reassurances for their safety, he didn't rush them) confront their phobia head on. a woman was absolutely out of her mind with fear of birds when he began with her, but he broke through her block by simply explaining to her and getting her to see, that what she was so desperately afraid of wasn't really that the bird would kill her, but that she would not survive her fear of it! he made her see that her fear might rise (difficult breathing. heart pounding, etc.), but that it couldn't kill her at all! her fear was never going to kill her, period. he made her see it would fall again as sure as it rose, and it would never no matter how it felt, really harm her.<br><br>that little nugget/reassurance/clarification changed her whole life. he made her touch the bird, and nothing happened to her except she got afraid and then unafraid again.<br><br>and after that, she wasn't afraid no more to begin with.<br><br>she once in sheer blind panic had abandoned her little daughter at the beach when a bird landed very close, without even realizing it for a few minutes as she ran.<br><br>after the therapist's "revelation", she now has a pet bird!!!<br><br>yes, sw, it must be true? bottom line, we have nothing to fear except fear itself? <p></p><i></i>

[jenz]

also, I think (based on fairly limited experience it must be said), that your mind takes you back there when 'it' judges you to be strong enough to bear it. so I mean, your mind is telling you, now you are strong, I can show you this. you' re strong enough now, and you will be strong enough again. its just not nice that's all. but it doesn't last. <p></p><i></i>

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[chiggerbit]

Love the title of the thread. Interesting choice. <p></p><i></i>

[Project Willow]

Just want to say I appreciate seeing you all support sw. It gives me hope. <br><br>sw, I had lots of trouble sleeping for a very long time. When I finally started seeing someone who knew all about this stuff I started to be able to sleep almost immediately. Now I only have trouble intermittantly. I tried valerian root a couple of years ago and it worked fairly well. You can get it over the counter.<br><br>Oh, and your description of the rv process... yes. <br><br>That is an interesting choice of topic heading. It certainly applies to those of us who went through the programs. What is that saying.. a house divided against itself cannot stand? It may take 40 years for the walls to come down, or less if we work at it, but they'll come down. <p></p><i></i>

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[DrDebugDU]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Is Kansas City, Kansas linked to any MKUltra areas? <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>There has been a microwave mind control studies at Midwest Research Institute in Kansas City in 1985 ( <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://ufo.whipnet.org/xdocs/controllers/index3.html">ufo.whipnet.org/xdocs/con...ndex3.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ) and - but that was a study carried out on monkeys - Veterans' Administration Hospital which was also a microwave study back in 1965 as part of Project Pandora. ( <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.freedomdomain.com/mindelectronic.html">www.freedomdomain.com/min...ronic.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> )<br><br>So both studies which I can find in relation to Kansas City are microwave mind control studies where microwave radiation is used to alter and transform thinking patterns and whether it could be used for brainwashing. <p></p><i></i>

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[DrDebugDU]

Abuse happens more than society is willing to admit. You are not the only one. I don't go into details about this subject on messageboards either, but you have to try to go back to that place in memory to release the blockage and it sounds like you have done it. I personally noticed that burning Californian White Sage helps to open the mind. But don't try to convince people, because it's a taboo subject and most won't listen. <p></p><i></i>

[Avalon]

I've got a death and flossing connection that occasionally pops up and makes me laugh at myself, at least now that it's this far along. There was someone I loved very much, who died during surgery in his mid-thirties. He was the only person I've ever known who was conspicuously conscientious about flossing. Sometimes when I think of him it still pops up and surprises me, the shocked little exclamation I made over and over inside when I heard he'd died -- "But he was so good about flossing!"<br><br>Sleep can be hard even without a history of trauma. When my first child turned 7, I asked her how 6 had been for her. She said it was pretty good, but she was relieved to get over it by safely turning 7. She explained that she had heard you die when you get really old, and she thought 7 was old. She'd resisted letting herself go into sleep, becasue she wasn't sure she'd wake up.<br><br>Some questions come to mind.<br><br>Have you read or tried things aimed at fostering the dreams you'd like to have? Setting yourself up to steer the content and tone of the dreams in a more conscious way rather than just letting them happen? Are there some ways you can nurture yourself before bedtime that will help those good feelings continue into your sleep state? <br><br>Would keeping a dream journal help in any way? Can you enlist your other part to help in this? What suggestions does your therapist have about dreams? When you had those good dreams that you remember, was there anything in particular going on that led to them? Could the magical horse help you?<br><br>I don't myself tend to have that much in the way of noteworthy dreams, one way or the other. Never had. I think it may be because I tend to work out a lot of things overtly and symbolically in real life. I often look at the symbolic literally, and the literal symbolically.<br><br>Dreams can bring us valuable information, but it sounds like you are being given too much information, and information that is not helpful or healing.<br><br>Would it help to give yourself permission -- or start giving yourself orders -- to limit your focus on these kinds of thoughts to doing it at a certain time and place, which could then eventually be controlled or modified? When I had a biting toddler, I was able to extinguish the behavior after making her do two weeks of compulsory biting until it became tedious. It can be a useful tactic in all sorts of situations.<br><br>You deserve to have good dreams, and you deserve to have a good waking life. Maybe with the collective wisdom here we can help in some way to get you closer to that healing.<br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>