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Postby Dreams End » Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:36 pm

Might as well take advantage of the minds of some posters here.<br><br>My wife is DID with limited recall of what created the condition. It seems clear there is abuse by a family member, but she "doesn't want to know." Who could blame her.<br><br>however, someone in her does know. And she emerged for the first time a few nights ago. She went to sleep as 'wisper', a child alter, and awoke with a start but not one word. It turned out to be an alter who has no name, and, indeed, does not even have a mouth with which to speak. <br><br>until that night, this alter lived in a cell which was locked. Debbie (not my wife's real name but someone suggested I give her a name in these accounts) had promised to find the key. <br><br>I tried something that night and had an intuition it might bring forward previously unemerged alters. Wisper was going on and on about chocolate and I told her I loved her and to make sure and pass that love on to everyone inside. She chose to do it by offering chocolate kisses. Evidently she pushed the kiss through the bars of Silence's (my name for her) cell. <br><br>Then later she emerged, stood up and looked out the window for a few minutes and then Debbies physical body just collapsed onto the floor...her adult self came back and cried heavily but know visual memories surfaced (she'd had some pain earlier that matched pain that rape might cause....it's common I think to "remember" in this way.)<br><br>So Silence is now out. she stays in her cell but the cell is no longer locked. Soon, I imagine, she will somehow begin to tell her story.<br><br>Soliciting free advice:<br><br>1. The freaking headaches. The more Debbie must fight to maintain control the worse they are. She lets some alters out at appropriate times, but getting through work or interacting with her daughter is tough. She has pretty strong medication for these, but any other advice would be welcome.<br><br>2. Fever. She had a constant fever for a month...low grade but she works for a doc who ran every blood test he could think of. We and her therapist began to speculate it was somehow excess energy from someone inside trying to get out or to get attention. Sure enough, after Silence emerged, she didn't have fever anymore. has anyone heard of this? <br><br>3. Any advice for how to be support person if Silence should put too much info out there at one time? It really seems like bits are emerging as Debbie's ready to handle them but if she gets real specific memories she's gonna have a serious freak-out and the hospitalizations really don't help at all. She's been in twice due to fears of suicide, but that's all they are good for these days is stabilizing suicidal patients. Even the hospital that is listed as "addressing alters" in some guide I found had a nurse who basically mocked her DID. So, really don't want hospitals.<br><br>4. If we get ANY indication that what's going on here stems from more than just abuse by family members, I will post that and look for advice on that topic. I don't discuss it with her now not only because there are simply no memories or even triggers that can't be explained by familial abuse but also not to make her situation feel more hopeless than she sometimes already feels it is. We've had a few short, very general conversations about how this may have happened to others but that's as far as it goes. <br><br>Okay, it helps to get this out. She's doing pretty well so I'm not sitting around in crisis mode, but just trying to think ahead. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: DID advice

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:18 pm

HOW is Silence going to tell her story? Will she develop a mouth, or can she write? <p></p><i></i>
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Pre - verbal parts

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Re: Pre - verbal parts

Postby Dreams End » Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:12 pm

thanks for those, sw.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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A friend with DID...

Postby banned » Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:56 am

...just told me the day before yesterday about how she had wanted to make a gift for her priest but couldn't do the artwork, until suddenly an alter appeared and did it beautifully. She asked "Who are you?" and the alter, probably a child, said "Nobody." So she called her Nobody.<br><br>As sw says, art may be a good way to let Silence express herself. One of the links someone gave here or on the main blog the other day mentioned scrapbook therapy, which I have thought of trying because I have a nonverbal child inside. (She knows 2-3 words, otherwise mostly just cries.) I'm not quite sure how it works, but I was thinking about just getting some magazines and a scissors and saying "Tell me about you" and see what I get. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: A friend with DID...

Postby Dreams End » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:58 am

ONe clarification. "Silence" is what I'm calling her...maybe a name will emerge from her and I'll start using that one. Thanks for the input. But about those headaches...she's really in pain today even after the strong painkillers so advice there would be appreciated. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: A friend with DID...

Postby Project Willow » Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:10 am

First off, "Nobody" is a kind of red flag. It is a common alter name in mc survivors. So are the rest of them, as in how about an internal game of who's on first? <br><br>DE, I will post some here as it has public benefit, but I'll send you a pm on the rest. No point in helping out lurking handlers/programmers regardless of whether such is the case with your wife.<br><br>I'll write you about the headaches. Multis and monos alike have a part of personality which serves an executive function, it could be related to that. It may also be as simple as the body pains which you described, emerging parts may have head injuries.<br><br>The fever, yes I know of it. It may also be the same as above. I have parts who hold anger, also some who were hurt with heat. My body temperature rises when they blend with me.<br><br>It sounds to me as if you are being a great carer! Your wife's system will naturally manage what she can handle. The trick is giving her some tools to both understand what is happening and be able to take control. You can't always do it, but there are methods for keeping things on a certain level. One thing that helps, have your wife let all the kids know they will be heard and helped eventually. If they get that message, they may not feel as much of a need to get attention by taking over the body and creating a crisis. <br>I'm sure you know about anniversaries too. Write them down and prepare for them.<br><br>More in the pm. If I can't get to it tonight, it may take a few days. More later on what's keeping me busy. <p></p><i></i>
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What is an "mc survivor?"

Postby banned » Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:18 am

Never heard that term before.<br><br>My friend grew up in a cult. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: What is an "mc survivor?"

Postby Project Willow » Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:56 am

uh-oh banned, can o'worms there. It means mind control survivor. I'm sorry about your friend. I could do some research to see how prevelent the name is within cult programming techniques. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Homeless Halo » Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:59 am

Ideas.<br><br>1. What meds are being taken currently?<br>I've heard of people in D-town using THC (we have prescription marj here) as it relieves pain using several different avenues, it can also reduce fevers and increase appetite besides the general "chilling" effects creating from the bonding with cannibanoid receptors. Of course, if the trauma was induced while she was on hallucinogens or if she is the "trancey" type, then even a mild Hal. like THC could conceivably induce "flashbacks" although this is uncommon.<br><br>2. Fever could be heat from increased neuronal activity. If vessel expanding painkillers don't reduce the fever, this is more likely, as electrical activity can't be subsided by painkillers as a normal sickness fever could. Perhaps some sort of calming techniques, i.e. yoga, or something simpler like a distraction, soothing music could help.<br><br>3. Touchy. Surveillance might be the best option here, if you don't have time to watch her, perhaps you have someone you trust that could shift change with you. Besides this there are anti-dep meds, but these often make things worse or merely "zombify" the treated.<br><br>4. If there is evidence of a known perpetrator, I happen to live in the WASP part of the Detroit suburbs where there is a large collection of organized criminals. I could probably put you in touch with a "cleaner", if you prefer the direct route. Outside of this, until you have more information regarding the exact situation, you should be careful not to move beyond helping her realize she isn't alone, as its possible that dwelling on the sufferings of others could confuse her emergence and integration. As much as possible, you should allow the revelations to emerge "naturally" (it bothers me that I live in a world where there is a natural process of remembering traumatic abusive situations) and with as little interference as you can help.<br><br>Beyond that, I'd say you are already doing better than most, and caution you to be careful taking advice from untrained individuals (or tained individuals), although it never hurts to ask around.<br><br>Best of luck.<br><br><br>Love is the Law,<br>SHCR. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby sw » Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:43 pm

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Headaches

Postby marykmusic » Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:55 pm

First, rule out the possible physical causes.<br><br>The most common source for migraines is simply dehydration. Real good water is the best way to deal with that. A half-gallon a day is not too much, and less than that is probably not enough to offset the other stuff...<br><br>Coffee doesn't count as liquid intake. Soda certainly doesn't, nor does any form of alcohol. These will all dehydrate even more.<br><br>It could be something this simple, and this will make everything else harder. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Headaches

Postby Dreams End » Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:02 pm

As I've mentioned elsewhere, her situation is apparently from close family members abusing her. We limit contact and they are in another state. I don't worry about her safety for that reasons. And HH...please don't make such offers for "cleaners" on this board, well meaning as it might be. It jeapardizes Jeff and anyone who responds with anything approaching interest would find themselves the target of some FBI sting operation. Plus, we really don't even have a clear picture of what's going on yet. <br><br>Interesing about increased neuronal activity, as opposed to vascular. That could explain why the damn thing won't go away. (actually, I've been having headaches the last few days and I rarely have them. can't shake it either. sympathy pains?)<br><br>Thanks everyone. <p></p><i></i>
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