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civil disobedience

Postby Homeless Halo » Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:13 am

IR: It is taught that it is healthy to disobey as much as possible within physiological norms. Sort of Militant Zen.<br><br>Do not resist whenever you can, but always resist whenever you must.<br><br>The unseen virtue of the state of war, the benefits of the large scale competitions, will inevitably trump themselves, if we can only hold off oblivion for a while yet. In the info-war age, which is in it mere infancy (we're like the people before WWI, we literally cannot imagine the things that will be available on a large scale in 38-94 years on... And I'm not talking about any ridiculous futurism, you the escalation in the theory of info war. The scale for creation and destuction will be increased, and this ongoing "conflict" between our cooperations and our competitions will devour itself, and someone will emerge victorious, in complete control. It is inevitable, in the type of non-zero sum warfare we have embarked upon long ago through our globalizations and industrializations and slow sporadic technological increase. We will become one thing. It is to us who are alive now and those who are being born to decide what this one thing will be.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: we will become one thing,,,no please

Postby israelirealities » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:20 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>will become one thing<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->. <br><br>I don't think so, and hope not. Yes, I agree the main front is infowar, as you call it in the USA (here nobody knows its happening...:-)). And there will be technology to access the brain and "wash" it so to speak. But I decided recently that the "doomsday" MeMe is fake. like "this and that will happen full stop" (bad/goog thing, eternal and irreversible). It is the Messiah program, I don't think its real. In Jewish conservative tradition, the Messiah is not such a big deal, it is only a fairly decent politician who will lead the nation to fairly decent peaceful and prosperous times. And that too is considered "messianic", namely, unreachable except by miracle...:-). My vision of "heaven" as well, namely, the next step in our evolution, is pretty much the same as now, except everyone is communicating ESP sort of. But the rest is intrigue, politics and ...the law as well. I don't think we can avoid complexity, shades and diversity even if we really want.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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well

Postby Homeless Halo » Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:25 pm

I don't think its "irreversible" or anything, but I do think it is inevitable, following our current path.<br><br>However, I do not believe in doomsday scenarios. But "total" infowar creates unity out of division based simply on the standard operations in a tactical sense ("becoming" your enemy and vice versa). I don't think it will "stop" or the world will "end". But I think a lot of our paradigms we cling to will cease to exist before my lifetime is over, at least among the general populations and fundamentalist seperatism will continue to erode long term, per capita.<br><br>I think that its likely that within 50-100 years, at most, we will see the emergence of a powerful worldwide organizational system. the "control" system is already existant, as is the economic basis for such a system. What doesn't exist is a system of "consent" or "cooperation" (ie democracy in some form) in the global sense. That the power of the globalists will grow IS inevitable (better "tactics" than the nation-state idea), it is a superior meme. However, whether or not this will be totalitarian or benevolent remains to be seen, although I highly doubt it will be ENTIRELY either. Info war, in theory, almost always results in non-zero fusion of sorts, with the "best" idea available (the strongest idea) filling each "niche". I think this will work more to our benefit than our detriment by the time it is mostly "over". Then we will expand.<br><br>I'm thinking sort of like star trek, except with far bigger "ships" and much more dangerous capability. <br>(we are already more dangerous)<br><br>I think the global mind will become slowly more self aware. At some point this will reach critical mass, although likely not for some hundreds of years, if not more, depending on the growth trends in several areas and the tendency to conflict on a large scale.<br><br>I do not think the "apocalypse" scenario will happen, unless perhaps in a Blakean sense. We wouldn't know it had happened if it did.<br><br>I'm just talking about the "obvious" strategic outcomes of the "winning" of the info wars that have begun and will become ww3 (although we will not acknowledge this, infowar is less visible, and tending in this direction), and then the huge technological increase following this to an even longer series of conflicts, perhaps at "trump" levels by this point. (WW1 started with trenches and muskets, ww2 ended with atomic bombs)<br><br>I'm not saying the world will end. I think we, as a species, are entirely too resilient and tenacious for that, but I think we are in for a bumpy ride, and the world will be much different when it is over. (The country you live in existed again after the last round, perhaps it won't after the next, Israel always seems to be caught in the middle of these cyclical conflicts)<br><br>Just prepare to find a safe place to sit out a few years here and there, and prepare for your loved ones to do likewise.<br><br>What comes out of it, will be different from whatever anyone has to compare it with at present, and this is the only thing that history tells us we can say for certain.<br><br>Enjoy. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: well

Postby israelirealities » Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:05 pm

Dear me<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Just prepare to find a safe place to sit out a few years here and there, and prepare for your loved ones to do likewise.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>have no where to go...so you're saying better start enjoying the last moments...its always a good idea. Its funny how you think people can just go and find a place on this planet. There's no where to go, hey ? More so, if one is on the wrong end of the Israeli establishment, no place on earth is far enough or safe, on the contrary (explanation - those outside of ISrael who oversee naughty israelis are worse than their colleagues here and have more leeway and less supervision). tried it, ended up back here with very few feathers left. Tell you more than that, an ISraeli in trouble with ISrael, has no allies outside of ISrael. (not so many here, as well, but then at least I speak the language). The more I think about it, perhaps it would be wiser to put aside my ideals and join the mainstream Likkud Zionists. I think I'll do that, actually, its really becoming pathetic recently, my situation, that is. As you said "collaborate or die!". <br>Thanks for the reminder. <br><br>SO, with this happy note, I'll check out for tonight. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Collaborate or die is what is known...

Postby banned » Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:14 pm

...as the fallacy of the excluded middle: those aren't the only two options.<br><br>I prefer to not collaborate and live.<br><br>What I learned my first year in law school was, "The law is whatever is forcefully asserted and plausibly maintained."<br><br>That's of course not true in a society where the law is hopelessly corrupt--then the maintenance is forceful as well.<br><br>IR, I understand what you mean about the idea that Americans have that you can just pop off somewhere else if things get sucky where you are.<br><br>Part of this believe comes from the national character which is steeped in the idea of the endless frontier, that like Huck Finn you can still "light out for the territories."<br><br>Another part comes from most of the population never having been driven into or forced to seek exile.<br><br>Because Americans can go anywhere in the world on vacation, they assume if things got bad they could just pick a place and go. It's only when you start researching that you realize that even with money it is not that easy and without money it can be impossible.<br><br>Likewise, Americans don't know what it's like to leave but have to keep looking over your shoulder for the Tsar's secret police or the Savak or Mossad or whoever is sent after exiles who continue to speak out, or who are objects of vengeance.<br><br>Americans are naive, IR, we've lived in a country that was for most non-poor non-minorities a Disney fantasy park. Only when enough of us hit the Canadian border with all our wordly goods in the back of the SUV to find it CLOSED INDEFINITELY, or leave everything behind but our passports and a pocketful of cash to hop a plane for Oz only to be told to go back to the US because the Aussies aren't about to have their country overrun by American exiles, or can't get on the plane at all because all the passenger lists of international flights are pre-screened and if you're someone they don't want getting out and running your mouth about what's been happening here you'll get pulled aside and disappear into the Gulag, or find out they're too old/too poor/wrong career to apply for citizenship in the country of their choice or find a haven and come home one night to find a CIA agent smashing their hard drive and offering them a free 'rendering' to the torture point of their choice or are out for a hike and an unmanned drone homes in on them and they have to run for their lives, assuming they even have time to do so....<br><br>Oh, yes, Murkans are in for a real education in the next few years. As I started to say back in 2001, Americans have believed history was a spectator sport. It is not. We need to put down the remote, the beer and the popcorn, and be part of what has been the reality for most of the world's populace particularly in the bloody 20th century (and so far even bloodier 21st.) <p></p><i></i>
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It's always the quiet ones...

Postby banned » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:41 pm

[Just once when someone pulls something like this, don't you wish they'd quote people as saying "This guy was a ticking bomb and everybody knew it, and his family was crazier than shithouse rats. Don't surprise me a bit."]<br><br><br>Caped Teen Kills Two, Then Self in Calif.<br><br>By GILLIAN FLACCUS, Associated Press Writer <br><br>ALISO VIEJO, Calif. - A 19-year-old in a black cape and a paintball mask went on a shooting rampage Saturday in his upscale Southern California neighborhood, killing a man and his daughter before committing suicide, authorities said.<br><br>William Freund also fired shots into another house and confronted a neighbor outside, said Orange County Sheriff's Department spokesman Jim Amormino.<br><br>A neighbor said Freund had attended high school with one of the victims, but police don't believe the two knew each other.<br><br>"It may have been random," Amormino said.<br><br>Freund left his home about 9 a.m. and drove less than 100 yards to a house where he killed Vernon Smith, 45, and daughter Christina Smith, 22, with a shotgun, Amormino said. A 20-year-old son escaped after hearing shots.<br><br>Freund then walked across the street and fired into another house, Amormino said. A person inside suffered cuts from broken glass.<br><br>Another neighbor heard the commotion, came outside and was confronted by the teen, who tried to fire his weapon. When it misfired, Freund went back to his own house and committed suicide, Amormino said.<br><br>Neighbor Katherine Anderson, 15, said Freund and Christina Smith had attended Aliso Miguel High School together.<br><br>Anderson, whose older brother had given Freund a ride to school, described Freund as "a real quiet guy."<br><br>Other neighbors said Freund would sit in front of his house and play guitar for hours at a time.<br><br>Police tape blocked off much of the large subdivision in the hills above Aliso Viejo, a wealthy section of south Orange County.<br><br>Built in 1995, the neighborhood of mostly beige two-story homes was described by residents as a family community where people often socialized.<br><br>The Smith house was known for its holiday decorations, including multiple Christmas trees put up each season and a snow village in the bay window. <p></p><i></i>
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whereas

Postby Homeless Halo » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:55 pm

I was tending towards just trying to be careful.<br><br>Although, failing that, when the going gets tough...<br><br>It isn't that hard, if survival is what you seek, to live off of the map. Leave before they know to look for you, do not wait until they start rounding up those nearby you.<br><br>Living "away" is only difficult for the soft urbanized domesticated people. It is hard, because you want to keep all the comforts of life. This computer. Those lights, that television. But you require none of this to survive. Our planet is very fucked, yes, but there are still plenty of places to hide.<br><br>There are levels of survival I would be willing (especially temporarily, everything is temporary) to accept if the choice is between surviving and not surviving.<br><br>Human beings do not require much knowledge and/or resources to live fairly well out of doors. We are animals, after all, and we lived outside for millions of years, much as we are.<br>-------<br>This is enough for you to go camping indefinitely, without camping supplies, all available at AMAZON:<br><br><br><br>Survival Retreat : A Total Plan For Retreat Defense by Ragnar Benson<br><br>Survival: A Manual That Could Save Your Life by Chris Janowsky, Gretchen Granowsky<br><br>US Army Survival Manual: FM 21-76 by Department of Defense<br><br>Surviving the Desert (Davenport, Gregory J. Books for the Wilderness.) by Gregory J. Davenport<br><br>Participating in Nature: Thomas J. Elpel's Field Guide to Primitive Living Skills by Thomas Elpel<br><br>The Encyclopedia of Edible Plants of North America by Francois Couplan, James Duke<br><br>Wilderness Medicine, Beyond First Aid, 5th Edition by William Forgey<br><br>Wilderness Evasion : A Guide To Hiding Out and Eluding Pursuit in Remote Areas by Michael Chesbro<br><br>The Worst-Case Scenario Survival Handbook by Joshua Piven, David Borgenicht<br><br>---------------<br><br>Or if you intend more than survival, there are "solutions" <br>for imperialism:<br><br>You would do well with some basic martial training, and some experience in living rough. Learn now.... <br><br><br>Phantom Soldier: The Enemy's Answer to U.S. Firepower by H. John Poole, William S. Lind<br><br>On Guerrilla Warfare by Zedong Mao, Tse-Tung Mao <br><br>How To Open Locks With Improvised Tools: Practical, Non-Destructive Ways Of Getting Back Into Just About Everything When You Lose Your Keys by Hans Conkel<br><br>Visual Guide to Lock Picking (2nd Edition) by Mark McCloud, Gonzalez De Santos (Illustrator)<br><br>Modern High-Security Locks : How To Open Them by Steven Hampton<br><br>Techniques of Burglar Alarm Bypassing by Wayne B. Yeager<br><br>Techniques of Safecracking by Wayne B. Yeager<br><br>How to Pick Pockets for Fun and Profit: A Magicians Guide to Pickpocket Magic by Eddie Joseph, Bruce Fife<br><br>Who Are You? The Encyclopedia of Personal Identification by Scott French<br><br>CLOSE COMBAT by United States Marine Corps, USMC<br><br>Real Fighting : Adrenaline Stress Conditioning Through Scenario-Based Training by Peyton Quinn<br><br>Anatomy of a Street Fight by Paul Vunak<br><br>Cheap Shots, Ambushes, And Other Lessons : A Down And Dirty Book On Streetfighting & Survival by Marc Animal MacYoung<br><br>Spec Ops : Case Studies in Special Operations Warfare: Theory and Practice by William H. Mcraven<br><br>Dirty Dozen : 12 Nasty Fighting Techniques For Any Self-Defense Situation by Larry Jordan<br><br>Professional's Guide to Ending Violence Quickly: How Bouncers, Bodyguards, and Other <br>Security Professionals Handle Ugly Situations by Marc<br><br>The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker<br><br>Secrets Of Street Survival - Israeli Style : Staying Alive In A Civilian War Zone by Eugene Sockut<br><br>Countering the New Terrorism : by Ian Lesser<br><br>Information Operations: Warfare and the Hard Reality of Soft Power (Issues in Twenty-First Century Warfare) by Leigh Armistead<br><br>In Athena's Camp : Preparing for Conflict in the Information Age <br>by John Arquilla, David F. Ronfeldt<br><br>Networks and Netwars : The Future of Terror, Crime, and Militancy by John Arquilla, David F. Ronfeldt <br><br>The Zapatista Social Netwar in Mexicoby David Ronfeldt, et al <br><br>Swarming and the Future of Conflict (Mr (Rand Corporation), Db-311-Osd.) by John Arquilla, et al<br><br>Information Warfare Principles and Operations by Edward Waltz <br><br>Stray Voltage: War in the Information Age by Wayne Michael Hall <br><br>Intelligence Services in the Information Age: Theory and Practice (Studies in Intelligence Series) by Michael Herman<br><br>Defensive Information Warfare by David S. Alberts<br><br>Deception in War by Jon Latimer<br><br>Anticipating Surprise: Analysis for Strategic Warning by Cynthia M. Grabo <br><br>Surprise Attack : The Victim's Perspective by Ephraim Kam<br><br>Understanding Terror Networks by Marc Sageman<br><br>Running A Ring Of Spies : Spycraft And Black Operations In The Real World Of Espionage by Jefferson Mack <br><br>Funding Evil: How Terrorism Is Financed--and How to Stop It by Rachel Ehrenfeld, R. James Woolsey<br><br>THE SAFE HOUSE by Jefferson Mack<br><br>Fighting by Minutes by Robert R. Leonhard <br><br>The Tao of Spycraft: Intelligence Theory and Practice in Traditional China by Ralph D. Sawyer, Mei-Chun Sawyer <br><br>One Hundred Unorthodox Strategies by Mai-Chun Sawyer, et al <br><br>The Soviet Conduct of Tactical Maneuver: Spearhead of the Offensive (Cass Series on Soviet Military Theory and Practice) by David M. Glantz, David M Glantz (Editor)<br><br>Modern Strategy by Colin S. Gray<br><br>Operational Logistics: The Art and Science of Sustaining Military Operations by Moshe Kress<br><br>Tactical Edge: Surviving High-Risk Patrol by Charles Remsberg<br><br>The SAS Combat Handbook (SAS) by Jon E. Lewis<br><br>The SAS Fighting Techniques Handbook (SAS) by Terry White<br><br>Infantryman's Guide To Combat In Built-Up Areas by Rex Applegate<br><br>An Infantryman's Guide to Urban Combat by U. s. Army <br><br>Counter Sniper Guide by U S Army <br><br>U.S. Army Sniper Training Manual by Paladin Press<br><br>U.S.M.C. Sniping by Us Government, USMC Development Education Command Staff <br><br>Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East by Michael Oren, Michael B. Oren<br><br>--------------<br><br>There are also a variety of ways in which modern devices can be made into compact weaponry. When push comes to shove...<br><br>Most of these are available on the internet. Find a copy of the instructions, if you don't have the proper background.<br><br>Do not make it easy for them.<br><br>(disobedience)<br>SHCR<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Wow, great reading list!

Postby banned » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:39 am

I just started with Sun Tzu, "The Art of War" which I have long been meaning to read.<br><br>Also re-reading "The Prince" by Macchiavelli: "You must be a fox to recognize the traps, and a lion to scare the wolves."<br><br>I've never lived without electricity, but for 2 years after my post-9/11 breakdown I moved to a new town and rented a tiny little "in law unit" with no heater, refrigerator or stove, no computer, no TV and no phone. <br><br>I did have a cell phone and a very small (shoebox size) space heater. When I first moved in I put all my own stuff in storage and had only a single cot, 1 table, 2 metal fold up chairs, a coffee table, and an armchair. There was a sink in the tiny (and I mean tiny) L shaped "living area", no sink in the john which was a tub with a toilet right next to it.<br><br>It was basically a converted garden room in the back of a house. The bedroom was about big enough for a single futon with a little room on one side and a cement ledge on the other on which I arranged my "Lord of the Rings" action figures in various poses as the whim struck me.<br><br>Over the winter, it was so cold, I didn't need a fridge; I just put stuff in the sink and it stayed cold. In the summer I had a cooler. I also over time bought a George Foreman grill and a friend gave me a rice/soup cooker.<br><br>When I first moved in, I was totally freaked. Turned out later it wasn't just from 9/11, I had a bad reaction to the antidepressant they gave me. Once I got off that it took a few months for me to stop feeling depersonalized and panicky. November through February was the worst, March and April transitional. The summer was up and down. Around October I started feeling better.<br><br>I got so used to what my friend dubbed my "hobbit hole" that when I finally moved into a regular studio cottage, as I showed it to a friend just as he said "This is so small!" I said "Isn't it big?" It WAS compared to where I'd been, it had a full kitchen and a normal sized bathroom. I thought I'd moved up to seriously posh digs. I had real heat! I had a sink in the bathroom! I had a fridge and stove! I felt RICH.<br><br>It's all what you get used to. Ironically, this 'nice' place turned into a horrorshow--insane neighbors, a crooked property manager. I look back now on my spartan days in my little hobbit hole, where I did a lot of reading and writing because I had no distractions, very fondly. The 'house people' were very nice, my neighbors on both sides were pleasant. I have a wonderful memory of going out to watch the Leonids (November meteor showers), my neighbor and I set lawn chairs in the middle the street (it was about 2 am, no traffic), leaned back, and watched the shooting stars for a couple of hours. There was a nice little downtown area nearby that I started to explore when my money situation improved a bit, I found a friendly little cafe that served a terrific, reasonably priced breakfast. Now, back living in the high rent district, the local cafe is "upscale" which means nobody talks to anyone except whoever they came with, and all the convos you overhear are people BSing each other, trying to sell them something or get a job. Nothing real. I made a BIG mistake coming back here. I'd grown in my time of simplicity, learned what's really important and what's horse hockey.<br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: frontiers forever

Postby israelirealities » Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:44 am

Hi<br>I just got up and found out the war hasn't started yet :-) just the regular noise from the garbage truck.<br><br>Banned, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>so you a lawyer</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> too ? how many are there on this board ? <br><br>Oh, I did meet at least one american guy, who had to seek assylum outside the USA, I think he went to NZ, and if he does not lay low he will meet the guys from the government. He wrote a book about some "stuff" concerning US involvement in Indonesia, worked for an NGO in San Francisco but felt unsafe. Of cousre, unlike the ISraelis, CIA will not bother with exiled Americans, which I think is still a sign your country is not as fascist as described on this board. I also met the American defector from the army who two years ago applied for assylum in Toronto, was refused by still runs a campaign and will be granted status for sure. He said that surely, the difference between him and any ISraeli in similar conditions is that nobody from the US government will be bothered with him personally, they will pull strings with the politicians to prevent a favorable ruling (for diplomatic reasons) but he does not for one minute feel personally under any sort of danger. <br>So, the general rule for American dissidents is that they are free to act even in the USA, without expecting personal attacks. But I am sure those who touched deepers issues, OR people who in the first place were harrassed by CIA or were MC victims etc., are not safer outsider the USA than inside. <br>There was this guy who said awful things abuot Bush, can't rememebr the name, fled to Britain and had a gory ending, there. <br>Banned, its not only that borders don't open easily for refugees on political grounds, its that if you happen to be bringing trouble with you, like the CIA after you, nobody wants to take the risk, even if publicly they rant all day about the bloody administration. Talk is talk, and bullshit walks..you know that. I have seen it with my very eyes. WHich is another weakness of the opposition to the BUsh people (and mossad and what not). If one is just barking but afraid, they know it.<br>Canada will not close borders to Americans but it might be soon that their place ain't gonna be a whole lot different for dissidents. Right now you can still get support there, but it is getting harder I think, cause the market is gradually being taken over by same corporations. See, the MAher Arar fiasco.<br><br>that said I am going to get ready for the wilderness...<br><br>HH, there is hardly a wilderness here, if you moved out to the countryside, the creditors will find you before the H-bomb...:-), its really very small here, centralized and everyone knows where everyone is, especially if you move with kids (like me). If the situation came and we had to dig food from the earth, I suppose I'll deal with it then. Its not so hard here, considering the weather is OK (no winter and a bit too hot in the summer but manageable without A/C).<br>The last year, of "no feathers left" was a good survival camp for me, in that respect. First time in my life, NO MONEY, NO A/C, NO CAR. I just realized how dependent we are on cars for instance. I had my own car since i was 19 years old. Suddenly, all you can do is WALK or take an awful bus, which makes walking seem nice. It was, during July and August now, 120' outside, humidity 90%. This is FEELING third world. FEELING what the government can do to you, without ever being charged, just oppression. and they don't even have to make a lot of effort to get you this low. At least not here, there is just a "word" out there, and nobody will hire you. kind of blacklist without an official paper. that's what governments in small places have, that the US government will never have. totall control.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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hiding

Postby jenz » Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:18 am

just watched french tv news item on immigrants trying to hide at Sangat. reading books about spending time camping out is one thing .....<br><br>and banned .. have to say, even from a relatively spoiled euro perspective your rabbit hole had certain luxuries. (own bathroom, separate sitting area!!)<br><br> in my lifetime we have moved to an acceptance of murder as a fact of life, even in the 'safe' places. its just become entertainment. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: hiding

Postby israelirealities » Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:45 am

<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>in my lifetime we have moved to an acceptance of murder as a fact of life, even in the 'safe' places. its just become entertainment<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->. <br><br>sad and true but I suspect this was always the case, in a way...<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>except the entertainment</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> part, which makes it horrible. <p></p><i></i>
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ACK! I am not a lawyer!

Postby banned » Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:39 pm

I did go to law school. Decided with very few exceptions lawyers and the scum around my toilet if I didn't clean it for a week were biochemically indistinguishable.<br><br>First thumper calls me a librul, now IR calls me a lawyer! This is not a good day. What's next, someone going to claim I voted for Nader?<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Cat Killer In West Hollywood

Postby rocco322 » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:07 pm

Don't know if you guys already caught this one but here ya go...<br><br>"If you live in LA and own cats like I do you probably have had worried nights when your kitty doesn't come home and although he or she is probably out chasing some tail you worry they are now affixed to the road thanks to a rushed or preoccupied driver. When I lived in Hollywood I never let my cat Fractal out of my apartment to roam the neighborhood except for one time and when I tried to find him the next day I heard some muffled mews coming from our parking garage and upon closer inspection I found him stuck in the engine compartment of my neighbors car, who thankfully hadn't gone anywhere that day. When I moved to Fullerton after my apartment filled up with raw sewage I let him roam the streets until one day my roommate found him squished. I was very sad, but at least it was an accidental killing, unlike this horridly fucked up news article I just read about some sick fuck mutilating cats in a neighborhood near WeHo using a machete. If you have seen anything or know anything about this there is a $1,000 reward for information leading to an arrest of the suspect."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://blogging.la/archives/2005/10/who_lets_their.phtml">blogging.la/archives/2005...heir.phtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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When I first moved to CA...

Postby banned » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:11 pm

...I lived in an area with many Asians especially Vietnamese.<br><br>I was shocked my first year there when someone told me around Tet (lunar New Year) not to let my cats out because they might disappear, because ...how to put this without seeming culturally insensitive... pussycat was a delicacy with those folks. <br><br>I later was told virtually the same thing every year in a variety of different neighborhoods: keep the felines indoors for that week.<br><br>Don't get me wrong, if they enjoy moggie stew, not a problem, so long as it isn't MY moggie in the stew.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Homeless Halo » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:40 pm

"just watched french tv news item on immigrants trying to hide at Sangat. reading books about spending time camping out is one thing....."<br><br>Well, I don't have any books on the list that involve "camping". Nor would "intellectual" knowledge suffice. But IMO it isn't nearly so difficult as it seems, we westerners just like to whine about how difficult the world is. Living outdoors with no supplies can be a picnic, and both OLD people and CHILDREN are wired to be able to do this. Hunting/Gathering would expend far less energy than our current way of living. Its likely, we'd become healthier, if we abandoned most of this stuff.<br><br>As I said before, to make sure you're ready, you should "test" it. Actually try it. Just leave for a week. Don't take any money, live out of doors. Thousands of people do this in the urban places, where I live, everday. I suppose the idea just seems foreign to some people, but it isn't as HARD as you like to make it sound...<br><br>The partial collection of literature simply serves to make it easier. (as in more easy than it was already)<br><br>I've done it before, but it was not in a "survival" sense. I was on the "vision quest" type thing. But I know personally I can live for at least twelve days with no food, supplies, shelter. I'm sure I could go longer. As I said, everyone did it for millions of years in a world with far lower life expectancies (16 was old) than exist in even the worst of today's war zones.<br><br>We have allowed ourselves to become soft. If you are comfortable this way, feel free to continue, but don't expect me to agree on how HARD it is to survive in the world. It is a matter of coveteousness, mostly, that makes it seem worse than it is.<br><br>And I wouldn't "hide" anywhere nearby. The VAST majority of this planet's surface STILL doesn't have anyone in it or watching it, especially the "wild" areas (there are places that are still uncharted on the ground, even in Eurasia), which, while not as plentiful as they used to be, are also not as dangerous for homo sapiens.<br><br>I never once suggested you get your passport and your plane tickets. If it was "them" after you, that would be silly.<br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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