More Satanic allegations from California

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downsizing

Postby jenz » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:52 am

yup, primitive is relative. in many ways we are more primitive than some societies we would call primitive - ie arguably we have traded technological advance for spiritual and emotional decline. HH I'm not scared of 'camping out', its just that this developed as an idea of escape from the baddies. well 1. not enough places for all us humble folks to run to 2. baddies will get you before you've even got your socks packed if they so intend. but I can dream too, when you're rigging up your radio shack transmitter and IR is trying to knit too short staple fibre into a woolly pullie, while humming an aria from la traviata or whatever, that steady chipping noise emanating from mouth of yonder cave is me fashioning boulders into millstones. No need to shamble over, I can read vibes. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: downsizing

Postby israelirealities » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:01 am

<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>in your description that one person missing is the food maker... or do we, by that time, get to evolve into digesting stones and metal debris ? <p></p><i></i>
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bear steaks

Postby jenz » Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:18 am

I'm sneaking up and chiselling a couple off the skinned carcass while aitchaitch has his nose in a book and you've got your needles in a twist. <p></p><i></i>
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veggies please note

Postby jenz » Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:08 am

no violence was done. bear died of shame after escaping from miserable existence in fantasies of man whose name sounds like he should be making baby milk. it left a will, that its body provide for the last humans on condition they make a millstone with a big enough hole in the middle to go round the many headed monster that grew fat on the blood of their children. banned is doiing a rain dance cum bear spirit ceremony, aitch's radio thingy has contacted astral bodies who will help lift stone and drop it place at next press conf. planned to take place on lawn of shitehouse when all birds annihilated and martial law declared. robertd and other intelligent ones are looking out a few quotes. white supremacists are shamefaced and wearing pink shirts with a forgetmenot embroidered on the breast pocket, cos they never meant it to turn out this way. God's smashed the mould and got the playdo out. <p></p><i></i>
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Neighbor Offers New Theory in Slaying

Postby rocco322 » Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:44 pm

I noticed the subject drifted into Mad Max wilderness survival, which I must admit I am sorely unprepared. <br><br>In any case, I haven't been able to let this Horowitz/Vitale/Satanic story no matter how hard Bush tries to change the subjects...<br><br>Saw this on Professor Hex's...<br><br> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> A police report made the day before Pamela Vitale was killed in her remote Hunsaker Canyon home contradicts the theory that an expected shipment of marijuana growing equipment put her in contact with her killer.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br> Buried at the bottom of the article:<br><br> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> Meanwhile, sheriff's spokesman Lee said in an e-mail Friday that the sheriff's homicide unit does not believe there is a connection between the Vitale murder and a case Moraga police are investigating involving two illegally constructed structures and a decapitated calf.<br><br> Moraga police were called to a remote piece of property off of Rheem Boulevard near St. Marys Tank Road in late September after the property owner found an elaborately constructed and furnished treehouse and shed.<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><br> A month-old calf's head had been nailed to the door of the shed. A hand saw with fur and blood was found nearby.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br> Moraga officers investigating the structures wondered if there might be a connection between the structures and Dyleski after hearing about possible satanic and cult references in the Vitale case, said Moraga police Sgt. Bob Priebe.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: newsmakingnews down?

Postby rocco322 » Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:45 pm

What happened to newsmakingnews? I only got a domain sales pitch.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: newsmakingnews down?

Postby israelirealities » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:34 pm

Thread was hijacked temporarlity by the spirits of diversion and distraction.<br>Case is getting to complex, there's really nothing to say. Perhaps this is also a diversion by Mad Max tactics...<br>that's my sense of it. the moment something meaningful was going to come out of the Polk trial, came this Dyleski thing, that pulled the rug...and turned the entire situation into such a hazy virtual horror movie, it succeeded in diluting the issue.<br>Especially all those side issues, like pot, the semi Satanic workship, the mother and her "energy DNA healing"...at this point, all the audience, much like us, was lost in confusion. Again, it all looks to unreal...very successful way to bury the Polk trial. And now the calfs...focus is lost.<br>You are on to something ... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: newsmakingnews down?

Postby robertdreed » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:39 pm

According to the message I got, the domain name "newmakingnews.com" expired 10/25/05. Either they were snoozing, or they've gone to another name. I'm expecting them to return. <p></p><i></i>
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holy wood

Postby Homeless Halo » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:06 pm

IR: whenever things get too dicey for them, they have this scenario where they make it into an excellent made-for-TV movie. By the time the string of network movies are over, no one will have ANY idea what really happened.<br><br>Happens all the time. <br><br>RE: Bearsteaks.<br><br>Bear isn't very good. I'd suggest something along the lines of rabbits. Although I could survive on squirrels if I had to, there are plenty of them, even in the city, and they're easy to cook. Tastes kind of like Dog.<br><br>There are also birds, and fish, but most of these in North America would have to be rigorously roasted to eradicate the possible pathogens, etc.<br><br>See, I have every intention of going to live in the woods anyway someday. I just don't like people that much. Probably I'd mostly eat fish. They don't have feelings.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: More Satanic allegations from California

Postby Bradley Mason Hamlin » Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:16 pm

Hello. I am Richard Hamlin's brother, Brad Hamlin. I'm glad to have come across a forum discussing this crazy situation--with eyes open. I noticed someone had wondered whether the "Open Letter" from Richard is real. It is. Everything on Richard's geocities website comes directly from Richard. I have tried to remain as impartial as possible in this case. I am interested in truth and justice--but the American way seems to be working against those ideals at the moment ... Any questions?<br><br>Brad <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=bradleymasonhamlin>Bradley Mason Hamlin</A> at: 12/12/05 10:25 pm<br></i>
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Re: Hi

Postby hmm » Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:52 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>I'm glad to have come across a forum discussing this crazy situation--with eyes open</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>i hope you and your brother take care as "this crazy situation" you describe attracts all kinds of strange people.<br>some out for fame and fortune.<br>Discussing the underlying motives of those that show up with offers of help in situations like yours is quite the topic of conversation at this forum,and elsewhere online..<br><br>my only question would be,is anyone making high quality scans of original documents and making them available online(as was done with the "case narratives").<br>you have a long road ahead of you and having published documentation can enhance safety and credibility.<br>goodluck. <p></p><i></i>
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Bradley,

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:55 pm

thanks for registering and joining the discussion at a difficult time for your family. (Am I right to presume you're <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.mysteryisland.net/BMHinterview" target="top">this</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> Bradley Mason Hamlin?)<br><br>You write that you've tried to remain impartial, suggesting you've seen no evidence that persuades you one way or the other. I'm wondering, do you have direct knowledge of anything pertaining to the case that supports Richard's allegations? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bradley,

Postby Dreams End » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:47 pm

Hello Bradley,<br><br>When you first log into the EZ Board - RI discussion list you'll see an "EZinbox" on the top right. If you have any messages, as you do now, you can click on that box and read them and respond. <br><br>If this case is true (and surely the diaries would settle that?) it's a big deal. Hope we can be of some help.<br><br>Have you seen the diary entries yourself?<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Kicking this

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:57 pm

and hoping Bradley returns. <p></p><i></i>
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Finders

Postby Dreams End » Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:44 am

I don't think there's a whole lot I can offer on this. I know a pretty good deal about the Finders, but I think they dropped that line of inquiry. I will say that what caught my eye was that Susan's dad has a house in Fresno. <br><br>If you recall, the Finders case broke when two men were arrested with several ill-cared for children who were not their own. Their mothers, also Finders members, were in Fresno "working to rasie money for New Hope" (a retirement center in Kentucky. Why Fresno? I have no idea. Petty would send them all over the place at the drop of a hat. <br><br>You'll also recall that the investigation, which unearthed what can only be called "purchase orders" for children seemingly trafficked by the group, was halted by order of CIA. The data dump has more.<br><br>I also mentioned in "killing veritas" thread (don't ask, Bradley) that Susan's claim specifically of involvement in a "Bavarian Satanic cult" was a red flag for me. This seems too pat and I have reservations about the literal existence of such a cult or even of their continued use of "Bavarian" in reference to themselves. It's been 200+ years, after all!<br><br>That's not to say there's nothing to this. Far from it. A man is in jail.<br><br>Here are the possibilities.<br><br><br>1. Richard is crazy (or a victim of some kind of mind control), got paranoid about this stuff and forced his wife to "confess" these things. Bradley says that his brother appears normal and not the "madman" he expected to find. His correspondence are very coherent and sound rational. Bradley said that Richard had no prior knowledge of this type of conspiracy, but no way to know that for sure. There is some material confirmation of the story and Susan's report to the police has many odd details that seem unlikely to be manufactured. Still, Bradley himself is an author of pretty dark short stories, so people CAN make up this kind of stuff. And if Richard was threatening her life after having beaten her, she might do so.<br><br>2. This is a hoax. Highly doubtful, given Richard's current address!<br><br>3. Susan IS the victim, but the mind control, cult stuff is actually directed by Richard and the other stuff is screen memory filler.<br><br>4. Her dad is guilty. He sure SEEMS the part, given the kinds of stories we see around here. Military/intel connections. And I think we can speculate that the details of the "cult" could simply be manufactured stories by MC sorts of projects to discredit Susan should she tell on them. <br><br>For a variety of reasons NONE of these really seems satisfying to me. I think 1 and 4 are the most likely, and I guess I don't want to accept either. In addition, there really is some corroborating stuff to Susan's ORIGINAL story. And check out her report to the police. She doesn't say, for example, just that she abused her kids, but that she was specifically desensitizing them for further sexual use by the cult. REALLY sophisticated lie, if that's what it is. <br><br>You can check out Bradley's info about his brother on his site (in case no one has posted this yet...):<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.geocities.com/richardwhamlin/">www.geocities.com/richardwhamlin/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> Be careful with Bradley's short stories. they are very violent and graphic so definitely put the kids to bed if you want to have a look at those. Think Quentin Tarantino. I haven't checked out his poetry yet. <p></p><i></i>
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