Old Hustler interviews with Cathy O'Brien,DeCamp, FMS etc.

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Old Hustler interviews with Cathy O'Brien,DeCamp, FMS etc.

Postby cortez » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:11 am

Some excerpts<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://dragonkeypress.com/blog/?page_id=779">dragonkeypress.com/blog/?page_id=779</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>...TT: So you don’t want to talk about the specific people that were involved, is that what you’re saying?<br><br>Cathy: I think that I would much rather be able to put out information on mind control, and the people involved in it, and the reality of it, and how widespread it is, so that people would be able to arm themselves with the knowledge and actually evolve with this knowledge, because knowledge is our only defense against mind control. And right now, at this point in time, it’s essential that people have this information, because it’s a key component of what’s terrorizing America and the world today. Terrorism breeds mind control. Mind control breeds terror, and people have got to have the information on mind control now more than ever. It will be able to stop the sexual abuse of children, the injustice in the courts that is perpetrated on the children, and there is so much that we’re going to be able to do when we have the information. I’m afraid it would even sidetrack people to say, “This person, that person is involved, or was involved then”, when they can be seeing today who’s involved based on a strong knowledge of mind control. Going back to one other aspect, which personally I think is so very, very important, is the use of Satanism and everything like that, because they can’t control a soul per se. When a mind is absolutely controlled, there’s no free thought, and if there’s no free thought, there’s no free will. And without free will, there’s no ability to have any soul expression. If a person doesn’t have soul expression, they can’t stand up for what they believe in, they can’t stand up for a cause, they can’t stand up for moral values, or anything like that, which I consider to be more related to soul. So it’s not that they can control the soul, but by controlling the mind, they stop the person from being able to express it. I think that shows the magnitude of mind control, and how very important it is that people know that our knowledge base is being altered, that this information is being suppressed, and people are being led and misled by a deliberate use of a form of mass mind control, which is also called “social engineering.”<br><br>TT: How would you identify someone who was actually being purposely controlled to the point where they’re almost a robot. Is there some kind of telltale sign? Can you tell if someone’s a mind-controlled slave just by looking at them, or seeing the way they act?<br><br>Cathy: I can tell it just from having been there and experienced it, and seeing how widespread it is and where it’s used and everything. I’ve learned to recognize certain characteristics or traits of mind control. For example, people under mind control rarely blink. Their eyes stay wide open. And the micro-muscles in their face don’t move properly, so they don’t have proper facial expression. They may always smile. I smiled, I think, the whole time that I was under mind control. I had a little plastic smile plastered on my face. My face looked waxy otherwise, and there was no smile in my eyes, there was no twinkle, no depth to that little smile. There are certain mannerisms that can be recognized. There’s a more rigid stance, or something that might be equated more to a militaristic stance.<br><br>TT: It seems like if you were to go to a modeling school, this is what they’re trying to teach those women to do.<br><br>Cathy: That’s what Charm School did, and everybody that I was associated with back then was being programmed alongside of me. It was like they were cranking us out so that we’d pretty much look the same. You know, people that are conditioned the same way do seem to have a certain look, or certain mannerisms about them. Politicians have a way of looking a certain way. I’m not saying that they’re programmed. It’s just their knowledge base and the way they’re conditioned. Attorneys might have a way that they talk, and a way that they’re conditioned. You know, people have different projections, and folks that have been conditioned for mind control definitely have an identifiable projection that people need to know now more than ever. We’re being told that it’s up to us to stay alert, and on guard, and watch out for potential terrorists, anyone who’s acting or looking suspicious. Well, that’s not enough information. They need to release the information on mind control so that people will know exactly what to look for, exactly what characteristics and traits to be watching for. The more people know, the better off we’re all gonna be in this effort to stop terrorism. I’ve got some insight into what mind control looks like. I’ve got insight into some of the old characteristics. For instance, the stun gun was one used so predominantly, and a stun gun leaves electric prod marks that are two inches apart. It will actually leave moles, or raised places that turn into moles eventually. They’re oftentimes located on the face, and those are so easily identifiable. I see people all the time on TV, especially in pornography magazines, that have these stun gun prod marks on them. And when we become aware of exactly what these stun gun prod marks mean, that opens our eyes to being able to recognize mind control around us as well. I think that’s another essential part. But stun guns aren’t used as much today because they’ve moved technologically ahead with harmonics and different aspects now. Stun guns are still used, and the prod marks still show up on many people who were conditioned, particularly during the years I was used robotically under MK-ULTRA.<br><br>TT: Well, they used one on JonBenet Ramsey, didn’t they? I remember the story coming out in The Enquirer, where they finally looked at the autopsy pictures, and they found these stun gun marks, two inches apart, just like you said, on her body.<br><br>Cathy: That’s why this information is so essential. The more people know, the more they’re gonna be able to ask questions, and they’re gonna start seeing it in society all around them, and in these murders, and deaths, and terror and different aspects that come in to play, they’re gonna be able to say, “Oh that’s what that is!”, and they’re gonna start recognizing it. They’re going to start noticing it in the music industry. It’s used heavily in the music industry, and certain high-level entertainers have been subjected to it. There are lawsuits that have gone on because certain entertainers are given the harmonic equipment to use in their music, which drives their lyrics further into a person’s head. If you think about it, people know that a song will bring them back to a time when they fell in love, for example, or a time when they were doing this, or doing that. Songs bring out memories because of how deep the harmonics carry into the brain. That has been fine-tuned and refined so much now that it is an essential tool. If the information on mind control were now released, people would realize that is what is causing people to take action with the lyrics that are going in their head. That’s what’s causing them to react, and carry out a murder based on having listened to this music or that. It’s not about free speech, and it’s not about the lyrics. It’s about harmonics, and that is one more key ingredient, and one more aspect of society where people need to become aware of exactly what mind control entails. Once they’re aware of it, they can critically analyze and defend themselves against it, as well as recognize it around them so that we know what a terrorist looks like, what mind control looks like, and who’s being abused, what’s the devastation that sexual abuse ultimately creates, in raising suggestibility, and how people are being manipulated, even on a mass scale, through trauma. Any time trauma occurs, suggestibility rises. So when we have trauma, like we’ve got now, with this horrible terror that occurred in the United States, people everywhere are so highly suggestible at a time like this, they need to be on guard about what information is being pumped into their head, especially if it’s repetitious. They need to shut off their TVs, they need to think for themselves, and there are different methods they can use to be able to refocus themselves, and maintain their own freedom of thought at a time when the most extensive trauma occurs. So with this information, people are actually able to strengthen, and be far more vigilant. One of our last remaining freedoms is free thought.<br><br>TT: You said in your book that part of your programming was decorating your room in red, white and blue, with American flags. Is it getting to you now that everyone has a flag?<br><br>Cathy: Well, absolutely, I was very patriotic, and I think patriotism is one thing that’s separating people from each other. This isn’t about that. Terrorism isn’t about countries. This is about individuals. This is a mind control issue, not a country issue, so if folks wanna find strength waving a flag, it’s because they don’t know the essential point and focus of what’s really happening, and that’s mind control. And once they realize that, then we’re not gonna have to take the strong divisions, either by race, country, religion, or anything else, but people can unite in peace and through love, rather than having to fight the so-called “enemy” of another country. That really isn’t what this is about at all. So again, this is such an essential ingredient to what’s happening in society today. Patriotism certainly isn’t the answer. It’s quite superficial. If people would just turn off their TVs, they’d be able to find a lot more answers than they would by going out and buying a flag.... <br><br>more here<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://dragonkeypress.com/blog/?page_id=778">dragonkeypress.com/blog/?page_id=778</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Old Hustler interviews with Cathy O'Brien,DeCamp, FMS et

Postby robertdreed » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:17 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>I’ve learned to recognize certain characteristics or traits of mind control. For example, people under mind control rarely blink. Their eyes stay wide open. And the micro-muscles in their face don’t move properly, so they don’t have proper facial expression. They may always smile.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>I think we may possibly have found the definitive explanation for the way Bob Woodward looks in his television interviews. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 2/26/06 9:19 pm<br></i>
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Re: Old Hustler interviews with Cathy O'Brien,DeCamp, FMS et

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:56 am

Remember Steve Forbes? Nary a blink...<br><br>I'm curious about this idea of using harmonics in music for mind control.<br><br>Is this babble or an inarticulate way of describing something she experienced herself?<br><br>The human ear is inclined to be soothed by some intervals and disturbed by others so maybe she was just riffing off this. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Old Hustler interviews with Cathy O'Brien,DeCamp, FMS et

Postby NewKid » Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:34 am

I had forgotten that Chandra Levy disappeared on Walpurgisnacht. <p></p><i></i>
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Cathy OBrien and co

Postby mother » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:48 am

So does anyone think those black mole thingies on Whittingham's hunting pal's face were stun gun marks? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Cathy OBrien and co

Postby Gouda » Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:39 am

Woodward, eh heh. Wolf Blitzer anyone? <br><br>Harmonics: Her "riffing" (as HMW put it) on harmonics-as-MC (beyond just selling more records) was not very clear to me - probably it is possible because music is so powerful and surely has been studied for M.C. - but as she describes it, I am left no closer to answers on that. I do have suspicions, however, about the funky places I am taken to when Michael Jackson's "Billy Jean" comes on the radio.<br><br>Certainly, there is basis in Terrorism as MC. <p></p><i></i>
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music

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Re: music

Postby Dreams End » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:40 pm

That "lawsuit" about harmonics...I'm not saying it's b.s. but it doesn't even make any sense.<br><br>The type of "harmonics" that I do know people utilize for creating altered states, a la Monroe Institute, is to have two different frequencies, one in each ear. If the spread is just right, it is alleged that this can bring on an altered state.<br><br>I hadn't thought about music as intentional trigger. Certainly a powerful way to do it..even more powerful would be a scent, but harder to do long distance!<br><br>My wife just got triggered...not sure when it started. It's the first time I've seen a part of her do something that she expressly would not have done...namely, call her mother. This young part was looking for love and affection from a mom who never provided it. I tried to explain that her mom ALSO has parts inside and some of them were NOT very nice. I don't even know for sure if she really called, but she told me she did.<br><br>Two things bugged me about this. Well, three, I guess. First off, we don't know what has triggered her, but she's been really struggling for the last couple of weeks to "maintain control". Secondly, if she really DID call, her mom, evidently did not express any surprise or confusion at receiving a call from this younger part, who talks and sounds quite different from my wife. I haven't talked to her mom, yet, but I would have expected a call from her letting me know what had happened and asking if Debbie is okay. Of course, I'm not sure she actually DID call. I haven't checked her outgoing calls on her cellphone yet. <br><br>Finally, it bugs me that here is a case where her primary personality was overruled by a part, albeit a younger one. I haven't even asked if she knows she made the call because she's at work and I don't want to freak her out. This is a small thing, but it does call to mind those stories of people continuing to contact bad people when the primary personality is trying to cut off that contact. <br><br>Again, it was to her mom, and not some guy on a military base somewhere, but it's sort of the same principal...and I actually wonder if it goes back to the Christmas present her mom sent that upset Debbie so much...the sweatshirt that said "Mom loves me best." Really triggered her. And, to be honest, given everything that's gone on..it WAS kinda creepy.<br><br>One thing that was clear this weekend, whatever horrible things Debbie went through...the thing that seems to hurt the most is the neglect. The level of sadness related to that is immense. I hope that what is going on is that she's simply allowing these feelings to come up. She seriously needs to mourn her childhood with such defective parents. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: music

Postby marykmusic » Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:11 pm

Pop music has mind control aspects, for sure.<br><br>Look at how many divas and boy groups had been Mousketeers... --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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RE Harmonics.

Postby biaothanatoi » Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:09 pm

On Christmas Eve 2004, the perps made an attempt to access my friend at work - she made it home but was highly dissociated, crying, unable to speak, etc.<br><br>Our phone starting ringing and it was silent the first few times I picked it up. On the third time, I heard this weird static-burbling noise, it sounded like a high-pitched electronic scream.<br><br>Afterwards I asked her what it was but she wasn't able to talk about it. <br><br>I presume there must be "levels" of effectiveness in terms of triggering her over the phone - start at a baseline with incessant ringing, then use threats, then trigger words, and then (again, presumably) this electrical scream? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RE Harmonics.

Postby Dreams End » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:24 pm

We got fax calls...and that description fits them. People spam by fax so that you can get their "hot deals" first thing in the morning. When you pick up a fax call or a call from someone's computer modem, it sounds like that.<br><br>Still, such sounds were reported way before faxes and phone modems. I believe something similar was noted in the "mothman prophecies" stuff...<br><br>We were getting these calls at night but they were coming in on a second line...not a real second line but a deal from the phone company where you have a separate phone number on the same phone number that rings twice instead of once so that you know who it's for. We don't use it and don't answer the line.<br><br>It was at 4 in the morning for several nights in a row. But the caller id always says unknown name, as a commercial spammer's might. so, while it was a bit creepy, I think the fax idea is probably right.<br><br>I haven't seen my wife in person yet today...she just got home. Didn't remember the calls and is freaked out about it. <br><br>More later. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RE Harmonics.

Postby Project Willow » Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:13 am

They did programming with tones. I have gotten tone phone calls.<br><br>I don't know if the tones were harmonic in nature. They sounded computer generated, they are in a normal frequency range. They remind me of the old hearing tests when you would hear a single drawn out tone. I don't see the point of embedding them in music unless they managed to coordinate the triggered behaviors in different victims.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RE Harmonics.

Postby cortez » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:15 am

I always thought something looked a little strange about Laura Bush (who knows)<br><br>As for Harmonics it would explain why Britney Spears lyrics seem to stick in my head even though I can't stand the music, boy-bands have also fallen into this category. <br><br>-----<br><br>On a sidenote I have uploaded Mind Control Out of Control to<br>YouTube.<br><br>click this link<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYtXwoTw4hc">Mind Control Out of Control:Cathy O'Brien 1996</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Mourning childhood

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:38 am

DE, sorry to hear of the trauma you are sharing with your wife.<br>Family is the frontline for the soul, isn't it?<br><br>A principle of psychological warfare is that it is far more disturbing to be 'betrayed' by an ally than by a known enemy who we expect it from.<br><br>(I learned lots by reading about cointelpro and CIA/Pentagon psy-ops manuals online. It explains all too much of our fabricated popular culture, the 'music bed' of politics laid down by the Mighty Wurlitzer.)<br><br>This must be an extension of the childhood need for parental affirmation to feel 'welcome' in the world with that sanction to succeed and survive. I've taken to calling this morale indicator the 'optimism imperative.' <br><br>I'm always amazed to hear someone belittle the seriousness of childhood developmental psychology by scoffing "sure, it's all mom's fault." Usually this is from someone over 60. Perhaps there was an overexposure to this as a dramatic device in film or something for older people. <br><br>There is an enormous gap between those with emotional intelligence and those who just wing it. This gap has been terribly exploited as a tool of governance.<br><br>Your wife is fortunate to have you as an ally. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Mourning childhood

Postby NewKid » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:45 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I learned lots by reading about cointelpro and CIA/Pentagon psy-ops manuals online. It explains all too much of our fabricated popular culture, the 'music bed' of politics laid down by the Mighty Wurlitzer.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>any good links or sites that collect these? <p></p><i></i>
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