Has anyone seen this info on the Monarch Program before?

by **GDN01** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:29 pm

This website details the methods used in the Monarch Program. Supposedly, it has been written and made available on the internet to help people "deprogram". Has anyone come across this before, and the authors - Cisco Wheeler and Fritz Springmeier. It is hosted on <a href="http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/illuminati_formula_mind_control.htm">The Forbidden Knowledge</a> website and titled "The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave" People with DID and sruvivors of MKUltra are cautioned against reading the material. I've just skimmed it myself - tons of information there.

by **Floyd Smoots** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:42 pm

....GDN01, I have read quite a bit of the commentary at that site. Many have disparaged Mr. Springmeier's past links with lesser respected folk, and supposedly, he is even now serving a prison term for "bank robbery"(?), I think. However, I found his biography of Walt Disney, the Disney family, Disney Empire, and its current rulers/controllers, links to many, many questionable, mafioso, occultic families, etc., to be Most Interesting reading. It seems well-documented, but with the "Ministry of Truth" in charge of things historical these days, who can say??? I have had that very article bookmarked, because, it takes a long, long time to read through all of it. Some of it has the ring of truth to an ignoramus like me, because, tho' my last ex-wife was a victim of stepfather sexual abuse from ages eleven to seventeen, I had NEVER Even HEARD of RA/SRA until I actually discovered this board here. Therefore, I am merely learning for the first time, what far too many of you here actually had to live through, and survive! He HAS, been disparaged & discredited by many, with somewhat apparent good reason. All I can say is that his body of work, as displayed on that site is fascinatingly Horrifying! Old Floyd

by **StarmanSkye** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:05 pm

Heyia GDNO1; I've run-across references to this work now-and-again, but haven't looked at deeply -- I was somewhat put-off by Springmeier's rather-incredible thesis that global events and world history have been influenced and controlled to an inordinate extent by these 13 major (and several minor) family bloodlines with heavy Satanic/occult involvement. I think I may even have posted a comment/link here on RI re: Springmeier/Wheeler's book 'Illuminati Formula' which as I recall didn't elicit much response. While I found the detail about these bloodline-families and their links to historical economic/political/social events to be quite intriguing, I was leery about buying-into what might be an elaborate disinfo or psyops hoax. I suppose I was partly discouraged from greater study by RI discussion that pointed-out implausability of the Illuminati conspiracy extending over centuries. However -- Further understanding of how Intelligence services have served elite financial interests during the past 100+ years and the recurring leit motif of Mind Control as an instrument of covert black ops both tend to affirm core tenets Springmeier explores --and exposes. So I am rethinking my initial opinion re: Springmeier's credibility and the info he presents on Mind Control. While I still find the whole subject of Mind Control extremely troubling and offputting, I think it's importance as a feature of the modern military-corporate criminal/political complex driving globalization on behalf of a One World Government plutocracy makes its study necessary, if not vital, to a comprehensive critique of the PTB. In following-up reading on just WHO Springmeier is and why he's such a controversial figure, I found the following links and articles --esp. noteable is Fritzmeier's explanation of what apparently is a transparent frame-up by the Fed Stormtroopers to discredit him and his work -- Now WHY would they do so if he was just a crackpot peddling an absurd theory? Hmmmm ... Thanks fer the Heads-uP! Starman ****** Springmeier Interview with Wayne Morris, CKLN fm 88.1 International Connection, Ryerson Polytechnical University Toronto, Canada; January 4, 1998 <a href="http://www.whale.to/b/sp/springmeier1.html">www.whale.to/b/sp/springmeier1.html</a> Related: Interview with author Don Gilmor re: Mind Control Series, Program 27 re: Dr. Pivnicki, Cameron, cover-up, etc. <a href="http://www.whale.to/b/gillmor.html">www.whale.to/b/gillmor.html</a> Mirrored: <a href="http://mindcontrolforums.com/radio/ckln27.htm">mindcontrolforums.com/radio/ckln27.htm</a> * www.Whale.to/ index of articles, links re: Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler: <a href="http://www.whale.to/b/sp/springmeier_h.html">www.whale.to/b/sp/springmeier_h.html</a> * <a href="http://www.cephas-library.com/martyrs/martyrs_conspiracy_but_whose.html">www.cephas-library.com/ma...whose.html</a> THE FATE OF FRITZ-THE FRAMING OF A PATRIOT Even while writing this book, Fritz Springmeier dropped hints that he was being followed and having his phone tapped. One person who agreed on phone to meet with him and inform him of some inside details about the Illuminati was found dead the next day. David Hill, a researcher who was treading the same subject was actually murdered when he decided to confront Masonist christian leader Billy Graham on his alleged involvement with the Illuminati. Another friend of Springmeier and ex-Illuminati John Todd was framed for multiple rapes and sent to prison where there was an attempt to murder him through an inmate. Rumour is that he has been killed too. On March 1st 2001, FBI and ATF teams raided his Oregon farmhouse and arrested him and his wife, after planting drugs, rascist literature and weapons in his home. Let me remind you that Fritz is a research scholar and only deals with books. In the process of the arrest, all his research material was confiscated and destroyed.The media played a key part in cooking the story, making Fritz look like a terrorist. Since that was not enough to detain Fritz and the charges were proven to be false, a Federal agent posed as a friend to Fritz and later tried framing him claiming Fritz had asked him to kill a police officer! Since that charge proved a fabrication, Fritz was instead framed for ARMED BANK ROBBERY! to which he pleaded not guilty. On 9th February 2003, Fritz gave an interview to the Alex Jones Radio show in which he hinted that it could be his last interview......they were trying to frame him for life imprisonment. (Listen) <<a href="http://www.propagandamatrix.com/headlines_09_02_03.htm>">www.propagandamatrix.com/...02_03.htm></a> Next, we hear that Fritz has lost the case and has been dragged into prison for a crime he didnt commit! In prison, an inmate makes an attempt on Fritz's life but Fritz manages to survive. Clearly this was an attempt to silence Fritz for good. With the help of generous donations and support, Fritz's wife managed to get him an attorney who managed to get Fritz out of prison and drop many of the charges. To get him back in jail and to put an end to his research activities, a new charge of "planning a terrorist assault" against a Federal building, FBI offices and KATU news studios was put against Springmeier on Nov 13th,03. KATU news, an affiliate of ABC had a major role in publicising this slander againt Fritz. (See KATU News report) <<a href="http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=62438>">www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=62438></a> The news report claimed that several assault rifles etc were seized but fails to mention that all questionable items were not seized from Springmeier but from the property of a certain Tony Huntington, who was in league with the undercover Fed who befriended Springmeier.(See rebuttal to the News report by his wife) <<a href="http://www.pentracks.com/rebutt/rebuttal.htm>">www.pentracks.com/rebutt/rebuttal.htm></a> This time, Fritz Springmier has been really swallowed by the beast and its hard to tell whether he will ever be freed, let alone continue his research, write articles or make speeches. During his earlier times in jail, Fritz Springmeier would churn out weekly articles for his devout fans,which would be published here <<a href="http://poweredbychrist.homestead.com/Springmeier.html>butthis">poweredbychrist.homestead...ml>butthis</a> time, there is no article or word from him. The fate of Fritz sounds rather ominous, but it betrays one fact: The extent to which activities have been undertaken to frame him and silence him only reflects the extent to which his book has shaken the Illuminati. View regularly updated info on the frame up of Fritz here..... <a href="http://www.libertyforum.org/favlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=16056&F_Board=news_constitution&Thread=911983&partnumber=1&postmarker=">www.libertyforum.org/favl...ostmarker=</a> (dead link?) ***** Fritz Springmeier responds re: his evident frame-up an 2001 by the Feds and vilification by MSM, reported by Icke in below-cited link. THIS sure fits a sinister profile of how the Kleptocratic Empire discredits those who are a thorn in their side by their campaign of discovering and publicizing the Truth -- IMO, this response goes a LONG way to affirming Fritz's credibility -- or why would the Feds have gone to such lengths to portray Fritz as a Racist, drug-peddling White Supremist gun-nut? His 2003 frame-up re: conspiracy to commit armed-robbery and manufacture/use of bombs follows the same script. <a href="http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:eLO2PsZYqZkJ:www.davidicke.net/newsroom/america/usa/030501a.html+Fritz+Springmeier,+arrest&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3">64.233.179.104/search?q=c...=clnk&cd=3</a> (original David Icke link unavailable -- above url is a cached copy of an Icke post; See link for media's arrest-report and Icke's comment, only Fritz's comments reposted below [for bandwidth economy] --S) --quote-- Date sent: 4 Mar 2001 19:14:36 MST From: patty springmeier To: ForDavid@davidicke.com Subject: Urgent news from Fritz Springmeier Dear David Icke, My newlywed wife, Patty, and I recently had the privilege to once again join the ranks of those who are suffering to fight an evil system. At 9:15, on March 1, 2001, SWAT team storm troopers, ATF & FBI agents did a military style assault on our peaceful & beautiful rural home nestled in the spectacular beauty of the woods below Mt. Hood, OR. We had two .22 rifles, a shotgun, a pistol, and two functional but obvious hunting rifles (one being a 3 round SKS made for hunting, the other being a bolt action Mauser). The guns were all legal. The news made it sound like we had an arsenal to arm an army. The TV networks showed film from their files, which depict seized arsenals while simultaneously talking about us in the news. This clearly and flagrantly misrepresented what was seized. This silly lies convinced some viewers we were indeed terrorists. Some people have told us they were sharp enough to catch the subscript saying it was a 'file film'. Some were also sharp enough to realize if we were the dangerous terrorists that the news media portrayed us as, then why were we released on our own recognizance a few hours after going to jail? My wife and I were arrested after being handcuffed for six hours. We have not been formally charged with anything, but we had $1400 stolen in the raid, and all 4 of our computers were seized (which I use to write exposés of the system, & Patty uses for web site design). Many other items were seized including articles and books about Judaism (obviously in an effort to prove we are neo-Nazis). The news media has tried to portray us as terrorists and neo-Nazis. Their stories were exceptionally biased, unfactual, and said nothing positive about who we are, or what we have done over the years. My wife and I have enjoyed the positive comments by local people who were not fooled by the establishment media’s propaganda. They claim we were growing pot. We were not. They found evidence (a bud of marijuana) in one room that my wife and I know they planted. Even though we may hate the evil of this system, we need to continue to have compassion and pity on those who are not able to rise above compliant servitude to an evil system. They try to make us out to be terrorists, but who tried to terrorize my wife and I with a military style assault by firing stun grenades and destroying our front door to serve a search warrant? They want to portray us as stupid bigots, meanwhile they automatically profile us as neo-Nazis and anti-Semites because we fight the tyranny of the New World Order. Several days before the assault, a Fed agent posing as a reporter barged onto our property in an obnoxious way with a bouncer type friend he claimed was his bodyguard. He said that we’d been fingered as militia leaders by someone the Feds arrested last year. He said I could give my side of things on this 'informant’s' accusations by going on a radio show. That radio show happens to be very politically correct and pro-New World Order while pretending to be investigative reporting. I answered, 'I have nothing to explain.' He also kept asking questions like, 'When did you buy this house?' and 'How much equity is in your house?' Strange questions for a reporter. Several days later, the motivation behind these questions became clear, when the Feds began interrogating my wife and I. The most important thing for these Feds during their interrogation of us was if there was equity in our house, so that they could legally loot (which is called 'forfeiture') our property. They don’t want to pay the international bankers the value of a house they seize; they like one with equity. These vultures were salivating as they asked these questions. I could almost see dollar signs in their eyes. And this is what they were really desiring: to storm into someone’s house and loot their assets, which they get to keep. They took $1400 out of my wallet. Their case against us that we grew marijuana seems cut and dried; they 'found' some, and found equipment consistent with growing marijuana including plant food. It is clear they plan to isolate us, smear our reputations, seize our assets, and add us to their business of creating inmates for the prison industry. We look forward to hearing from those who have enjoyed my research and supported my work to expose Big Brother’s agendas, corruption, and tyranny. We look forward to receiving your prayers and financial support. If you want to see a good movie showing how the system can take down a person watch 'Enemy of the State'. They take a grain of truth and distort it. For instance, John Quinn of Newshawk website is already rebroadcasting the system’s baloney news stories about us. He quotes the news, which says we are 'white supremacists'. You would think honest people would want some documentation, but they love to slander whoever they don’t like, while claiming people like me write theories. Some of the wildest 'conspiracy theories' are coming from people like John Quinn, who is wildly slandering an honest researcher, and wildly proclaiming all kinds of connections between my wife & I and terrorist groups. If those of us who love the truth, and love freedom don’t hang together, we will hang separately. We could use your help. I will give my thanks ahead of time to all those who will help us. Fritz Springmeier, author/ lecturer 2870 NE Hogan Rd., E135 Gresham, OR 97030 springmeierpatty@usa.net

by **GDN01** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:31 pm

Thanks Star and Floyd - the name seemed familiar but I couldn't remember his story. Star, I agree that the focus on the illuminati is hard to get on board with. And the religious overtones, as well for me. But the info itself seems very credible and comprehensive. I've only looked through the first 5 chapters but it was this info on hypnotism that caught my eye. I had never heard that Cecil Rhodes of the scholars program is a Mason and that this is possibly a recruiting effort. Is this news to anyone else? This chapter also points to the use of mind control by the military. <a href="http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/if_chapter4.htm">Chapter 4 </a> B. How To Program With Hypnosis George Estabrooks was the first major hypnotist to publicly recognize the potential for hypnosis. He contacted MI-6 and other military and intelligence groups in hopes he could interest them in the military-intelligence potentials of hypnosis. What was George Estabrook's connection to the Illuminati? George Estabrooks was a Rhodes Scholar, which is an entry-level group for the Illuminati. For those who havenâ€™t studied this, it would be appropriate to give a brief explanation of these things. The Illuminati in 1919 created the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA). The Astor Illuminati family were major financial backers of the RIIA. Waldorf Astor was appointed to the RIIA. The American equivalent to the RIIA is the CFR. The RIIA and CFR set up Round Table Groups (based on the King Arthur myths) which were initially named by Cecil Rhodes "Association of Helpers". High ranking Mason/Illuminatus Cecil Rhodes also created the Rhodes Scholarship to bring select men from several the English speaking world and Germany to learn how to bring in the One World Government that the Illuminati has long had planned. The Cliveden Estate of the Cliveden Astor's (of the Illuminati) has played an important role in the preparation of Rhodes Scholars. Bill Clinton and Fred Franz, the late president of the Watchtower Society [MELCHIZEDEK ELDERS], are two examples of men selected for Rhodes Scholarships. Bill Clinton went through the program. However, Franz decided not to go to London in order to help lead C.T. Russellâ€™s cult as "oracle" after WT Pres. C.T. Russell was ritually killed on Halloween, 1916 and his remains buried under a pyramid. He later served as President himself from 1977-1994. The Watchtower Society leadership is a front for a part of the Illuminati which practices Enochian Magic. The power of Enochian magic is the Watchtowers. A powerful part of Bethel headquarter workers are Multiple Personalities, and have cult alters who speak in Enochian. Some multiples work in the art department and have been secretly placing hidden occult symbology into Watchtower & Awake! magazines. Now back to Estabrooks, who was also himself part of the Illuminati. In his book Hypnotism, which came out in 1946, he wrote in his chapter "Hypnotism in Warfare" (again bear in mind that Estabrooks writes this in 1946 and has been advocating what he writes for perhaps the 15 previous years!) This chapter is not taken from a mystery novel. The facts and the ideas presented are, so to speak, too true to be good, but no psychologist of standing would deny the validity of the basic ideas involved. He might, of course, be somewhat startled at our proposed use of these basic ideas and techniques, for he has never given this matter much thought.... The use of hypnotism in warfare represents the cloak and dagger idea at its best--or worst. Even if we did know the answers to some of the weird proposals in this chapter, those answers could never be given for obvious reasons. The reader must use his imagination for specific outcomes in specific cases have not been made public--probably never will be made public. Any topflight physicist is familiar with the basic laws of atomic fission and he is quite free to discuss those laws. But he may or may not know what is happening on some government research project in this field. If he does know, he is not shouting it from the housetops, probably not even whispering it to his best friend. The same applies to hypnotism in the field of warfare. Our interest here lies in some of the more unfamiliar sides of hypnotism which may make it of use in warfare. Again, no psychologist would deny the existence of such phenomena.... The only possible way of determining whether or not a subject will commit a murder in hypnotism is literally to have him commit one.... But warfare...undoubtedly will, answer many of these questions. A nation fighting with its back to the wall is not worried over the niceties of ethics [like Nazi Germany]. If hypnotism can be used to advantage, we may rest assured that it will be so employed. Any "accidents" which may occur during the experiments will simply be charged to profit and loss, a very trifling portion of that enormous wastage in human life which is part and parcel of war.... One in every five adult humans can be thrown into the hypnotic trance--somnambulism--of which they will have no memory whatsoever when they awaken. From the military viewpoint there are a few facts which are of great interest. Can this prospective subject, --this one-in-five" individual--be hypnotized against his will? Obviously, no prisoner of war will be co-operative if he knows that the hypnotist is looking for military information, nor will any ordinary citizen if he suspects that the operator will use him to blow up a munitions plant. The answer to this very vital question is "yes", though we prefer to say "without his consent" instead of "against his will." We do not need the subjectâ€™s consent when we wish to hypnotize him, for we use a disguised" technique.

by **Floyd Smoots** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:36 pm

Brother resistor, I couldn't WAIT to read to the end of your post, to weigh in here and tell you that you have raised YOUR STOCK, to me, in what you say here, but REALLY RAISED my opinions of poor brother Dr. Springmeier!!! May GOD have Mercy on His Body And SOUL!!!!!!!!....Leaving now to finish your post........

by **Floyd Smoots** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:18 pm

GDN01, thanks, for that most excellent "snip" from the aforementioned website!!! Now, a few words, if I may, about Plagarism from the Holy Bible. Melchizdek was a "mysterious priest" mentioned in Genesis to whom Patriarch Abraham gave worship and "gifts of tithes". Most current Bible scholars believe him to be a "manifestation" of the pre-incarnate Christ, Jesus. Enoch, is described, also in Genesis, as "a man who walked with God", and was said to be the first one "not to die", but, because his fellowship pleased almighty God so much that, "one day, God took him". Watchtowers, watchmen, and remaining Awake to spiritual matters, is scattered throughout the Bible. Bethel (Beth El), in Hebrew means literally, "House of God". It smells to me like the illumi-NOT-i, have been using names & terms from the Holy Bible for more years than I have lived, in order to mislead, discredit, and otherwise disparage ANYONE who might be stupid and non-illuminated enough to actually believe that there just MIGHT be some truth left in that "battered ol' Bible". You've read it before from me, but you'll all read it again: It's just MY opinion, I could be Right!!! No Quarter Asked, No Quarter Given (to the PTB), Freedom-blogger, Floyd (spelling edits only, 'cause I don't use spillchik) Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=floydsmoots>Floyd Smoots</A> at: 2/21/06 8:24 pm

by **biaothanatoi** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:38 am

We've had fairly extensive discussions on Springmeier on this board during this year. He's not kosher. His theory about the "Illuminati" pre-dates his involvement with ritual abuse. When he came across survivors courtesy of extreme right-wing Christian ministries, he just slotted RA into his existing framework of world domination. The Illuminati were already responsible for feminism, gay rights, civil rights and anything else that Fritz objected to, so, by his reckoning, they would have to be responsible for ritual abuse as well. The evidence against Springmeier in his arrests is considerable and the links posted above are spurious. Yes, he came across real information about MC and RA, but then he packed it within his rightwing religious agenda and distributed it around the world courtesy of deliverance ministries everywhere, who lapped it up. GDN01, I dated and lived with a Rhodes scholar for a few years and count a number amongst my friends. The cabal that I noticed at Oxford was decidedly pink in orientation, rather then masonic, but maybe I missed out on the secret handshakes or something. In short, it's very likely that Springmeier suffers from a paranoid or schizoid disorder, and the protestations of his innocence come from a very narrow set of sources and they don't stretch very far. I wouldn't take any of his ramblings as jumping off points for inquiry.

by **GDN01** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:10 am

Bia - when I first started this thread, I was wondering if this "book" on the net was intended, as stated, to be a resource for people trying to "deprogram" survivors, or if it was a "how to" resource. As I stated earlier, all the illuminati talk seems over done to me - but the more I've read, the description and explanations have seemed plausible. The description of the system, and the different ways they are created has given me a lot of food for thought, especially the information on structures of DID <a href="http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/if_chapter7.htm">from chapter 7</a>: When building a system, the Programmers take advantage of their knowledge of how multiplicity works. Two alters can have several possible relationships which are: a. two-way amnesia, where neither alter knows about the other’s existence. This is what the Programmers want for most alters. They don’t want multiples to even know they are multiples. b. one-way amnesia, where A alter knows B alter, but B doesn’t know A. This can be accomplished by setting in one-way mirrors. c. co-presence, two alters can come on top of each other at the front of the mind and hold the body together. This produces some strange behavior for the multiple as different alters synthesize their thoughts. When a tough alter comes up behind a Christian alter, the Christian alter may find himself letting loose of a cuss word without knowing where exactly it came from. When a child alter comes up behind an adult, the adult may find itself talking like a child. d. co-conscious, this is when two alters are aware of what each other is thinking. And this part of chapter 2 was very disturbing - has this been cofirmed by any other MKUltra research or testimony? The Initial Splites and Initial Programming Done At China Lake, CA. The primary or initial torture for many children in western U.S. was done at China Lake which officially has gone under the designations Naval Ordinance Test Station (pronounced in short as NOTS), Naval Weapons Center, NWC, Ridgecrest (the town nearby), and Inyo-kern (the area).The address of Nimitz Hospital is the code "232 Naval Air Weapons Station". The base was set up to test "new weapons". Evidently, the Navy decided that mind controlled people were an important weapon to test. Most of the "new weapons" created at China Lake were for the most part human robots turned out in large numbers. The Monarch Mind Control was carried out in large airplane hangers on the base which have been able to house thousands of tiny cages just large enough for human babies. Lots of 1,000 babies was a small batch. According to people who worked in the hangers helping program, many batches were 2,000 or 3,000 babies. Many survivors remember the thousands of cages housing little children from ceiling to floor. The cages were hot wired (electrified on the ceiling, bottom and sides) so that the children who are locked inside can receive horrific electric shocks to their bodies to groom their minds to split into multiple personalities. These cages are called Woodpecker Grids. The victim sees a flash of light when high D.C. voltage is applied. Later, this flash of light is used with hypnotic induction to make the person think they are going into another dimension when they are blasted "with high voltage. In the Peter Pan programming, the Programmers tell the slaves that this is riding the light."<a href="http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/if_chapter2.htm">chapter 2</a>

by **pugzleyca3** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:48 am

Awhile back I was doing some research on drug smuggling and I came across this batch of weird articles. May have absolutely nothing to do with this, but I was reading the book you posted on mind control and when I saw China Lake mentioned it kept bugging me until I looked it up and here it is. Take it for what it's worth, maybe nothing at all: <A href=http://www.militarycorruption.com/traylor3.htm> CHINA LAKE MURDER/SUICIDE ARTICLE </A> At the bottom of the link are more links about this.

by **GDN01** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:49 am

that <a href="http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon02.htm">provides a description </a>of MKUltra and the Monarch Program that is less material to read, and not as focused on the Illuminati. However, this site still refers to the Illuminati, but in a more reasonable way. I'm not sure whether I believe in this elite group or not, but this is more believable than most descriptions I've read. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>A Brief History of Control The Mystery Religions of ancient Egypt, Greece, India and Babylon helped lay the foundation for occultism, meaning "hidden knowledge." One of the earliest writings giving reference to occultism is the Egyptian Book of the Dead, a compilation of rituals explicitly describing methods of torture and intimidation (to create trauma), the use of potions (drugs) and the casting of spells (hypnotism), ultimately resulting in the total enslavement of the initiate.[1] These have been the main ingredients for a part of occultism known as Satanism, throughout the ages. During the 13th Century, the Roman Catholic church increased and solidified its dominion throughout Europe with the infamous Inquisition. Satanism survived this period of persecution, deeply entrenching itself under the veil of various esoteric groups. In 1776, a Bavarian Jesuit by the name of Adam Weishaupt was commissioned by the House of Rothschild to centralize the power base of the Mystery Religions into what is commonly known as the Illuminati, meaning "Enlightened Ones." This was an amalgamation of powerful occultic bloodlines, elite secret societies and influential Masonic fraternities, with the desire to construct the framework for a "New World Order." The outward goal of this Utopia was to bring forth universal happiness to the human race. However, their underlying intention was to gradually increase control over the masses, thus becoming masters of the planet. The Anglo Alliance By the 19th century, Great Britain and Germany were recognized as the primary geographic areas of Illuminati control. It then should be of little surprise to know the first work in Behavioral Science research was established in England in 1882, while much of the early medical and psychiatric techniques involved in mind control were pioneered at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany. The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was set up in London in 1921 to study the "breaking point" of humans. Kurt Lewin, a German psychologist, became the director of the Tavistock Institute in 1932, about the same time Nazi Germany was increasing its research into neuropsychology, parapsychology and multi-generational occultism. Interestingly, a progressive exchange of scientific ideas was taking place between England and Germany, most notably in the field of eugenics: the movement devoted to "improving" the human species through the control of hereditary factors in mating. The nefariously enigmatic union between the two countries was bonded, partly through the Order of the Golden Dawn, a secret society which consisted of many high ranking officials in the Nazi party and British aristocracy. Top SS Nazi officer Heinrich Himmler, was in charge of a scientific project called Lebersborn, which included selective breeding and adoption of children, a peculiarly large number of twins among them.[2] The purpose of the program was to create a super-race (Aryans) who would have total allegiance to the cause of the Third Reich (New World Order). Much of the preliminary experimentation concerning genetic engineering and behavior modification was conducted by Dr. Josef Mengele at Auschwitz, where he coldly analyzed the effects of trauma-bonding, eye-coloring and "twinning" upon his victims. Besides the insidious surgical experimentation performed at the concentration camp, some of the children were subjected to massive amounts of electroshock. Sadly, many of them did not survive the brutality. Concurrently, "brain-washing" was carried out on inmates at Dachau, who were placed under hypnosis and given the hallucinogenic drug mescaline. During the war, parallel behavioral research was led by Dr. George Estabrooks of Colgate University. His involvement with the Army, CID, FBI and other agencies remains shrouded in secrecy. However, Estabrooks would occasionally "slip" and discuss his work involving the creation of hypno-programmed couriers and hypnotically-induced split personalities.[3] After WWII, the U.S. Department of Defense secretly imported many of the top German Nazi and Italian Fascist scientists and spies into the United States via South America and the Vatican. The code name for this operation was Project PAPERCLIP.[4] One of the more prominent finds for the U.S. was German General Reinhard Gehlen. Hitler’s Chief of Intelligence against Russia. Upon arriving in Washington D.C. in 1945, Gehlen met extensively with President Truman, General William "Wild Bill" Donovan, Director of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and Allen Dulles, who would later become the stalwart head of the CIA. The objective of their brain-storming sessions was to reorganize the nominal American intelligence operation, transforming it into a highly-efficient covert organization. The culmination of their efforts produced the Central Intelligence Group in 1946, renamed the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in 1947. Reinhard Gehlen also had profound influence in helping to create the National Security Council, from which the National Security Act of 1947 was derived. This particular piece of legislation was implemented to protect an unconscionable number of illegal government activities, including clandestine mind control programs. <hr></blockquote>

by **GDN01** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:06 am

that is interesting pugzleyca - the second website I linked to also mentions China Lake as one of the locations for programming. I wonder if MKUltra and Monarch were shut down in the 70's like the CIA claims, or if there are still active programs today. With all the advances in technology, I wonder if the techniques have changed, too.

by **pugzleyca3** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:23 am

I am sure once they start doing something they never really stop. Do you really think they wouldn't take it to the nth degree? I certainly do, the project is too valuable (to powermongers like them) to just hang it up. They probably renamed it, sunk deeper under the radar screen and are having a good ole time with it. What really was strange about this batch of articles, I don't know if you saw it or not, but it was requesting people who knew anything about the sex trade to come forward, too. And that goes hand in hand with the mind control issue from all I have read about it. I am in the process of reading Trance-Formation of America, have you read that book? I'm not very far into it, but so far, it sure seems to go hand in hand with much of what is being described in the first online book you posted. It's kind of strange that these people who wrote this are still alive, but I guess becoming visible is one way of surviving in a situation like this. As far as what the purpose of the first book you posted is, being on line, I often have to wonder how things manage to STAY on the net if they are true and are damaging to the ptb. It would be a small feat for them to make it disappear, wouldn't it? Or maybe that's what all this new legislation regarding the internet is supposed to take care of, to shield "them". Sometimes I am so darned confused about all this I just don't know what to do. Maybe it's because there are many different factions of people doing things and they are not all as well-connected as I think they are.

by **Project Willow** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:08 am

Monarch-like programs are still active, (there is justifiable debate on the name Monarch itself) and all the more effective due to advanced technology. They've been doing this for decades and have had plenty of time to perfect it. Often when a survivor enters therapy and tries to deprogram, they monitor that and attempt to design ways to stop it. Unfortunately, I imagine a much smaller percentage of people younger than me getting free. (ok, too mad at that thought for words....) I'm still working on getting to the source of the usage of the term Illiminati among the survivor population. I'm not sure what it means yet. I dont' have any specific memories myself of people using that term, either in the family, within the cult, or among the few elite to whom I was exposed. It's an open question at this point. What I don't find believable is the idea that centuries-long conspiracies and belief systems remain unchanged, even within cults. But, as always, I could be wrong. pugzleyca3... many of us are alive, there are too many to kill, tens of thousands. Not everyone has gone public of course, but you are right, it probably helps in some way. It would be too obvious. It might make our claims more credible if we start dropping like flies. That's the somewhat comforting theory.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"> There are some threads on the board about Springmeier, my apologies for not being able to link them. edited to reflect emotion experienced upon writing response. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=projectwillow@rigorousintuition>Project Willow</A> at: 2/22/06 4:10 am

by **DavidMartinez** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:10 am

The volume 2 book Deeper Insights Into The Illuminati Formula is more for help. The second half of the book is written by Cisco and is all about helping survivors. I am sure its online somewhere also.

by **havanagila** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:37 am

The thread on Springmeyer has all the arguments and its worth reading. My take on it was that FOR SURVIVORS this is initially a helpful reading, in the sense of verbalizing the complex inner working a programmed mind. This is first stage, and then, later comes the ability to sort the crap out, which I describe as the political/theological components. This was the same sort of argument re the role of churches in treating and hosting victims of MC/SRA. I think this all points to the same conclusion. You can't fight Springmeyer or the Churches, rather you must provide for alternative information and help for victims. You cannot expect a victim who I think can best be described as a drowning person, to be very choosy and picky in the kind of ropes and life savers thrown at him to the gushing waters. I met Springmeyers' materials long after becoming conscious, reading tons of MK Ultra stuff, STILL it had a very beneficial effect on me MIXED with a very poisonous component. It is like a medicine with some long term very dangerous side effects. And I had the same conclusion on the period I spent under the auspices of a fanatic Jewish Rabbi. I held on to those bad medicines, cause really there was nothing else around. The other, better stuff is very expensive and hard to find. Plus, at a certain stage, an MC survivor will have deep distrust in all mental health professional, especially psychiatrists who are major part of the perps ! -- I wouldn't lay all the complexity of the negative side right now, but offer better texts, if you think they exist. Bluebird is good, and Sullivan is doing the job too. A person who was a victim desperately needs validation and external verbalization of the mess inside the brains. So only victims can provide that, if they are willing to go into reconstruction of their former state of mind, while they were still ":there", locked in the closed circuit of the programs with no way out. even sullivan is already speaking from her current, healed mind, and certainly research is talking more about the abusers state of mind than the victims'. Other texts that have such resonating effect are even worse than springemeyr, these are various mystical books like Kabbala (and I am sure crowly crap as well )because they talk about those things AS IF they exist, and that's how the MC mindset is working, while still under the influene. Mythical materials, rationalizations, bizarre connections, something like an account of a psychotic person, but in fact it holds the key to the program and to external reality. Quite complex. -- I wrote down large segments of 'real time" programmed free association material, I have about 150 pages in Hebrew. I think that if a victim reads them, with a proper preface (narrator is alread sane/free, and this and that happened), it might be very liberating. But such material is rarely printed, perhaps I could add a the "frame" story, and send it, I never tried. Also, writing the 'explanation' is a big nut to crack, as we know. -- So, at the time being if I were to give advice at all, I'd say to a victim who is now coming out of the "sleep" to read anything that helps them verablize. But make strong caveats that they should give themselves a lot of TIME, and remind them to engage their "other mind", the external, critical, faculties while reading it. Namely, not to identify exclusively with the untouched sub-conscious, even if they feel a strong urge to dive and sink in those waters. But certanily, I would not cricitize anyone who for a while feels connected to these Illuminati materials. LAter they can find out that deprogramming has its own pitfalls and liars. recovery is along the lines of denial(split) - awareness (surprise and collapse of the conscious self) - integration. You can't skip stages.

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