Jackson family abuse (Michael given to businessmen?)

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Jackson family abuse (Michael given to businessmen?)

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:54 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Creepy dad was root of all clan's woe, singer sez</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Jackson Family patriarch Joe Jackson was so abusive to his children "that he'd probably be in prison" if his wife hadn't protected him, Jermaine Jackson alleges.<br><br>The outline for Jermaine's proposed book "Legacy: Surviving the Best and the Worst" suggests Joe Jackson molested his daughters Rebbie and LaToya and may have exposed young Michael to abuse at the hands of "important" businessmen.<br><br>"Joseph did some disgusting things to LaToya and Rebbie, especially. If it weren't for Mother's loyalty to him, he'd probably be in prison for what he did to our sisters," Jermaine said in the draft.<br><br>Jermaine describes their mother as a loving person, but he wonders why she allowed her husband "to do what he's done."<br><br>When LaToya, 49, detailed physical abuse and hinted at sexual abuse in her 1991 tell-all "LaToya - Growing Up in the Jackson Family," other family members denied it.<br><br>Jermaine even suggested his father may have set up Michael to be somehow victimized by older men.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>He tells how his father would have Michael join in at late-night hotel room meetings with "important business people," and wondered whether "something happened" to Michael at those sessions.<br><br>He said he sensed something was wrong because Michael would be sick for days after.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> "What was Joseph doing?" Jermaine wrote.<br><br>In weighing the 2003 child-molestation allegations against Michael, Jermaine wondered whether his father's behavior could have made his younger brother go bad.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Joseph Jackson's children were frightened that their father's blood would eventually "contaminate" them.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Rebbie, 55, is the oldest daughter in the Jackson family. As kids growing up in Gary, Ind., before the family hit it big, she and LaToya slept in an alcove off the living room.<br><br>Rebbie moved out of the family home as a teen and went to live with a family friend "for reasons I didn't fully understand then," LaToya wrote in her book.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>LaToya also described being awakened in the night by Joseph wearing a "monster mask."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/396867p-336395c.html">nydailynews.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>MANAMA, Bahrain — For the people working at Bahrain’s malls, the person covered head to toe in a black veil, gloves and glasses appeared to be a rich, doting Saudi mother, leaping from one aisle to the next to select children’s shoes, clothes and toys.<br><br>But why would a woman wear a man’s shoes? Why the bodyguards? And why did the person’s movements seem so familiar?<br><br>“It was the way he moved that made me sure it was Michael Jackson,” said Radio-Shack salesman Sharfudeen Kadeer Meera. “He shops the way he dances, going from one place to the other at dizzying speed.”<br><br>Since his June acquittal on child molestation charges in California, Jackson has been living on the island nation of Bahrain, the guest of Sheik Abdullah bin Hamad Al Khalifa, the son of Bahrain’s king.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://159.54.227.3/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060302/LIVING/60302047/1004">The Olympian</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Michael and son in Bahrain:<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.cbsnews.com/images/2006/03/01/image9a693178-d64e-44bc-abb2-a554e66f8eeb.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>From Joseph Jackson's official <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://josephjackson.de/">website</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://josephjackson.de/img/start2.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 3/7/06 7:56 pm<br></i>
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On (Former) Hatred of Michael....

Postby Floyd Smoots » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:00 pm

Jeff, it looks like it makes sense, to me. How else explain this verifiable, certifiable "freak of nature"??? I have read many posts, on many blogs and websites that suggest that child molestation is passed on down thru the ages from abuser to abused, to adult abused/abuser, to a newly abused one, etc. It certainly seems to make a lot of "wierdly high" sense to me.<br><br>....Alex <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: On (Former) Hatred of Michael....

Postby thumperton » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:25 pm

I guess Jacko's kid took more after the mother? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thumperton@rigorousintuition>thumperton</A> at: 3/7/06 9:15 pm<br></i>
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I Used to Love My Dear Grammar, but She Died....

Postby Floyd Smoots » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:33 pm

thumpie, dear fellow blogger, could you please post a complete coherent sentence, here? I'm only reading you 1x2, instead of 5x5, old radioman talk, here for perfect signal. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>....Alexander<br> <p></p><i></i>
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well

Postby smithtalk » Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:08 am

i've got to say floyd, you telling someone else to post a coherent sentence does indeed make me laugh <p></p><i></i>
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Incoherence Is, As Incoherence Does...

Postby Floyd Smoots » Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:17 am

....might a fellow blogger request a quote or two, showing my incoherence? Not saying they don't exist, mind you, but, at least, if you can show me one, I will be man enough to admit it to you, and the rest of this auspicious board. Go for it, smithy!!! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Ah Git's It Now....

Postby Floyd Smoots » Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:45 am

....smithy, lahk's uh bolt ta da brain, y'all cain't reed ner speek South'n-tahk!! 'S ok, naow Ah 'leasts unnerstan's whut yuh wuz tryin' ta say!! Fugeddabowtit!!! 'S'Cool!!<br> <p></p><i></i>
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what happened to Jermaine's book:

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:12 am

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Jackson author describes book debacle</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><br>Mar 7</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>LOS ANGELES, CA, United States (UPI) -- A Los Angeles author says Jermaine Jackson bowed to threats from his brother Michael and scrapped plans for a tell-all book about the musical family.<br><br>Michael Jackson reportedly threatened to sue his older brother and toss him from the family home if he went ahead with the book 'Legacy: Surviving the Best and the Worst,' which ended in the draft stage two years ago, ghostwriter Stacy Brown told the New York Daily News.<br><br>A portion of the draft published in the Daily News, quoted Jermaine, 51, saying Michael, 47, has 'a thing for young children' and he feared he was guilty of California child molestation charges, even though he was acquitted in 2003.<br><br>The book also suggested Jackson patriarch Joe molested two of his daughters, the Daily News said.<br><br>Brown, who co-wrote 'Michael Jackson: The Man Behind the Mask,' said the experience with Jermaine prompted him to cut all ties with the 'out of touch, unreal, unrealistic and dysfunctional' Jackson family.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://books.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1135206.php/Jackson_author_describes_book_debacle">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Jackson as abused child...

Postby darkbeforedawn » Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:10 am

hmm. this explains a lot. His contacts with these "businesmen" in hotels may also explain how he just gets away with this and seems above the law. They are covering up for one of their own and possibly are afraid of exposure....or something like that. MJ always said he was going to be exonerated from all charges and seemed to just be quite quite certain of that even when, according to the media his prospects were not good. Or maybe he just bought out the court? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Jackson as abused child...

Postby CyberChrist » Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:53 pm

If you follow cases like this and the Franklin Case, it's easy to see how the kids turn out to be completely screwed up. <p>--<br>CyberChrist<br>http://www.hackerjournal.org<br>My brain is hung like a horse.</p><i></i>
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Re: Jackson as abused child...

Postby NavnDansk » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:35 pm

I feared for the safety of Michael Jackson's first child when I read in WaPo that he immediately took the child from his then wife and cut his wife off from seeing the child and the mother said she could not fight the lawyers that Jackson could afford. I don't know if she made an attempt to fight.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I don't know how many children he has now but it is a crying shame that parents get to own their children like slaves and esp. a very wealthy person like Jackson can buy his way out of any trouble including doing terrible things to children.<br><br>I keep thinking with Floyd that prayer is powerful and looking towards the Blessed Hope is when this stuff will finally, eternally come to an end and people will live as they should with joy and no exploitation. "The meek will inherit the earth and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace."<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Jackson as abused child...

Postby cortez » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:26 am

made me think of the Jackson voodoo thing from a couple of years ago. This site has some interesting speculation<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.snant.com/fp/archives/michael-jackson-voodoo-chile/">www.snant.com/fp/archives...doo-chile/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>...Given yesterday’s post about Jackson and our recent investigation into his possible involvement in ritual abuse, here’s an interesting tidbit I uncovered this morning. The article presents it as “oh, that wacky, wacky Michael,” but it makes my ears perk up.<br><br> Vanity Fair reported in the article that in 2000 Jackson attended a voodoo ritual in Switzerland where a witch doctor promised that [Steven] Spielberg, music mogul David Geffen and 23 other people on the entertainer’s list of enemies would die.<br><br> Jackson, who underwent a “blood bath” as part of the ritual, then ordered his former business adviser Myung-Ho Lee to wire $150,000 to a bank in Mali for a voodoo chief named Baba, who sacrificed 42 cows for the ceremony, the magazine reported. <br><br>If you’ll recall, Spielberg was actually pals with Jacques Vallee, and Vallee was the technical consultant on Close Encounters of the Third Kind. According to everything I can find on the subject (basically a few mentions here and there), Spielberg most likely met Vallee through a mutual acquaintence: Ira Einhorn. If I remember correctly, Vallee ended up disappointed with the film, because it suggested that extraterrestrials are outer-space aliens, which Vallee does not consider the case.<br><br>Anyhow, the reason Jackson wanted to put a voodoo curse on Spielberg? Apparently, the director wouldn’t let Michael play the role of Peter Pan in the movie Hook . . . .<br><br> Back in the mid 1980s when Steven Spielberg was first developing his Peter Pan project (that would eventually, after being sworn off by Spielberg, resurface as HOOK), Michael Jackson had lobbied Spielberg to play the role of the “boy who wouldn’t grow up”. A lot of press put Jackson as the lead contender for the part, something Spielberg supposedly never considered an option, hence Jackson’s retaliation utilizing the powers of darkness. <br><br>Oh, here’s something else weird. The person who introduced Michael Jackson to Uri Geller was Mohammed Al Fayed, the father of Dodi Fayed who perished along with Princess Di. Al Fayed is good friends with both Geller and Jackson. He owns Harrod’s in London, and made his fortune by working for a Saudi arms dealer named Adnan Khashoggi. Adnan Khashoggi eventually became involved in almost every single conspiracy theory in the modern era, from Watergate to the Iran-Contra affair to throwing the 2000 election to 9-11. He’s even mentioned on a Queen album. I’m not even going to begin to attempt to unravel this dude’s connections, but here’s the Google search. Oh, and his 2nd wife is a high-profile Scientologist, as is, of course, Lisa Marie Presley, Jackson’s ex-wife.<br><br>Here’s a picture of Adnan, having his spoon bent by friend Uri Geller.<br><br>What does all of this mean? Well, it might only mean that rich celebrities hang out with one another. It might also mean that a couple of guys with websites have incredibly overactive imaginations and way too much free time. Still, I can’t help but notice the connexions upon connexions and wonder if something more sinister lurks beneath them all. More later . . . . <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Jackson as abused child...

Postby havanagilla » Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:07 pm

sounds very plausible to me, and his downfall is part of it, along with his insistence to protect the memory and reputation of his abusive parents.<br>However, MK Ultra officially died before he was born, I'd check DARPA and other such agencies for the "chapter two" of the scam.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Random Notes

Postby km artlu » Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:15 pm

The reference to Kashoggi being mentioned in a Queen song brought to mind the rumor that Sting's "Wrapped Around My Finger" outlined his relationship with Kashoggi. Wasn't A.K. also a mentor of the Bin Laden patriarch?<br><br>MJ's appearance on this board resonates with another recent topic here. He's the only mainstream public figure in American life I can think of who's been associated with blatant anti-Semitism. I believe he's been taped blaming "Jews" for his financial disarray and moribund musical clout. <p></p><i></i>
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