Iranian leader denies Holocaust

by **emad** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:55 pm

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has courted further controversy by explicitly calling the Nazi Holocaust of European Jewry a "myth". "They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets," he said. On live TV, he called for Europe or North America - even Alaska - to host a Jewish state, not the Middle East. Israel swiftly denounced the president's comments. "We hope these extremist comments... will make the international community open its eyes and abandon any illusions about this regime," foreign ministry spokesman Mark Regev told AFP news agency. Mr Ahmadinejad's latest declaration echoes comments he made last week, in which he said territory should be "provided" in Germany or Austria to establish Israel "if European countries claim that they have killed Jews in World War II". The president sparked international outrage in October when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map". 'Europe's fault' Speaking to thousands of people in the south-eastern city of Zahedan, Mr Ahmadinejad brushed aside criticism of his views, saying it was orchestrated by supporters of Israel. "If someone were to deny the existence of God... or prophets and religion, they would not bother him. "However, if someone were to deny the myth of the Jews' massacre, all the Zionist mouthpieces and the governments subservient to the Zionists tear their larynxes and scream against the person as much as they can," he said. He returned to his earlier theme that Europe should shoulder the responsibility for a Jewish state. "If you [Europeans] committed this big crime, then why should the oppressed Palestinian nation pay the price? "This is our proposal: give a part of your own land in Europe, the US, Canada or Alaska to them so that the Jews can establish their country," he said. Since his election in June 2005, Mr Ahmadinejad has taken a more hardline stance towards Israel in public than his predecessors, and has recently stepped up his anti-Israel rhetoric. Israel's spokesman said the Iranian president's latest remarks reflected a "perverse vision of the world held by this regime". BBC Tehran correspondent Frances Harrison says the Iranian press has endorsed the president's views, calling them logical and less passive than the approach of previous Iranian governments. Condemnation The foreign minister of Germany criticised Mr Ahmadinejad's remarks as "shocking and unacceptable" and warned they could influence negotiations with Iran over its nuclear programme. "I cannot hide the fact that this weighs on bilateral relations and on the chances for the negotiation process," Frank-Walter Steinmeier said. German officials are scheduled to meet their Iranian counterparts on 21 December for the next round of talks over Iran's nuclear ambitions. Talks between Tehran and three European Union nations - Germany, France and the UK - have been deadlocked over Iran's renewed efforts to produce nuclear fuel. The EU renewed its condemnation of Mr Ahmadinejad's position, saying it had no place in civilised political debate. <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4527142.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...527142.stm</a> DAVID IRVING must be rejoicing in that Viennese slammer ....what a champion is born!

by **ivanbo2003** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:05 pm

That guy("president") is definitely a moron(in medical sense of a word) and should be hospitalized,pronto! Yeah ,6 million people were brutaly killed(to say the least) and for him it is nothing...I wonder if that happened to his people,would he feel the same?No of course...But for Jews?It's ok...They are not ppl who are worth talking about... A moron indeed

by **cortez** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:43 am

didn't make sense here in retrospect <a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm9.showMessage?topicID=75.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...D=75.topic</a> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=cortez@rigorousintuition>cortez</A> at: 12/15/05 2:18 am

by **Smaugs Fury** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:01 am

Poland itself is a denying nation then...the state, and the Auschwitz Holocaust Museum has revised the official count of 4 million killed in the camp, to 1.5 million killed. That is over a 50% reduction in the number, 2.5 million REMOVED from the lists...yet 6 million MINUS 2.5 million, still equals 6 million. From the plaque at Auschwitz from 1948-1990 <img src="http://thunderbay.indymedia.org/uploads/ausplaq1948.gif" style="border:0;"/> from the 1990 revision, the plaque at Auschwitz <img src="http://thunderbay.indymedia.org/uploads/ausplaq1990.gif" style="border:0;"/> In July 1990, the Polish government's Auschwitz State Museum, along with Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust center, conceded that the four million figure was a gross exaggeration, and references to it were accordingly removed from the Auschwitz monument. Israeli and Polish officials announced a tentative revised toll of 1.1 million Auschwitz dead. http://www.fromthewilderness.com/ http://www.infowars.com/ http://www.prisonplanet.com/ If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. GEORGE ORWELLEdited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=smaugsfury>Smaugs Fury</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/flags/us.gif" BORDER=0> at: 12/14/05 11:02 pm

by **firstimer** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:20 am

Why are we still talking about the Holocaust in this thread? That is not the objective of the sentence heard 'round the world. Hmm... Lets see here, a guy that participated in the kidnapping of American hostages in Iran after a rev. and a coup (which I hear was accomplished by the disemination of cassette tape propaganda, small discreet easy to copy, sound familiar yet?) where we "apparently" (key word here, and don't forget) lost our influence on Iran for 20 years is now playing into the U.S Gov. hands as well as Israels, who will finally be stuck with the blame if it goes wrong just as they would have if 9/11 failed. This 1 sentence he spoke, the only one that will bring Jews and non-Jews together in Western culture, hands over the moral initative to the apparent enemy just in time for an anticipated attack by an obviously two-faced guard dog in the Middle East, to start the war that will ensure that Iran ends up like Iraq? A broken puzzle of ethnicities and historically synthetic political groups competing for the scraps of a reformist constitution that resembles democracy about as much as a twinkie. That's almost as good as the lie called "the Shot heard 'round the World" I understand he might have been somewhat of an underdog? Is that true? Cuz wouldn't that be strange if it turned out that the incumbant leader lost that election to somebody that first seemed slightly more moderate, then becomes very, well lets call it right wing. This has the effect of inflaming already existing tensions after the fact of the change of leadership why? Why become more fundamental? The supposed victory was based on a nod to a balance of opposites which he represented, right? lets go back a bit. Where was it that Kohemeni hung out til the coup of '79? Iraq, who did he fight for 8 years playing into the Military industrial Complex's plan to play both sides of the Iran Iraq war? Alright that was easy one. How about this, how did they know that he would fight Saddam? now back to America right after the fall of the Shah I'm thinki'n it was awefully Brave of the Reagan campaign to take a chance on the one shot GHWBu"ssh" has at transforming the US into a Fascist police state. Why would they expect crazy fundamentalist lunatics to rip them off and make fools of them on a pretty good scam called the October surpsise? Seems like they would, but for some reason there seems to always be a level of cooperation with such figures of the Middle East and the CIA. now forward to now. What if there were a real "American style Revolution there with Britain pulling the strings just like before. Who do you think will profit off of that oil and the exchange that starts up soon?Especially if there is such goodwill that a nuclear exchange was avoided? Might make the CIA and the MI6 come out looking like roses. USA gets Iraq, England gets Iran. (France gets screwed again for playing the fool while Shah lived in France and wondered how he missed his chance. "It didn't have to be so complicated" was his regret. Was He right? just askin' firstimer

by **jingofever** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:32 am

Auschwitz is only one camp. There were four other extermination camps plus the many concentration camps that were spread around the reich, though mostly in Germany. And initially, the Einsatzgruppen who followed the German Army and murdered any jews, communists, other undesirables as they invaded the Soviet Union. Taken together the figure could very easily be six million.

by **anotherdrew** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:38 am

'cause he's gonna get flammed for that. :ducking-flames somebody move the president of iraq to the firepit please. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

by **xsic bastardx** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:39 am

The fact is the Halocaust happend. Lots of people died and lots of terrible things happend. However the blatant propaganda behind WWII and and the ever decreasing numbers of Jews that actually died, the Census numbers and the fact that more and more are coming forward about not seeing anything at all. I can't help but believe that what really happend we will never know. It's funny how people here at Home want to express thier freedom of speech yet when others do it we condemn and attack. The fact is The Evil Zionist Empire has executed a flawless Coup De Tat against America and Israel. They ust such atrocities as the Holocaust to influence and silence true Deomcracy. When you look at it, it has the same stink of cover up and misinformation as does 9/11.

Iranian leader denies Holocaust

Iranian leader denies Holocaust

Re: Iranian leader denies Holocaust

moving my post

Re: No holocaust?

where is the scrutiny?

different figures

Re: I hope he's "put on his fire proof trousers" .

Holocaust=Propaganda

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