Jewish militants put death curse on Sharon? (kabbalistic)

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Jewish militants put death curse on Sharon? (kabbalistic)

Postby hmm » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:25 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050726/od_nm/sharon_curse_dc">news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050...n_curse_dc</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Jewish ultranationalists put a death curse on<br>Ariel Sharon, saying only God could breach the heavy security around the Israeli prime minister, the Ynet Web site reported Tuesday.<br>"It's preferable that God, rather than a mortal, kills him because his bodyguards are just too good," Ynet quoted one of the participants at a "Pulsa Denora," an ancient Jewish ceremony which it said was held at a cemetery at the weekend."<br><br>saw this posted at "another place" and it interested me as i dont know much about the this aspect of the occult and i thought people here might have some insights.<br>Like a good little info-agent i decided to look for the original source of the quote hoping for more detail and came across something else more familiar to me that is also worthy of notice.<br>The actual quote from YNET is quite different from the one yahoo offers us,and i'm curious as to what people think of that one (i know what i think)<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3118275,00.html">www.ynetnews.com/articles...75,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Hitler and Stalin combined were guarded by 10 percent of the security force that protects Sharon, so it would be futile to have mortals attempt it (assassination)," he said. “God can kill in many different ways, and we pray that just as he took Uzi Chitman (singer) and Ehud Manor (songwriter), so, too, would he take Sharon within a month’s time.”<br><br>Do you see the difference?<br><br>the article has a few other details regarding the curse but as thats not something i know much about i will post another quote that caught my eye and i knew something was missing.<br><br>“We said the prayer near the grave of (hanged pre-state activist) Shlomo Ben-Yosef - the most suitable site - as he is Sharon’s antithesis,” he said. “Ben-Yosef sacrificed his soul for the people of Israel, while Sharon is robbing the nation. We hope the lord will take him from us.”<br><br>hanged pre-state activist Shlomo Ben-Yosef,now this was something i could easily check and feel confident pointing out.<br><br>one man's hanged pre-state activist is another man's religious fanatic illegal immigrant terrorist<br><br>"In 1937 he decided to immigrate to Eretz Israel, but failing to obtain the certificate granted by the Jewish Agency - <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>he joined a group of 'illegal' immigrants</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> as part of the 'Af Al Pi' project. When he reached Eretz Israel on September 20, 1937, he joined the Betar labor company at Rosh Pina and shortly afterwards <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>was accepted into the Irgun</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. On arrival at Rosh Pina he burned his foreign passport and changed his name to Shlomo Ben-Yosef.<br><br>He was arrested by the British after <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>shooting at an Arab bus</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> as a retaliation to the murder of six Jews."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.etzel.org.il/english/people/benyosef.htm">www.etzel.org.il/english/...nyosef.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>i find this kind of historical revisionism really interesting..<br>To add a last little twist to this tale i have this:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/605378.html">www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/605378.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"The Peace Now movement on Wednesday accused a Channel 2 television news magazine program of funding incitement after it purchased a video of a ceremony produced by extreme right-wing elements, in which they called for the death of the prime minister.<br>~snip~<br>In addition to seeking the death of the prime minister, the extremists also sought to profit from their actions by offering their video for sale to the media.<br><br>Starting Tuesday morning, the extremists attempted to sell the video to one of the country's main commercial media outlets - Channel 2, Channel 10, Yedioth Aharonot or Maariv - for $5,000."<br><br>so this cultic death ceremony is going to be broadcast on TV and by the looks of the piece by choice both on the parts of the cultists and the media.<br><br>Remember that Rabin (who was killed by a rightwinger) had this same curse put upon him.<br><br>RI? <p></p><i></i>
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'coincidence theorists'

Postby rain » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:35 am

something must be up. was reading this again last night as part of background to related events/issues.<br> <br>Hear ye, hear ye: Sanhedrin seeks David's scion as king<br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Yaakov Katz, THE JERUSALEM POST Jan. 12, 2005 <br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Will Jews begin proclaiming "Long live the king" in the near future? <br><br>According to a group of 71 Jewish scholars who met this week in the Old City of Jerusalem in the form of a modern-day Sanhedrin – a duplicate of the religious tribunal which convened during the time of the Second Temple – a coronation day is growing closer. <br><br>As one member of the group put it, "We would have liked it to happen yesterday. But we are willing to wait until tomorrow." <br><br>There hasn't been a genuine Sanhedrin in Israel for nearly 1,600 years; the last one to be proclaimed was in France, by Napoleon, for political gain. Shortly after the establishment of the State of Israel, religious affairs minister Judah Leib Maimon raised the notion of reinstituting the ancient body, to no avail. <br><br>The group composed largely of Kahane sympathizers that gave itself the name Sanhedrin in October, however, met Sunday to discuss the creation of a Jewish monarchy in the State of Israel. <br><br>For the past several years a group called the Monarchists has conducted extensive research into the lineage of several families in an effort to discover who has the closest bloodline to the biblical King David – a requirement for any future Jewish king. <br><br>Rabbi Yosef Dayan from Psagot, known for his recent threats to place a death curse on Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, is said to be a leading candidate to become the "king of Israel." <br><br>"Dayan has the best lineage to King David," several members of the Sanhedrin told The Jerusalem Post. They say he has two documented ancient sources which draw a direct line between him and the males in his family to King David some 3,000 years ago. <br><br>"Many people can show they are descendants of King David, but they cannot show that the line is only male," one Sanhedrin member explained. "That makes Dayan the leading candidate to become king." <br><br>The Monarchists have consulted with non-Jewish experts on lineage. They concurred that, without a doubt, Dayan is a direct descendent of the House of David. <br><br>The only question now is how to establish the Jewish monarchy in spite of the presiding democratic government. <br><br>"There are two possibilities," Dayan explained. "The first is that the nation or a majority from within will want the monarchy and will uproot the presiding democratic government." <br><br>The second, more realistic option, he said, is "the one cited by Maimonides – and that is that no one will know how it will be until it happens." <br><br>Some of the other ideas discussed at the Sanhedrin meeting included the construction of an altar on the Temple Mount to be used for the Passover Offering during the upcoming holiday. <br><br>One of the ideas, members said, is to climb the Mount and build the altar within minutes and sacrifice the lamb before security forces can stop them. Another, said leading Sanhedrin member Baruch Ben-Yosef, is to pray for a tsunami-like disaster on the Mount. <br><br>"In one second, God wiped out 150,000 people," he said. "Who knows? Maybe he'll help us if we show him we are ready." <br><br>Participants also discussed Ben-Yosef's idea of reinstating the Sanhedrin's authority to announce Rosh Hodesh, the beginning of the new lunar month.<br>"It is very important to reinstate the Sanhedrin's authority to announce the month, because it will force people to understand that God gave us the power to control the calendar and our own destiny," Ben-Yosef said.<br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>This article can also be read at <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1105418785934">www.jpost.com/servlet/Sat...5418785934</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>[ Back to the Article ]<br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Copyright 1995-2005 The Jerusalem Post - <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.jpost.com/">www.jpost.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>maybe there just vying for kudos.<br>gotta love it ! especially that last sentence.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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jeepers

Postby rain » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:38 am

my typos are bad.<br>time for a nice cup of tea.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 'coincidence theorists' & royalty

Postby hmm » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:50 pm

nice catch,funny how stories tend to surface that relate..<br>how do you say this in polite conversation..hmm... blue blood is at its most estheticically pleasing when its contrasting with green,like a spray of bluebells on a well mown lawn <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>i like that quote:<br><br>"God gave us the power to control the calendar and our own destiny"<br><br>makes you want to dig a little deeper <p></p><i></i>
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Monarchy

Postby antiaristo » Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:32 pm

hmm,<br>DO dig. This could be important.<br>They are in a rush.<br><br>If you have a one world government, where will be its seat?<br>The "International City" proclaimed by the UN?<br>And WHO will sit on King David's Throne?<br>Could it be King Arthur?<br><br>ps please, some help on posting pictures<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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with apologies to "The Big Lebowski"...

Postby robertdreed » Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:34 pm

"Whatever the shortcomings of ultra-Orthodox settler Zionism, at least it's an ethic."<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Monarchy - jewish mysticism is outside my realm

Postby hmm » Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:49 pm

i was wondering if anyone else had other insights<br><br>as to images..you copy the link from your browser,click the "image" button and paste it and click "ok" <p></p><i></i>
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no need to hurry... too much

Postby rain » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:11 pm

first, got to have a giggle at the bun-fight that's got to be happening around the kitchen table.<br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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pictures

Postby antiaristo » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:14 pm

hmm,<br>I know it sounds daft.<br>If I have an image on my hard drive its address is C\etc.<br>That's not a URL.<br>I've tried pasting the "C\etc." in the prompt.<br>All I get is a load of text. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: pictures - oooh..that wont work

Postby hmm » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:24 pm

it has to be "on the internet" your pc is not a valid link..its a bit confusing as some places do allow you to do it like that.<br><br>there is a place you can dump images..<br>its a free signup so dont fall for the other options<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://imagebucket.net/">imagebucket.net/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>and then link to that site when its uploaded <p></p><i></i>
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..

Postby antiaristo » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:41 pm

hmm,<br>Thank you. You've saved my peace of mind<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>My comment above was quite serious.<br>They cast their spells and frame their myths.<br><br>How do you think they felt about the Kennedies appropriating the Camelot myth?<br><br>You know about the British/Israel movement?<br><br>The man that became George VI was named Albert - "Bertie". George was one of his middle names.<br><br>The Prince of Wales' third name is Arthur.... <p></p><i></i>
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so,

Postby rain » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:07 pm

antiaristo, who else do you know of that claims descent from our mythical David ?<br>and you know what happened to the last Arthur c. 1100's<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ..

Postby hmm » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:32 pm

dont feel confident to speculate without more understanding..i kindof dismissed the queen in the "all royalty is evil" and havent payed attention,as with jewish mysticism i dont understand so i post what i see and what i do notice and hope those with more mystical knowledge or historical knowledge that applies would fill in <p></p><i></i>
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Arthur

Postby antiaristo » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:44 pm

rain,<br>The last Arthur was Arthur Tudor, I believe. The elder brother of Henry VIII.<br>They may have decided using the name was "unlucky".<br><br>I can only guess you mean the Merovingians?<br><br>Have you taken a close look at the Prince of Wales' coat-of-arms? <p></p><i></i>
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