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The Wayne Madsen report on "Israeli Art Students"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:56 pm
by robertdreed going to take a while for me to read <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>


PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:04 am
by anon
I have personally witnessed the Israeli art students in action. The FBI even followed up on them...asking questions. <p></p><i></i>

Re: True

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:13 am
by FourthBase
So did I: in Braintree, MA South Shore Mall December of 2000.<br>They were selling the wind-up toy helicoptors.<br><br>They were still there in 2001 and 2002, this time selling remote controlled toy trucks. <p></p><i></i>

Re: True

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:45 am
by Sweejak
I know someone who encounterd one as well. What are the odds?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Madsen here has threaded it nicely together, including mention of McVeigh, Cipel and McGreevy.<br><br>A few more unmentioned in the article, here<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

Re: True

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:10 pm
by Sweejak
<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>According to anonymous sources within the Dutch intelligence community, all tapping equipment of the Dutch intelligence services and half the tapping equipment of the national police force, is insecure and is leaking information to Israel. How difficult is it to make a back-door in the Dutch Transport of Intercepted IP Traffic[1] system?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>

Re: True

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:55 pm
by dbeach
cYRSTAL MALL CT<br><br>toy remote cars broke as soon as we got em home<br><br>RIP OFF!! <p></p><i></i>

China's Army of Amateur Spies

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:25 pm
by proldic
Telegraph UK Friday 12 August 2005 <br> <br> <br>FBI cracks down on China's elusive army of amateur spies<br>By Francis Harris in Washington<br><br>The FBI is deploying hundreds of new agents across America to crack down on spying by a small army of Chinese agents who are stealing information designed to kick-start high-tech military and business programmes.<br><br> <br>The new counter-intelligence strategy reflects growing alarm at the damage being done by spies hidden among the 700,000 Chinese visitors entering the US each year.<br><br>"China is the biggest [espionage] threat to the US today," David Szady, the assistant director of the FBI's counter-intelligence division, told the Wall Street Journal.<br><br>Officers said the campaign to close down China's wide-ranging espionage effort was now one of the major intelligence priorities after the struggle against terrorism.<br><br>But while the espionage effort resembles that against the threat from communist Russia, it has been made far more difficult by the sheer number of Chinese nationals in the US and by linguistic and cultural differences that help insulate Chinese agents from detection.<br><br>One of the biggest problems confronting American counter-intelligence officers is the diffuse nature of the threat; espionage is generally carried out by amateur agents working for Chinese intelligence and for the country's burgeoning business sector...<br><br>The FBI estimates that more than 3,000 "front companies" have been established by Chinese nationals in the US specifically to purloin military and economic secrets illegally.<br><br>"They can work on so many levels that China may prove more difficult to contain than the Russian threat," said Mr Szady, a veteran of the FBI's shadow war with the KGB.<br><br>According to Mr Magers, the system used by Chinese spies is sophisticated and effective. Beijing appears to be willing to "send a lot of sources out to get small bits of information, and then to reassemble it back in China"...<br><br><br>Israel 6.7 million<br>China 1.3 billion<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

Re: China's Army of Amateur Spies

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:54 pm
by ZeroHaven
Hey no kidding! Makes me wonder about all the chinese-run convenience stores and cafeterias literally inside buildings with government agencies in DC.<br>Having worked in such a building, and having seen more than my share of people discussing all sorts of projects over lunch.. it's very plausible that some of those nice clerks could be spies. They'd get TONS of info on all sorts of hi-tech planning while pretending to barely speak a word of English.<br><br>A few years before that they built a DoD facility next door to a mini mall in VA that was the only source of lunch... and now that I think about it, even the mexican restaurant had oriental employees. Dang! <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src=""/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>


PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:37 pm
by bethmex
See: "turning the thread"<br><br>Evidence points toward Israel, not China, in terms of foreknowledge of and complicity in the events of 9/11 and 7/7.<br><br>Maybe there's a "dancing Chinese 'movers', caught celebrating on 9/11 then deported to China" story I've missed.<br><br> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

Re: China?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:44 pm
by ZeroHaven
sorry I fell for the turn. i'm dumb. there IS a connection to china though, so it kind of makes a little sense.<br>Especially if you think about how <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="" target="top">Israel is China's second-largest arms supplier</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <br>and<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="" target="top">Chinese were dealing with the Taliban</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> right up to the day of the WTC attacks.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>oh, and to make sure I don't goof again and get back on topic... the Israeli art student's paintings were Made In China.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

Re: China?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:46 pm
by Sweejak
It's worth remembering that it was Wofowitz, among others who was implicated in missile sales to China. <br>Stephen Green, whom I've heard is a a consultant to FBI regarding the AIPAC investigation has an article on this.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>In 1997, "Defense Week" reported (05/27/97) that, ...." the U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence reaffirmed that U.S.- derived technology from the cancelled [Israeli] Lavi fighter project is being used on China's new F-10 fighter." The following year, "Jane's Intelligence Review" reported (11/01/9<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src= ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> the transfer by Israel to China of the Phalcon airborne early warning and control system, the Python air-combat missile, and the F-10 fighter aircraft, containing "state-of-the-art U.S. electronics."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>also:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>and:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"In 1978 Wolfowitz working for the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency is involved in an inquiry when it is found out that he provided a classified document to an Israeli Government official through an AIPAC contact. In 1992 the Bush I administration commences an investigation of the export of classified military technology to China. It is discovered that Wolfowitz is lobbying for the sale to Israel of the AIM-9 air to air missile. The Joint Chiefs headed by Colin Powell intervenes knowing that Israel has been caught selling an earlier variant of the AIM -9 missile to China. -- Source: Stephen Green, CounterPunch, Jan 1-15, 2004."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>That missile was reportedly on the wings of the Chinese jets that captured our spy plane. <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

Re: China?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:22 am
by FourthBase
Chinese espionage in the bradblog/Curtis voterigging scandal. <p></p><i></i>

Re: The Wayne Madsen report on "Israeli Art Students&qu

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:55 am
by ewastud
Do you recall the revelations about Clint Curtis, the Florida computer programmer who said that Rep. Tom Feeney ordered a Chinese-owned company he worked for to design software to rig the vote? There was another employee named Henry Nee who was convicted of immigration violations as I recall, but was also shipped some sensitive electronic military equipment to China against US law. I suspect that known case is but the tip of an iceberg of what is likely going on. George H. W. Bush was a former US ambassador to China and has a reputation of exploiting every shred of intelligence information he picks to his personal economic advantage. <p></p><i></i>


PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:56 pm
by Sweejak
<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Sibel Edmonds Speaks and Bob Dreyfuss Explains<br><br>Saturday on the Weekend Interview Show I'll be talking with Sibel Edmonds about the new Vanity Fair article which finally disclosed the reason for her gagging: The corruption of the Speaker of the House of Representatives. National Security indeed.<br><br>In the second hour I'll be talking with veteran reporter Bob Dreyfuss about the FBI investigation into the Israeli spies operating out of the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee and the Department of Defense.<br><br>Listen live 4-6 pm eastern time<br><br>Archives <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

Re: China?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:03 pm
by toscaveritas
<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The Chinese were dealing with the Taliban right up to the day of the WTC attacks.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>so were the Texans! recall the visit of Taliban leaders in Texas in the summer of 2001<br><br> <p></p><i></i>