Israel, Let Me Count the Ways

[Dreams End]

Well, I have known many women not classically "beautiful" who do have that certain something. But what are the results if ML was an agent? I would not have assumed it would have had as much effect as it did have, and the effects it did have were to spend a few days on fake impeachment hearings that increased Clinton's approval rating. <br><br>Blackmail would be more effective, as may have been happening, with the whole "call boy" scandal. While it makes no difference to me what gender someone is attracted to, that's not true with the public as a whole. And since some of the "call boys" were, indeed, boys...this adds to the power of the weapon.<br><br>I always wondered why the Moonie Washington Times was the one to put out that story. Someone around here...Jeff or some poster... pointed out that it may have been Moon's way of saying, on behalf of Korean/US intelligence agencies, "You'd best do what we say or the pictures get published." Since, if you believe that the whole Franklin case really was connected, we actually know who the photographer was (recently arrested on possession of child porn---pics of 16-year old boys, I think) well, it would be an effective weapon. <br><br>This is all hindsight, but I would simply not have anticipated much of an effect, potential blackmail wise. from a legal, female adult. Now, maybe she was spying...I guess that's possible. <br><br>It's only recently that affairs of presidents even made the news. Most of them had them and it was common knowledge among the press corps. It simply wasn't something you discussed in the paper. <br><br>As for Gennifer Flowers...you have a point there. And the recent info about her relationship to that guy in New Orleans...who knows. <br><br>One thing to keep in mind, though. In my life, from what I've seen among just plain folks, there's always lots of drama, sexual intrigue and affairs of all types. that doesn't stop just because you gain some status. In fact, you have far more opportunities. It's sort of a Jerry Springer world out there, in some ways, even at the top. <p></p><i></i>

[prunesquallori]

aka Peter Lamborn Wilson.<br>Here is the standard critique article on him:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2001/12/111403.php">sf.indymedia.org/news/2001/12/111403.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>

[ir]

sex bait and unwitting *courier of words". they do that.<br><br>--<br>there is a term in legalese called Nuntius (meaning someone who says things as a tape recorder of his sender, so his mental condition or will/intention is immaterial, in contract law). <br><br>I have another question though, hope its no sidetracking too much. Just realized that often on this board people talk about their therapists in connection with DID, PTSD, SRA etc. Only today I noticed that I keep reading this but this is like "virutal talk" to me. My attempts to find therapists in Israel for my situation never sound like the good, fullfulling, helpful, NORMAL experiences described here, especially referring to the bunch that talks about DID/SRA problems. Are there really that many sophisticated therapists who actually validate these epxeriences and do not freak out ? <br>--<br>I had one therapist in Israel, leading expert (internationally known) in PTSD and DID and SRA, claims to know MC victims as well. Thing is, he CAME TO ME, and not vice versae, red flag for me.And he had pretty solid/warm relationship with our Ministry of Foreign affairs, which for me was big red flag as well. Anyway, i wrapped up the epxerience, in my mind, as someone being sent 0 perhaps semi officially, to defuse bombs FOR the establishment, my part in the deal would be - getting free therapy by someone who can validate, but his interests are somehow conflicted. <br><br>--<br>Second therapist, one of the other FEW experts here on PTSD, a very young lady who graduated at boston or harvard and did her practicum with Judith ...something (trauma and recovery person). Was a nice lady, more trustworthy in terms of who she serves (she also ripped me off, which proved nobody else was paying her), but when I get a bit deeper into the nature of my previous "entanglements" (scary stuff), she seemed to have dissociated herself, because - as an Israeli - I am not sure she wanted to know who and what is being done here, in the kingdom of Hades, just below the nice streets of sunny tel aviv. These are the only two attempts I made to get effective help. Now, suppose if we take PW's situation, and the stuff she relates, wouldn't any therapist feel they freak out ? (if they beleive the story, it is SCARY to be privy of this info, and if they don't, they'd have to recommend psychiatric care or what not.).<br>Can you please explain the difference between MY reality and yours in terms of social acceptance, especially among the shrinking community ? <p></p><i></i>

[ir]

Thanks for the link to how this writer IS after all a dark agent of malignant hierarchies. not surprised recently. it appears that almost ANYONE who has any interest these days in "deep shit" is him/herself the origin of said trash, not just the scholar. Well, it doesn't really matter. <br>---<br>This is actualy in a way good news, for me. I felt really like an ignoramus, my knowledge is kind of "updated" to the mid eighties...apparently I didn't miss much since then. it just proves that good basic high school education can prove to be enough to deal with life's challenges. Every scam I was hooked on since that time, turned out to be ...a scam that took me off my course and was a total waste of time and energy. Basically, one needs a good handle on the bible (all three of them), some basic readings in Buddhism, confuciunism etc. (to know what they are talking about out there), Marx basic reading, Shakespeare, ...that's enough to give you the map. then - only recipe books are ACTUALLY useful.<br> My biggest diversions - nationalism, religion, new age. ---big lies that take up a lot of Chi to shake off.<br>----<br> <p></p><i></i>

[anotherdrew]

I wouldn't jump to conclusions just because a couple people emailed some weird sounding allegations and someone else posted it along, many years ago. There may be something to it, but I doubt it. Try sampling his real works, here's his site:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.t0.or.at/hakimbey/hakimbey.htm">www.t0.or.at/hakimbey/hakimbey.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>It's all kind of an 'art scam' kinda post-modern whirlygig of starangeness, experimental writting, etc, based on a mixture of 'so-called-reality' and fiction. He's a literary artist and mostly a scholar at a real job in a real university, where he goes to work and teaches most days I would say, not some drug crazed mindcontrol programer working for the cia. Or maybe, knowing PLW, I wouldn't be surprised if he wrote that hit piece about himself just to see what would happen. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=anotherdrew>anotherdrew</A> at: 1/11/06 6:26 pm<br></i>

[prunesquallori]

Yeah, he was involved in the Ong's Hat, IIRC. PokerWithoutCards is his buddy or something. <p></p><i></i>

[anotherdrew]

So what's up with that? Last time I looked in that direction, the whole thing was being written off as a complex hoax ginned up in the early 90s? Is that not correct? It seems like something PLW might have been involved with.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id219/pg1/">www.disinfo.com/archive/p...id219/pg1/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>