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Iran sticks with USDollars

Postby Byrne » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:45 pm

From <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.tradearabia.com/tanews/newsdetails_snOGN_article106153.html" target="top">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> (also <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.metimes.com/articles/normal.php?StoryID=20060605-101559-5633r" target="top">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->)<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Iran oil sales in dollars</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>Posted: Monday, June 05, 2006<br>Tehran<br><br>Iran will continue to price its oil sales in dollars but can receive payment in other foreign currency needed by the central bank, Iranian Oil Minister Kazem Vaziri-Hameneh said.<br><br>'Although pricing is in dollars, our receipts can be in any foreign exchange,' he was quoted as saying by the ISNA students' news agency.<br><br>When asked about discussions over pricing oil in euros, held on the sidelines of an Opec meeting in Venezuela, Vaziri-Hameneh said: 'Currently, because basic pricing is in dollars, it is not possible to make such a change.' <br><br>The Mehr news agency carried a separate quote saying the world's fourth biggest crude producer had already received payment in 'any foreign exchange' needed by the central bank for several months.<br><br>However, this quote was not carried by other agencies and it was not immediately possible to confirm this detail with the oil ministry or the central bank.<br><br>Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez said last month that his country might price its oil in euros.Reuters<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>Also, <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://english.daralhayat.com/business/06-2006/Article-20060605-a49e1d48-c0a8-10ed-00c1-55655cb9f13b/story.html" target="top">this</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> article concludes with the following remarks:<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Over the last three years, energy experts expected drops in demand for oil with growing prices. However, they are convinced that prices will remain high and may be higher in the future so long as there is no excess production of crude oil and excess capacity in modern refineries that can deal with the high-sulfur heavy oil.<br>To this may be added the geopolitical conflicts, centered in the oil-producing countries nowadays, which exacerbate concerns in the markets. Despite US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's significant initiative made last week to involve Washington and other major countries in direct negotiation with Tehran, which will put the conflict onto the diplomatic track, there are many other problems, such as the power-oil conflict in Basra and Niger River Delta in Nigeria, besides the growing conflict between the US and Venezuela.<br>However, this is the nature of the world's markets at present - high prices and demand and low supply of crude oil and other products do not mean that things are plain sailing for the producing countries.<br>The decrease of the dollar rate of exchange means that the OPEC member states can do little in this respect, except waiting for things to improve in the future, despite remarks about shifting to the euro.<br>A study issued last week by the Deutsche Bank pointed out that despite the exciting headlines that may refer to stability in the American oil prices to over $70 per barrel, the real value of OPEC oil in euros is equal to $50 per barrel.<br>Although the IMF expected a 4.9% rise in the world's growth rate this year, which would positively affect the international demand for oil, the constant increase in the interest rates worldwide and the rise of inflation rates will sooner or later reduce demand.<br>These contradictory indicators emerge at a time when the Arab oil-producing countries are building fresh capacities at all oil and gas production phases, at a value of $44 billion annually.<br>In any case, these contradictions in the future indicators should make us wary, despite the current high oil proceeds.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>There has been little direct word from Iran on the subject of the proposed Iranian oil Bourse. Now it seems that the exclusive adoption of Euros is not going to happen as Iran states that it will remain with US Dollars for oil sales.<br><br>This comes after the foreign ministers of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council and Germany met in Vienna on Thursday 1st June to discuss Iran's nuclear program, trade and economic cooperation with Tehran, and security guarantees. The European Union's Javier Solana, (EU High Commissioner for Common Foreign and Security Policy) will arrive in Tehran Monday evening (5th June) to present the proposals drafted by the 6 nations representatives.<br><br>I wonder where the recent pronouncements of Russia/Ruble Oil Sales & Venezuela/Euro Oil Sales sits with all this?<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Iran sticks with USDollars

Postby Byrne » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:41 am

From the Transcript of Meeting with the Leaders of the News Agencies of G8 Member Countries, on June 2, 2006<br>Novo-Ogaryovo <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.kremlin.ru/eng/speeches/2006/06/02/1121_type82914type82917type84779_106433.shtml" target="top">(Source)</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, Russian President Vladimir Putin was asked the following question:<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Q</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Yesterday six countries met to discuss the Iranian problem. If possible could you confirm what Russia’s position is on this issue – will Russia participate in economic sanctions against Iran if Iran does not agree with the existing offer? And will Russia participate in negotiations concerning Iran?<br>Thank you.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Vladimir Putin Replied:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>There is a proverb that says if a grandmother had certain reproductive organs, she would have been a grandfather. Politics does not accept subjunctive mood. First of all we must develop common approaches with our partners, approaches that would be acceptable to our Iranian partners and that would not restrict their possibilities for using modern technology. At the same time these approaches must completely assuage the international community’s concerns about the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons and nuclear technologies that could prove dangerous for international peace. <br><br>What form these decisions will take will become clear in the course of discussions with our European and American partners. In any case we welcome the fact that the USA has decided to join the negotiation process. I consider that the American administration has taken a very important step. And this allows the whole process to take on an absolutely new character. In my last conversation with the President of the United States I agreed that Russia should participate in this process. Of course we will also participate in this process.<br><br>Our main position is well known. We are against the use force in any circumstances. That is clear. <br><br>We also think it is too early to talk about sanctions. We must engage in a detailed and profound discussion with the Iranian leadership. Only after that will it be possible to speak about the process’ prospects for development. But in any case Russia is ready to participate actively in this process.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Iran sticks with USDollars

Postby Byrne » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:32 pm

A couple of articles from the Iranian news Agency website at <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.irna.ir/en/news/menu-236/" target="top">www.irna.ir/en/news/menu-236/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Emphasis mine</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Russia's Putin terms as "positive" 5+1 accord on Iran</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>Moscow, June 6, IRNA <br>Iran-Russia-US <br>Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday described as "positive" the recent accord made by foreign ministers of the United Nations five permanent member states plus Germany on Iran's nuclear program. <br><br>In a meeting with former US secretary of state, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Henry Kissinger</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, in a Moscow neighborhood, Putin said he believed that the latest joint steps taken on the Iranian nuclear issue demonstrated that Russia and the United States "are capable of finding a compromise in any circumstance," reported the Russian news agency Itar-Tass. <br><br>It further quoted Putin as saying that the views of Russia and the US "are far from being invariably identical, but in general we understand each other, and we find compromises." <br>The Russian president also said that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Moscow and Washington's "Joint counteraction</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> to terrorism <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>remains crucial</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->." <br>He said he had had a telephone conversation with his US counterpart the other day. <br><br>For his part, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Kissinger</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> said he was <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>perfectly aware</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> of the great importance the two countries' leaders attached to bilateral cooperation, and "that was most well seen in the six-party accord on Iran and the role Russia played in making those agreements a reality," Itar-Tass added. <br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-236/0606060103192437.htm" target="top">www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-236/0606060103192437.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>FM, Solana confer on EU's proposed plan Tehran, June 6, IRNA <br> <br>Iran-Solana-Nuclear <br>European Union Foreign Policy Chief Javier Solana and Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki here Tuesday conferred on the EU3's proposed plan for Iran's peaceful nuclear program. <br><br>According to a report released by the Foreign Ministry's Media Department, at the meeting, Mottaki said that the result of his current talks with Solana sets a new perspective. <br><br>"I believe that if momentum is given to our political will, grounds will be prepared for reaching a political agreement. Iran is determined politically to find a just solution based on meeting its legitimate right," he added. <br><br>Expounding on Iran's strategic principles with respect to its nuclear program for peaceful purposes within the framework of laws, Iran's interests and rights as well as the current concerns, the minister said that the art of diplomacy should manage to come up with a balanced strategy. <br><br>Briefing Solana on the present conditions of Iran's nuclear research, he said, "What is important is our right to nuclear research and we expect the issue to be fully clarified during the talks. <br><br>"<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Just as we take time to identify our rights to nuclear technology, we equally try not to deviate from the peaceful course in our nuclear activities. We believe that conditional talks will make it quite difficult</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->." <br>Mottaki explained the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>history of Iran's nuclear program</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and its cooperation with Europe <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>and the US</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> since 1957 and said that Iran-US nuclear agreement <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>dates back to 1957</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. <br><br>"The right of all nations to access nuclear energy was underlined in the introduction to the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>1957 Iran-US agreement</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. According to the project, 30,000 MWs of electricity was to be generated from nuclear energy," concluded Mottaki. <br><br>For his part, Solana pointed to his talks with the Secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) Ali Larijani and said that it was held in a constructive atmosphere. <br><br>"It has been tried to take into view Iran's requirements to nuclear energy for peaceful purposes through the incentives offered," he added. <br><br>Solana hoped that Iran will consider all aspects of the proposed package, take time to examine it carefully, without haste, before responding. <br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Maybe Iran's backing off from the Euro Bourse is allowing a diplomatic solution to be arrived at. Things are developing, China's <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-06/06/content_4654232.htm" target="top">news site</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> is remaining undecided with <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>'Irani negotiator: new proposal contains "positive steps" and "ambiguities'</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>Aparently one of the US negotiating points is the supply of Boeing aircraft parts - that's handy - one of 'em crashed earlier this year.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Asian Development Bank warns of threatening monetary turmoil

Postby elpuma » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:09 pm

<br><br>The oil trade is uneasy about the increasing impossibility of reinvesting the petrodollars they are accumulating, whereas the bank world is pondering over the dollar’s real value. A downturn in trade has just begun on the stock exchanges of the Gulf, even as the Asian Development Bank was warning its members against a possible collapse of the US currency. What if the dollar was really no longer anything but fiat money?<br>        <br>For several months a lively debate has been developing within international financial circles: is the dollar so overvalued as to be at risk of a brutal collapse, on the order of 15 to 40% depending on the commentator? The controversy is kept alive by a disputed rumour whereby some oil contracts might be on the verge of being converted from dollars into euros. This, in turn, would spawn a depreciation of the US currency.<br><br>Until now, official statements on this issue seemed to belong to the realm of psychological warfare between rival powers. As such, they were subject to question. But suddenly, on March 28th, 2006, the Asian Development Bank (ADB) chose to put its credibility at stake among its members by issuing a memo advising them to be ready for a collapse of the dollar. In the same note, the ADB specifies that there is a certain degree of uncertainty as to whether this might happen or not, but that the immediate consequences would be severe if it were to happen. The ADB is already in the process of working on the creation of a regional alternative to the dollar – the ACU, a basket of currencies modelled on the principles of the European ECU.<br><br>The ADB was founded as an institution by sixty-four national states. Contrary to what its name might otherwise suggest, its member states are not only countries from Asia and the Pacific Rim, but also countries from the South Sea Islands, North America and Europe (including France, Belgium and Switzerland). It is controlled in equal parts by Japan and the USA, owning 15% each. This makes the ADB’s warning of an impending monetary turmoil all the more significant.<br><br>In spite of being located in Asia, the countries of the Persian Gulf are not members of the ADB. Six of them have preferred to set up their own regional organization, the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC). They are actively putting efforts into bringing their economies closer together with the aim of creating a single currency on the model of the euro. The project’s aim is not to give in to the fads of our time; rather, it is a response to a particular need. These countries’ oil reserves are declining and, accordingly, there is no question of their reinvesting their petrodollars into the development and modernisation of their oil infrastructure - only maintenance needs to be taken care of. They only want to reinvest their dollars in the US, or to convert them into other currencies in order to reinvest them in other countries. In the latter case, the conversion of such large monetary assets would have dramatic consequences on the dollar and on the US economy.<br><br>Thus, everyone is looking for a solution to the problem that is agreeable to all parts involved. Yet, the US, which produces increasingly fewer consumer goods, is in need of extensive and highly lucrative investments in order to expand its imports of manufactured goods from China. This is why the Gulf states have resolved, on the one hand, to endow themselves with the world’s most impressive air cargo fleet and, on the other hand, to buy and develop the six largest commercial ports in the US. This was a convenient solution for the Bush administration, which was already working together with the United Arab Emirate consortium Dubai Ports World, whose Jebel Ali shipping terminal serves as a hub for the flow of military cargo towards Afghanistan and Iraq.<br><br>Nevertheless, US congressmen, who believe in those Bush administration fairy tales that characterize all muslims as terrorists, have been frightened by the idea of surrendering their ports to Dubai Ports World. In the name of their national security phantasms, they have demanded that the consortium’s assets be relinquished to a US group that would manage them on behalf of the Emirates - a scheme which, needless to say, was bound to be rejected by the latter, as they would stand to lose most of the return on their investment and perhaps even the whole of it at some point in the future.<br><br>Oil traders are increasingly reluctant to entrust investment funds with their money. They know that international accounting standards have been modified in such a manner that nowadays, both national states and multinational corporations have assets they do not own entered in their balance-sheets. The shares they hold are being posted in their accounting, not at the purchase price, but at the actual stock quotation. While this is of no consequence at times when markets are on the rise, it will prove fatal in the case of a stock market crash. From one day to the next, central banks and major corporations could find themselves completely ruined.<br><br>The Gulf countries, therefore, are trying as a matter of course to invest their money in Europe. This should lead them to converting their dollars into euros, to the USA’s great detriment. In this context, Sultan Al Suweidi, the governor of the Central Bank of the United Arab Emirates, has announced on March 22nd, 2006 that he was considering the conversion into euros of 10% of the bank’s dollar reserves, and his Saudi counterpart, Saud Al Sayyari, publicly condemned the decision of the US House of Representatives in the Dubai Ports World affair.<br><br>These decisions are being taken even as some of the oil-producing countries, with whom Washington has entered into a state of latent conflict, are in the process of diverting their capital flows to invest them outside of the dollar zone. This is the case of Syria, which has gradually been converting its reserves into euros during the past two years. It is also the case of the recent rapprochement between Venezuela and the Vatican Bank for the purpose of exchanging the oil-producing country’s dollars, mainly into euros and Chinese yuan.<br><br>Above all, this could well be the case with Iran. As a matter of fact, rumours are multiplying that the Islamic Republic is about to open an oil exchange in euros [5]. This project, announced for March, has not yet seen the light of day, and has been called propaganda by numerous commentators. We have attempted to verify its existence with the authorities in Tehran. At first, they refused to either confirm or deny the information, but later, special advisor to Iran’s Oil Minister Mohammad Asemipur declared that the project would be brought to completion in spite of the typical delays when realizing this type of endeavour [6]. The Oil Bourse in euros will be established on Kish, a small island in the Persian Gulf turned by Iran into a free trade zone. Oil corporations TotalFinaElf (France) et Agip (Italy) have already set up their regional headquarters on Kish.<br><br>Be that as it may, the Bourse will only handle a small portion of Iran’s energy markets. Substantial contracts have already been signed between national states: with China for the sale of crude oil, and with Indonesia for oil refining.<br><br>To counter this activity, Washington is betting on natural gas, the role of which, as we all know, is bound to be strengthened by the growing scarcity of oil. The Bush administration has encouraged Qatar – which hosts CENTCOM, the US Central Command’s Deployable Headquarters and which holds the world’s third largest reserves of natural gas – to lay the foundations for a gigantic "Energy City". $2.6 bn. are to be invested for the purpose of attracting the energy market’s global actors to a gas exchange in dollars. Microsoft has already offered to provide for the bourse’s electronic brokerage infrastructure.<br><br>For his part, Norwegian Bourse director Sven Arild Andersen is studying the possibility of creating an oil exchange priced in euros in his country, which would compete advantageously with the City of London. As a matter of fact, as British oil production is slumping (minus 8% in 2005), the weight of the City’s influence is appearing increasingly disproportionate.<br><br>The ADB warning of a pending monetary turmoil will undoubtedly bring about a hastening of all this large-scale scheming. Independent of the oil trade’s reasoning with regard to the possibilities of reinvesting petrodollars, the banking sector is also concerned with the real value of today’s dollar.<br>One might remember that the US were not able to finance their war effort in Vietnam for very long. Mired in a conflict without end, they resolved to let their allies bear the brunt of the situation, and, in 1971, they stopped guaranteeing their currency’s gold convertibility. From then on, its value has only been resting on the confidence placed in it. The dollar is no longer supported by the economy of the issuing country, but by the economies of those utilizing dollar reserves; banks, however, are able to verify the currency’s adequacy using the M-3, an annual indicator which establishes the volume of greenbacks in circulation.<br>Presently, the USA is bogged down in Iraq and is incapable of financing its military occupation there. The only way it can pay its suppliers is to keep the printing press running. The announcement, late in March 2006, that the publication of the M-3 indicator would be suspended, together with all the sub-indicators which could have made feasible its reconstruction by aggregates, means that the actual volume of dollars in circulation has become a secret that cannot be divulged. It is no longer possible to precisely evaluate the currency’s real value.<br><br>Through a cascading effect, the US are also concealing the costs of their presence in Iraq in order to hide the size of the fraud they are committing.<br>Refusing to cover up for an escapist monetary policy which sooner or later is bound to lead to a catastrophe comparable to 1929, several senior officials of the FED, the US Federal Reserve, have tendered their resignations.<br><br>In an interview to the German weekly Der Spiegel, Nobel Prize Laureate in Economics Joseph Stiglitz has estimated the real budget of the US war effort in Iraq to be in range of $1 to $2 trillion over the first four years, in other words two to four times higher than the official figures. The hidden part of the war budget thus stands at $500 billion to $1.5 trillion. This sum, if it were to be publicly accounted for, would have to be added to the US public deficit, which is already soaring at over $400 billion per year. It is being absorbed by the printing of worthless paper dollars. In a true market economy, this use of the Mint would lead to a corresponding depreciation of the currency.<br><br>For the past three weeks, signs of a bear market have begun to make their appearance on the Gulf Bourses. From now on, any political crisis could trigger a panic on the international markets.<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This is a recent article from Voltairenet.org, 04/18/06. I haven't been able to find anything more recent in the mainstream media to corroborate the creation of Iran's Euro-Bourse. I have also been unable to substantiate the Iranian Oil Minister's recent quotes to the contrary. If any readers can find anything current, please post.[<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This is a recent article from Voltairenet.org, 04/18/06. I haven't been able to find anything more recent in the mainstream media to corroborate the creation of Iran's Euro-Bourse. I have also been unable to substantiate the Iranian Oil Minister's recent quotes to the contrary. If any readers can find anything current, please post.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Iranian Oil Bourse nearly ready to open

Postby elpuma » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:26 pm

6/5/2006 12:23:00 PM -0400<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This just in from UPI.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>TEHRAN, June 5 (UPI) -- The Iranian Oil Bourse is in its final stages, Iran's Fars news agency reported Monday.<br><br>According to the Fars report, the board of directors of the International Bourse Co., which is charged with establishing the bourse, will review the final draft of the articles of association of the Iranian bourse this week.<br><br>The International Bourse Co. was registered last month, with an initial capital of $2,000, and is charged with setting up the Iranian Oil Bourse on Kish Island. The IBC is owned by the National Iranian Oil Co., which has an 80 percent stake, and by with Kish Free Zone Organization and the Mostaz'afan and Janbazan Foundation, each of which hold 10 percent stakes.<br><br>Once the IBC finalize the draft, the articles of association will be sent to the body in charge of securities for review.<br><br>The bourse will be established in phases; following discussions of the first phase, rules and bylaws involving the establishment, running, equipping and opening of the bourse will be negotiated.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Iranian Oil Bourse nearly ready to open

Postby elpuma » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:28 pm

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Re: Iranian Oil Bourse nearly ready to open

Postby Byrne » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:54 am

Thanks for the info, elpuma.<br><br>There has been a distinct lack of official pronouncements from Iran on its Oil Bourse Plans.<br><br>The recent announcements (Iran/USDollars at the start of this thread) surprised me, however I think the Bourse issue is unsettled at the moment & things should develop very soon, as I don't doubt for a minute that Iran's plans for a Bourse & whether they are (able to be) enacted are tied up with the current US led threat to use military action against Iran (on the premise of curtailing Iran's nuclear 'research').<br><br>Iran has still to respond to the proposals tabled by EU Foreign Policy Chief Javier Solana (although noises made by the western media were indicating mute positiveness).<br><br>I'm sure the whole subject will be discussed at this years bilderbergers conference which starts today 'til June 11th. There will probably be some movement after that, although it would mean one side loosing face.<br><br>I just newsgoogled & found this article re the nuclear standoff::<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleView/Default.asp?NewsCode=43512&NewsKind=Current%20Affairs" target="top">www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleView/Default.asp?NewsCode=43512&NewsKind=Current%20Affairs</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>US adopts new tack in Iran nuclear standoff </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>Thursday, June 08, 2006 - ©2005 IranMania.com <br> <br>LONDON, June 8 (IranMania) - The US government, which has reportedly dropped its opposition to uranium enrichment by Iran at some stage in the future, has changed its tack in the face of Iran's technological advances, according to diplomatic sources, AFP reported.<br><br>A week after saying it was willing to engage in direct negotiations with Tehran, President George W. Bush's administration has agreed behind closed doors to a possibility that Iran could enrich uranium in coming years, but only if it suspends its current enrichment program and talks go well, according to diplomatic sources in Vienna and Tehran who requested anonymity.<br><br>Washington on Wednesday refused to confirm or deny the reports, down-playing them as "hypothetical."<br><br>State Department spokesman Sean McCormack told reporters that Iran must first "suspend all enrichment- and reprocessing-related activities" on its soil before negotiations could begin.<br><br>"Beyond that, I am not going to speculate. Beyond that, we are truly into the realm of the hypothetical and theoretical," he said.<br><br>The reports come after Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said last Wednesday that Washington was ready to join international talks on Iran's nuclear program, but with certain caveats.<br><br>Rice said the US would readily join negotiations "as soon as Iran fully and verifiably suspends its enrichment and reprocessing activities".<br><br>Iran was Wednesday weighing an international offer of incentives if it agrees to suspend uranium enrichment, with officials neither rejecting the offer nor indicating they would meet the condition.<br><br>According to State Department sources, Rice decided to change tack with regards to US policy toward Iran partly due to Iran's technological advances in recent months.<br><br>Iran has since April 11 been enriching uranium at a centrifuge cascade in Natanz but only to levels of up to five percent enriched, which is far below the 20 percent level considered to be HEU (highly enriched uranium), the UN nuclear watchdog agency has said.<br><br>Centrifuges arranged in production lines called cascades enrich uranium for nuclear reactor fuel, or in highly refined form, for atomic bomb material.<br><br>"We knew we had this card to play, we wanted to play it at the right time," said a State Department official who requested anonymity. "We want it to work. We hope they make the right choice."<br><br>A different department official said: "The fundamental turning point was when Iran took the seals off the plant at Natanz in January and that since then they've made it clear that they intend to continue with enrichment and enrichment R and D (research and development)."<br><br>"We don't want to give them a reason to say 'no' in order to save face," a third high-level official said.<br><br>Washington has accused Tehran of seeking nuclear weapons, but Iran says its program is strictly for peaceful purposes.<br><br>The package of international "carrots" -- which offers trade, diplomatic and technology incentives in return for a freeze of enrichment -- was drawn up by Britain, France and Germany and is backed by the United States, Russia and China.<br><br>It is aimed at resolving fears that Iran could acquire nuclear weapons yet at the same time seeks to guarantee the country's access to atomic energy.<br><br>Iran's top national security official Ali Larijani has said it contained "positive steps" but also "ambiguities" -- signalling no immediate decision from Tehran was likely.<br><br>For now US diplomats here are hoping the latest proposals will calm international nerves over Iran and help ease the West's diplomatic standoff with the Islamic republic. <br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The article is not saying much really. Iran's latest pronouncement is <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-236/0606082432100707.htm" target="top">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->.<br><br>Wait & see i guess. <p></p><i></i>
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US and Iran make "nicey-nice"

Postby JD » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:08 pm

Fascinating as I draw the connection to Iran signalling it will continue to use the US dollar and the political tension eases. Best illustrated by reading this article:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/v4/sub/MarketingPage?user_URL=http://www.theglobeandmail.com%2Fservlet%2Fstory%2FLAC.20060608.RHEINZL08%2FTPStory%2F%3Fquery%3Dheinzl&ord=1149793091797&brand=theglobeandmail&force_login=true">www.theglobeandmail.com/s...login=true</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Partial text below as you must be registered to read it (oh yeah I typed the extract below - hence it is not complete) In the whole article there is no mention of the Iranian bourse, the petrodollar, nothing. The silence on this topic is deafening. Anyways here is a few paragraphs:<br><br>Energy stocks take a beating as US and Iran make nicey-nice<br><br>John Heinzl<br>The Globe and Mail, Thursday June 8, 2006, Page B15<br><br>A big win for world peace. Another big loss for the stock market.<br><br>With Iran ready to play "Let's Make a Deal" over its nuclear program, that sound you heard yesterday was the price of oil - and the S&P/TSX - going splat . Again. And the way things are going, there could be more belly-flops ahead.<br><br>"Yet both sides suddenly came to their senses"<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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I smell a BIG rat here.

Postby slimmouse » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:10 pm

<br><br> When the stock market freaks out, and we get "official" sources suggesting that the (quite possibly) extremely convenient timing of Zarquarwis "death" ( Again ), with all the media hype speaking of a "Backlash", then I begin to start looking at where we go from here.<br><br> Hell, if a mouse cant smell a rat, then who can <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> When you have to listen to a mainstream media that tells you how Zarquarwi and his firm are deliberately pitting Muslim against Muslim, and the absolute bollocks that this really is, then you dont need a 10 page essay to work out who is making the big plays. <p></p><i></i>
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I smell a BIG rat here

Postby elpuma » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:10 pm

For sure! How many times has al-Zarqawi died already? <br><br>--<br>Abu Musab al-Zarqawi: Dead Again<br>Thursday June 08th 2006, 7:52 am<br><br>Let’s see. Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the phantom terrorist with super-human powers, was killed in the Sulaimaniyah mountains of northern Iraq, and then he was killed in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul, followed by a death during Operation Matador near the town of Qaim on the Syrian border, and finally he was killed, along with his mentor, Osama bin Laden, in the besieged city of Fallujah. Now we are told he was “killed in a U.S. air raid north of Baghdad [in the town of Hibhib near Baquba],” according to Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, Reuters reports. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=401">kurtnimmo.com/?p=401</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>--<br><br>It's amazing how the big disinfo machine that is our mainstream media continues to insult our intelligence with these bedtime stories.<br><br>Obviously a smokescreen for some larger events at play, like the U.S. economy or perhaps even Bush's infidelities.<br><br>However, I'm also starting to think that this, and the recent media events in Canada and Britain - in addition to the recently announced Continuation of Government mock evacuation <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/02/AR2006060201410.html?sub%3DAR&sub=AR">www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/02/AR2006060201410.html?sub%3DAR&sub=AR</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> - could be a prelude to another "trigger" event..... and that worries me. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby elpuma » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:26 pm

Who was Abu Musab al Zarqawi?<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Great article from GlobalResearch.ca.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Intelligence Asset<br><br>The evidence suggests, however, that Zarqawi was part of a Pentagon disinformation campaign launched in 2003, which was initially intended to justify the US led invasion of Iraq. This central role of Zarqawi as an instrument of war propaganda was recently confirmed by leaked military documents revealed by the Washington Post. <br><br>The Pentagon had set up a "Zarqawi program". Military documents confirm that the role of Zarqawi had been deliberately "magnified" with a view to galvanizing public support for the US-UK led "war on terrorism":<br><br> "The Zarqawi campaign is discussed in several of the internal military documents. "Villainize Zarqawi/leverage xenophobia response," one U.S. military briefing from 2004 stated. It listed three methods: "Media operations," "Special Ops (626)" (a reference to Task Force 626, an elite U.S. military unit assigned primarily to hunt in Iraq for senior officials in Hussein's government) and "PSYOP," the U.S. military term for propaganda work..." (WP. 10 April 2006)<br><br>An internal document produced by U.S. military headquarters in Iraq, states that "the Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." (WP, op cit). (For further details see: Who is behind "Al Qaeda in Iraq"? Pentagon acknowledges fabricating a "Zarqawi Legend" - by Michel Chossudovsky - 2006-04-1<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Is Zarqawi's Death part of Pentagon PSYOP?<br><br>If indeed Zarqawi was fabricated to deliberately mislead public opinion, what are the implications of his death in the process of media disinformation? Is the killing of Zarqawi part of the Pentagon PSYOP program?<br><br>The Bush adminstration is already announcing "a post-Zarqawi era", suggesting that with the death of its presumed leader, the "insurgency" is in the process of being defeated. Zarqawi's death was an opportunity for the new government to "turn the tide", President Bush said. "The ideology of terror has lost one of its most visible and aggressive leaders." <br><br>The killing of Zarqawi has occurred at a time when Bush's public support is at an all time low, as confirmed by the opinion polls. In a press cxonferenc at the White House, Bush underscored the role of Zarqawi. as "commnders of the terrorist movement in Iraq. He led a campaign of car bombings, assassinations and suicide attacks that has taken the lives of many American forces and thousands of innocent Iraqis. Osama bin Laden called this Jordanian terrorist the prince of Al Qaida in Iraq. He called on the terrorists around the world to listen to him and obey him." <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060608&articleId=2604">www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060608&articleId=2604</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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any fillip in a storm

Postby wintler » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:18 am

IMHO Zarqawi's death was just 'good news' they could pull out at short notice. The Whitehouse & US Fed.Reserve are prepared for the decline in US dollar (about time to inflate away that pesky debt), but the increasing weakness and recent plunge in stock markets is nowhere on their wishlist. See the drop in oil prices? Thats what Zarqawi 'died' for, and for GWB's early morning press call, and in my country for a bit more US-leg-rooting by Downer and Howard. <br>Nightly news is giving 5min+ to Zarqawi, <1min to the escalating financial crisis. Watch the birdy, ladies and gentlemen, as your superannuation exits through the trapdoor.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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China and Russia reject joint statement on Iran nuclear prog

Postby Byrne » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:51 pm

It's all connected....<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>China and Russia reject joint statement on Iran nuclear program</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://uk.news.yahoo.com/13062006/323/china-russia-reject-joint-statement-iran-nuclear-program.html" target="top">(source)</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Tuesday June 13, 03:01 PM By by Michael Adler</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br> <br> <br>VIENNA (AFP) - China and Russia have rejected joining the West in a joint statement urging Iran to halt uranium enrichment, in diplomatic maneuvering ahead of a debate at the UN nuclear watchdog.<br><br>Diplomats played down the significance of this however, as China and Russia have already joined Britain, France, Germany and the United States in a ministerial agreement on June 1 calling on Iran to halt enrichment and join in talks on guaranteeing it will not make nuclear weapons.<br><br>"The effort <br><br>(Advertisement)<br>didn't work to do a joint statement in Vienna," a senior European diplomat told AFP.<br><br>But the diplomat said the six world powers "have never managed to get an EU-3 (Britain, France and Germany) plus three statement in Vienna," at meetings of the watchdog International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) which oversees cooperation by nations with the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).<br><br>A vigorous debate on Iran but no resolution is expected at this week's IAEA meeting of its 35-nation board of governors, with the Iranian issue expected to come up Wednesday or Thursday.<br><br>The EU-3 are expected to issue a statement of their own, with each of the six countries that have made the offer to Iran issuing individual statements.<br><br>Iranian allies Russia and China are both reluctant to threaten sanctions against Iran for nuclear work which the United States says show that Tehran wants to develop atomic weapons.<br><br>But the two nations closed ranks with the three European Union powers plus the United States in offering Iran talks on trade, security and technology benefits if it would suspend uranium enrichment, which makes nuclear reactor fuel but also atom bomb material.<br><br>Iran is currently examining the benefits package and is expected to respond by the end of the month.<br><br>"This has no influence on the overall situation," a Western diplomat said about the developments in Vienna, although this diplomat and others admitted that Iran would try to exploit any division, perceived or real, among the world powers.<br><br>But delegates from several non-aligned nations, of which China is a member, clearly do want to make a point, as they are preparing a statement that supports Iran's right to enrichment, as enshrined in the NPT.<br><br>A non-aligned diplomat said his group would "hold to a statement made by non-aligned foreign ministers in Kuala Lumpur in May," that backs Iran's right to enrich.<br><br>Diplomats said Washington was fighting to prevent non-aligned states on the IAEA board from issuing such a statement, which also is an expression of non-aligned concern over a US proposal to have nuclear fuel available in a multilateral reserve so that countries do not develop the ability to enrich uranium on their own.<br><br>The non-aligned diplomat said the bloc was planning a statement that would renew a message first issued May 30 in Malaysia, when the the Non Aligned Movement affirmed the right to atomic energy and opposed any attack on nuclear facilities.<br><br>"The Americans are not happy with that statement and told that to the NAM members," the diplomat said.<br><br>The United States wanted the bloc, which numbers some 16 mostly developing nations on the IAEA board, to stick to a February IAEA resolution calling on Iran to suspend uranium enrichment.<br><br>"The US point of view is that the Iranians should not be allowed to feel relaxed about enrichment, that the goal is to keep the pressure on them," the diplomat said.<br><br>A senior US State Department official said Washington did not want Tehran to press on with its enrichment activites while drawing out negotiations with the rest of the world.<br><br>With Iran being called on to answer the benefits offer within weeks, "we don't want the Iranian authorities to be considering this indefinitely," a senior US State Department official said.<br><br>"We don't want to be back into a situation we've seen before where they say they are prepared to negotiate but at the same time they just continue with their nuclear activities," the official said.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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