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What's Wrong With This Picture? NO-IMAGES-OF-DEAD-ISRAELIS

Postby elpuma » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:49 pm

Not that I'm normaly verbose, but the events in Lebanon recently have left me speechless. I submit some info. from the "Wake Up From Your Slumber" blog for review and comment....<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>First, let me be perfectly clear. I am NOT drawing conclusions about what ACTUALLY happened in Haifa yesterday. I was not there and have NO WAY of knowing, aside from what was presented to the world via images by Israeli sources in the mainstream media.<br><br>My conclusions pertain only to what can reasonably be gleaned from a pool of over 350 images from yahoo news - yesterday alone. It does NOT apply to images of events occuring afterwards, nor to images that were not available to me from yahoo news.<br><br>Consequently, my conclusions may be refuted with credible documented evidence of actual Israeli deaths occuring on July 16, 2006 as a direct result of Hizbullah fire, in the city of Haifa - if it exists.<br><br>I do not dispute that rockets were fired - I only question whether, based on the images presented, they caused the deaths attributed to them by Israelis.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Let me further make clear, that I am neither happy nor eager to see dead Israeli civilians. Every human life is equally sacred - not to be weighed and measured based on demographics, as if human life were a commodity.<br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>My goal is to examine the evidence presented as the basis and justification for the continuing massive, deadly, and merciless assaults on the people and nation of Lebanon today.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/">wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Dead Israelis

Postby yathrib » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:09 pm

Contrary to what this blogger may think, you don't have to be a Zionist dupe to find this disgusting. Does he have even the slightest shred of proof that the Israelis are faking their own casualties? No. Just the assumption that "those hymies are sneaky devils." Whether he knows it or not, he's crossed a line. All those vile antisemites commenting on it recognize one of their own. Ugh... <p></p><i></i>
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bullshit

Postby smithtalk » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:24 pm

actually yathrib i dont think he is an anti-semite,<br>it also appears to me that you have introduced the racist language,<br>how does anyone in the world know what hizbollah is actually doing?<br>the assumption for me is that if israel kills over 200 lebanese civillians in less than a week and hizbollah had only killed a couple of israelis it wouldnt look very good,<br>the reasons to inflate the numbers are obvious,<br>not that i am saying they have done this<br><br>i have been reading his blog for at least six months now and i think he is just a guy who has had enough of the gross double standards applied to the middle east and has the balls to say so,<br>it is the issue that dare not speak its name,<br>i for one am totally sick of any commentary against israeli state action being branded anti semitic,<br>if you actually read his comments he talks a lot about 'israeli' actions, not jewish,<br>and he talks a lot about money and bankers and is always qualifying that in describing rich bankers he is not describing ethnic groups,<br>it seems to me that he is utterly uniterested in the colour of skin or country of origin and very interested in oppression by financial and military means,<br><br>israel does not have the right to venture into whatever country it wants to, it is not interested in peace unless totally on its own terms, and has always sought the break up of any remotely powerful country in the region that it sees as challenging it,<br>and there is an ocean of documentary evidence to support this <p></p><i></i>
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Isn't the awful truth sufficient?

Postby yathrib » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:33 pm

I'll ignore your characterisation of my post as bullshit, and just assume you're having a bad day.<br><br>I do not view all criticism of Israel as antisemitic. But would anybody accuse any other people of faking their casualties? Isn't the awful truth that Lebanese and Palestinian casualties--by any accepted count--exceed Israeli casualties *geometrically* bad enough? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=yathrib>yathrib</A> at: 7/17/06 8:34 pm<br></i>
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Regarding the premise of the original post,

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:37 pm

here are a few images from Haifa I've just pulled off the wire services (to which I have access thanks to my other journalistic life):<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/JeffWells/subalbum1/haifa-funeral2.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/JeffWells/subalbum1/haifa-funeral3.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/JeffWells/subalbum1/haifa-wounded.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/JeffWells/subalbum1/haifa-wounded2.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/JeffWells/subalbum1/haifa-body.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/JeffWells/subalbum1/haifa-blood.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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your right yathrib

Postby smithtalk » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:47 pm

i am having a bad day,<br>cos i am not sure what this beautiful world is going to look like after the USA and Britain and Israel have pushed us into all out war in the middle east,<br>i am sick of turning on my nightly news and listening to bullshit about roadmaps,<br>i am sick of hearing about israels right to self defense,<br>i am sick of hearing about the 'civil war' in iraq,<br>i am sick of hearing about how nice it will be when we have bayoneted the middle east into democracy,<br>i am sick of bombs killing innocent people 'that bear all the hallmarks of al-queada',<br>i am sick of seeing photos of dead children,<br><br>and we are responsible, cos we have all opted for ipods and chaep shoes instead of engaging with the world around us,<br>my country has voted all my adult life for a man i detest and would like drop off in bagdad, john howard,<br>my former country has voted for a despicable stooge, tony blair,<br>and the worlds most hippocritical and schizophrenic 'democracy' has voted in large enough numbers to continue the reign of one of the most horrible families on earth,<br><br>to say i am having a bad day is a gross understatement<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: your right yathrib

Postby yathrib » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:48 pm

I think you pretty much describe all of us here. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: your right yathrib

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:56 pm

To much pain and the Israel government sucks.<br><br>I have actually heard a lot of Lebanese say they are sick of Hezbolla, Syria AND israel.<br><br>I think if they had the ability they would lift Lebannon up and drop it in the Pacific.<br><br>As one said on telly last night "Why does everyone decide to fight THEIR wars in our home."<br><br>Sure Israel is fucked. But they are also scared of fighting a ground war with Syria perhaps. If it comes to that I hope they do it in Israel or Syria. Not Lebannon.<br><br>But the whole thing raises serious issues.<br><br>Firstly Hezbolla is an impotant part of Labannnons defensive capacity. And according to lateline last week, or maybe the 7.30 report, hezbolla has been distancing itself from ties with Stria after the murder of that former PM or President.<br><br>Secondly, is Israel being expansionist? (I mean more so or trying to actually extend its territory.<br><br>Thirdly, has israel got so soft that they are scared of hand to hand fighting. I mean terrorising and bullying Palestinian teenagers isn't the same as fighting a well trained ground force. Especially one that may fight a guerrilla war in non urban territory.<br><br>There was another issue that was even more relevant, but I have forgotten what it was.<br><br>BTW That Mark Regev, a spokesman for the IDF said they were dropping leaflets warning people to leave before the bombing. On Lateline last night.<br><br>Robert Fiske was interviewed 10 seconds later and called him a liar. Or else uninformed. Our local member of Parliament (NSW not Fed) Is a Leb and was there in the last few weeks. His son is still over there unable to get out.<br><br>I doubt that'll change old Toms right wing screw everyone fetish tho. The prick basically did the same thing to Nimbin, minus the bombs and death, during the last Mardi Grass. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: your right yathrib

Postby xsic bastardx » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:33 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I wake up every day and read this. It is my right to question my Govt. and any Govt. that influences or manipulates it for thier own benfit. <br><br>Isreal bought and paid for this war in Germany in the Summer of 2001. We, the United States by pre-emptively invading a sovern nation, laid the ground work for the modern genocide. <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>somewhere jhon titor is smiling</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=xsicbastardx>xsic bastardx</A> at: 7/17/06 10:38 pm<br></i>
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