Hancock on drugs, entities, DNA

by **heyjt** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:14 pm

The comments following the article are also very interesting, with some links. I find his theory that our DNA is laden with ancient secrets, just waiting to be triggered, fascinating and true to me... DID DRUG CULTURES OPEN UP SPIRITUAL WORLDS? 8 readers have commented on this story. Click here to read their views. 09:30 - 09 December 2005 Ancient mysteries author Graham Hancock is no stranger to controversy - for his books and TV series generate a fierce academic backlash or their themes become wildly exaggerated in certain sections of the media. Yet he has millions of readers around the world who remain hungry for his profound and provocative insights into the lives of our distant ancestors. And his new book, Supernatural: Meetings With The Ancient Teachers Of Mankind, will surely be no exception - and he's the first to admit it - as it makes a case for the reality of the supernatural. "Now I'm exploring the possibility of beings which inhabit parallel dimensions we can relate to, I'm likely to get even more flak," he frankly told me at his 200-year-old townhouse in Bath this week. Graham attempts to explain why, about 50,000 years ago, humans suddenly began to think creatively after having evolved anatomically millions of years before. He believes that it was due to altered states of consciousness (ASCs) triggered by experimentation with hallucinogenic plants, such as ayahuasca, datura root and the psilocybin or "magic" mushroom. He suggests that art and religion can be traced back to these ASCs experienced by ancient shamans and their communities. Graham champions the view of South African anthropologist Professor David Lewis-Williams that strange symbols and figures repeated in ancient cave and rock art around the world - including creatures which appear to be part human and part animal - are the artistic record of drug-induced trance states in which the supernatural was encountered. To support his theory, Graham went to live with tribesmen in Peru and underwent the effects of psychoactive plants himself. "It was very much a life-altering experience for me because it impressed upon me as never before the relative nature of reality," he said. "I just can't be confident that this material world I touch and feel and function in physically is the sum total of reality. There's much more, and it's more than likely that consciousness can survive death in some way - it's separate from the body and a very mysterious force. "I have had direct experience of a parallel reality and I don't believe my brain made it up." Graham has found that everywhere through history the same entities have appeared to people in the visions induced by ASCs, accounting for, among other things, fairies, elves, angels and even UFO abductions. But are they "merely" visions, or hallucinations? Graham thinks not. He likens the brain to a TV receiver capable of tuning in to transmissions from other dimensions, or realities, the "spirit realms", if you like. He thinks a vital message from these realms, left by our "ancient teachers" - non-physical intelligences - may lie in our DNA, where it has been waiting for us since the beginning of life on Earth. GRAHAM said it was essential for him to experience ASCs himself in order to research his book. "I do feel there's a very important issue here concerning our consciousness and our sovereignty over it, concerning areas of consciousness we are willing to explore and not willing to explore," he said. "Everything I have learned about this subject has made clear to me the fundamental importance of ASCs. I feel our society is making a very serious error, cutting us off from these areas and demonising and criminalising their exploration. "I didn't have a view on that before. I never really thought about the drug laws, that for taking a hallucinogenic plant someone can go to prison for seven or eight years." Graham pointed out that our society favoured a "problem-solving consciousness", out of which many good things valued in the modern world, including our economic and technological progress had come. It was a very important part of consciousness, but it wasn't the whole story of the human being. "We have been encouraged to value only one aspect," he said. "There are other areas of experience which we have demonised, which are regarded as drug-taking if we seek that experience. I think we are forgetting this at our peril. I think it's a terrible error. "The right of the state to invade an individual's own head in their own house where they are not interfering with others - I don't see that the state should have that right. Having gone through my experience and researched this book on the role of ASCs I have come to feel this is an issue worth pursuing, and I do intend to speak out about it." n Supernatural is published by Century at £20. Email a Friend Email a friend about this story and story comments: Friend's e-mail address * Your name* Your e-mail address* Please type a message here * = Required Field Your Views I've read of experiences with 'DMT' that result in a common hallucination. Several folks would take this substance apart from each other and have virtually identical experiences...they would actually meet creatures and converse with them. If anyone is aware of further research on DMT, please post a link for all. Jeff, Earth Worth looking into. Reminder though that those shaman are the same "enlightened" guys who will convince their fellow tribsmen to go on revenge and headhunting excursions to cure someone's headache. Hundreds of years ago, no advanced beings warned them that sadistic greedy bastards would arrive to infect them with smallpox. There is simply no way to romantisize this. Life in the bush takes its toll, sickness and low lifespan are the rule. Allen, USA The Powers That Be will do anything they can to stop people (specially the young) from expanding their consciousness outside the "mass media-approved" boundaries. XTC is a classic example of how a substance with the potential to drastically expand people's experience of reality (if used wisely), has been demonized with the clear goal to scare off mostly the young people using it. Hey, let's face it: they want to keep us in bondage so we can keep swallowing their propaganda without questioning... Gerald Mitton, Amsterdam, Netherlands Our creater, the ALL, as he likes to be called, gave us these mind expanding substances, whether they be natural(mushrooms) or artificial(lsd)so we could get in touch with our higher power, the ALL. Peace be with you..... Darren, Port Angeles Wa Open my website at:www.stargate-chronicles.comI was the REAL X-Files at Cape Canaveral and the Kennedy Space Center, Florida 1958 to 1992.NASA has a scientific astrological team that matched and selected astronaut teams for lunar missions and other flights into space. Did it stop at that??Clark Clark C. McClelland, ScO, Earth, USA!! Tom Horn, and American researcher of the paranormal and ancient history just finished a long 14-part series on this subject. His conclusions are startling here: <a href="http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/stargates.htm">www.raidersnewsupdate.com/stargates.htm</a> Donna Anderson, Oregon, USA This story is very similar to what Terence Mckenna studied and wrote a few books about. I suggest to anyone interested in this topic to look him up and read True Hallucinations, The Archaic Revival, or any of his other books. Peter, California Many years ago I ran across a US Army study on the effects of mescaline on our troops. The results of the tests indicated that the use of mescaline made a person harder to hypnotize, less suggestable.If we equate hypnosis with mind control and if we see the mass media as a form of thought control (they supply the things we think about) then we can easily see the reason that consciousness expanding plants are repressed by those who would control our societies. Bill Walker, Kauai, Hawaii

by **marykmusic** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:01 pm

Whoah, I think I may have met the guy on one of my trips to South America over 30 years ago... or maybe it was one of my OOB journeys... There's a lot to be said about discovering that this 3D world is NOT the whole of reality. But drugs, even in original herbal form, are not the only way to learn this. --MaryK

by **banned** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:31 am

...ever see that famous photo of a spider web spun by a spider on LSD? "Graham attempts to explain why, about 50,000 years ago, humans suddenly began to think creatively after having evolved anatomically millions of years before. He believes that it was due to altered states of consciousness (ASCs) triggered by experimentation with hallucinogenic plants, such as ayahuasca, datura root and the psilocybin or "magic" mushroom." Please name one single substantive advance for humanity invented or discovered by someone who was on hallucinogens. Is it an accident that most of the cultures that use these drugs routinely are small and primitive? Sure, you could say that they are rich spiritually, as they sit around eating/chewing/drinking their substance of choice. Then again, maybe they're just fucked up. This is bosh. I do so wish people who like to get fucked up would just say "I like to get fucked up" instead of making all these ludicrous claims for the benefits of getting fucked up. Oops, didn't I get myself in hot water when I said something similar about the 'marijuana builds strong bodies 12 ways' folks? Fire pit here I come [donning asbestos longjohns].

by **NewKid** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:48 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Please name one single substantive advance for humanity invented or discovered by someone who was on hallucinogens.<hr></blockquote> Hancock claims that Crick discovered the double helix on LSD. (Page thirty-eight) <a href="http://download.dailygrail.com/subrosa/SubRosa_Issue2-Spread.pdf" target="top">download.dailygrail.com/subrosa/SubRosa_Issue2-Spread.pdf</a>

by **Biggie** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:54 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>This is bosh. I do so wish people who like to get fucked up would just say "I like to get fucked up" instead of making all these ludicrous claims for the benefits of getting fucked up.<hr></blockquote> I like to get fucked up. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=biggie@rigorousintuition>Biggie</A> at: 12/12/05 9:54 pm

by **banned** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:43 am

I've heard the LSD/DNA connection too, but has Crick ever confirmed that? Not that it would prove anything if he hadn't...I mean, accepting the Nobel by saying "Man, I was so fucked up that night I was seeing giant pink cockroaches that sang 'Proud Mary' in Old Lithuanian, and then BAM! it came to me, like, what if our DNA was a helix--no, wait, a DOUBLE helix! Then I screamed for Watson to get that cucaracha OFF me, man, it was eating my legs! But that was OK because my legs grew right back! That was the best windowpane I ever did, and it got me the Nobel prize--cool, huh?"

by **scollon** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:24 am

I suspect without drugs there would be no music, no art, no advertising, nothing exciting. Steve Balmer (Microsoft) said on TV that the whole modern computer industry was developed by those taking LSD and without it, there would have been no Windows. Gates himself was living in some geek commune taking drugs as well. Drugs and human development go hand in hand. I have stopped because I suspect that somehow it never works in the long run which is probably why we live in such a fucked up world. Not just those who take drugs are affected but everyone who is buzzed up on their products like music. The hippy generation straightened out and voted for Reagan, so did their kids. That's what bothers me. The party may be coming to a close. I could be completely wrong but the foreboding about a police state future coming soon is very strong.

by **heyjt** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:40 am

Ah, nothing to get so excited about... Anybody who has taken psychedelics knows they are a break-through drug. They exist to show a diferent reality map. You still exist, but the world is waves and thunderbolts and soft meadows. It is to shatter those reality-tunnels people live their entire life in, and then they (drugs) are no longer necessary. I was taken,however, by his theory that DNA harbors deep secrets waiting to be triggered and un-locked by "altered states"...

by **ivanbo2003** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:45 am

These New Age\Luciferian cult-like theores like "Ascended Masters\super evolution\"they" created us\Not God Most HIgh\" keep poping up every now and then and almost always the one who claims he discovered "new truth" or "theory" was on some kind of a drug(and he loved it of course,and he wants probably more,and more...,and he becomes a junky and so on...) Do these Lucifer(ians) (Alice Baily or Benj. Creme inspired) ever sleep?Not...They are so high (i guess even literaly "high"-with the Devil) that they don't see that they are being "Delphied" We'll see this kind of cr*p more and more me thinks

by **elsiecow** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:48 am

Well, what has changed since the sixties? THE INTERNET. It may be fashionable among countercultural types to take it for granted, but they have got to get out of their mindset. The reactionaries DON'T LIKE this internet thing, and probably never will, unless they can meddle with it and spread their disinformation all over the place and scare people away from it. It does us no good to downplay the importance of this new media. For example, I read a news item not too long ago that said that many in the corporate world were concerned about Google. That should be GOOD news for us. We can't afford to be defeatist at this point. The bad guys are the ones who wish people couldn't read about all of their dirty laundry online. As for the 'hippy' generation, a lot of those people weren't committed to social change in the first place - it was a fad, a lifestyle thing. My own parents haven't changed their values, just because they wear different clothes or hair. It was never about what you looked like or what you bought - it was about what values you had. Go back and look at who voted for Nixon in 1972. A police state in the FUTURE? When have American cities NOT been a police state? If anything, the police state is dying, it won't survive the fact that people can document it more readily these days. And that is the problem that THEY have. I am incredulous that someone would talk about 'a police state in the future' as if there had never been a police state, especially someone who speaks glowingly of those lovely sixties. I wasn't around then, but I can remember the early seventies, being harassed and afraid all of the time...and some of the 'agents' doing the harassing were long-haired fake 'hippies', nasty scum. What about the thirties and harassment and surveillance and brutalization of workers? What about the late forties and fifties and McCarthyism? What about the sixties and the backlash against the civil rights movement? The sixties and early seventies weren't the ideal that some people make it out to be. As a child, I can remember feeling afraid and followed a lot. By the way, I was given hallucinogens and hated them. I like feeling in control of my reasoning faculties - I need them to write and research. That sort of drug research may have been important in the past, for intelligence purposes, but new media and new situations demand new approaches. I'm seeing the crisis on the 'net and what is really crucial is the need to teach critical thinking and logic and an antidote to romanticism and muddled thought. History has shown that romantic, escapist ideologies attract fascists. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=elsiecow>elsiecow</A> at: 12/13/05 6:59 am

by **mxmendo** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:19 pm

dock ellis pitched a no-hitter on lsd in 1970, and claims he focused on this from the 4th inning on... <a href="http://www.snopes.com/sports/baseball/ellis.asp">www.snopes.com/sports/baseball/ellis.asp</a>

by **Trifecta** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:33 pm

Banned, plenty of work has been done in this area. Stan Grof's work documents architects whom designed mental hospitals based on empathy with the patients on the trips, Huxley wrote about real transcendence and of course Norman Mailer in the Gospel according to the Son, postulated that Jesus had eaten them while up in the mountains. Further, most indigenus tribes embide entheogens for rites of passage and some even believe most modern day religions were originally formed out of mushrrom use ...I think is was Eliade who wrote The Sacred cross and the mushroom. This is a great site for more info <a href="http://www.v72.org/">www.v72.org/</a> Leary and his crew got one thing right only, set and setting is paramount to having a transpersonal experience and I concur with most of the good literature surrounding this most neglected area of the human psyche.

by **professorpan** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:46 pm

It's no use talking to banned about the benefits of psychedelics. For evidence, visit the fire pit and see my previous attempts to discuss medical marijuana. For those interested in current work in this area, visit maps.org. There is some very promising research underway on MDMA (Ecstasy) for treating PTSD.

by **antiaristo** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:56 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Uh, did this guy Hancock... ...ever see that famous photo of a spider web spun by a spider on LSD?<hr></blockquote> banned, I remember it well. But I think you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. The scientists studied the webs woven by spiders under a variety of influences, including LSD, cannabis and alcohol. They showed us photos of the resulting webs. The one that was REALLY screwd up? That was the spider on CAFFEINE! There is no positive correlation between illegality and danger. That's what young people learn for themselves. And they never believe their government again.

by **dbeach** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:31 pm

drugs are part of Creation some abuse drugs becoming addicts some companies are dope dealers like the many criminal familiesrelated to bush ,clinton and CIA fronts which have led us into another unwinnable war 'the war on drugs' I don't use the stuff but think much should be legal and its sad that the govt has enslaved many people and communities and created a prison industry.. all at taxpayer expense and for their own greeeeed

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