Jessup's The Case For the UFO -- Varo edition

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Jessup's The Case For the UFO -- Varo edition

Postby glubglubglub » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:37 pm

I recently read the 'Varo' edition of Morris Jessup's the Case For the Ufo. Briefly, the nature of Jessup's book should be self-explanatory (he's pro-UFO), and the 'Varo' edition is a reprint of an annotated copy of Jessup's book. The annotations come in three colors and are assumed to belong to three separate commentators, although the ordering of their reads is a bit difficult to uncover and it was probably passed back and forth between them.<br><br>The book itself is pretty decent -- I haven't read enough late-50s, early-60s ufological literature to fully assess its merits, but it seems quite good -- and its contents together with the contents of the annotations are doubly interesting.<br><br>For those not familiar a pdf is available from here: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/Varo-Jessup.PdF">www.cassiopaea.org/cass/Varo-Jessup.PdF</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>For those familiar: thoughts? Anyone familiar with the background and what others have concluded? So fas as I can tell Jessup died shortly after finishing this (from suicide) and the annotations are sometimes assigned to a Carl Allen or Carlos Allende. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Jessup's The Case For the UFO -- Varo edition

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:21 pm

I haven't read the Varo edition, so thanks for pointing out an online version.<br><br>It's an interesting story. My gut tells me it's disinfo, particularly because of the involvement of Carlos Allende/Carl Allen, who was a principal source for the legend of the Philadelphia Experiment (which I think was a hoax to distract from radar and stealth research). Allende/Allen later sent Jessup a series of letters introducing the subject.<br><br>Jessup's annotated book was originally published by the Office of Naval Research. According to Dolan's UFOs and the National Security State, the introduction claims that the notations suggest an "intimate knowledge of UFOs, their means of motion, their origin, background, history, and habits of beings occupying UFOs." I have a hard time believing that the ONR would publish this if they truly thought so. I think it contains material intended to misdirect UFO research.<br><br>Jacques Vallee writes some about this in <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Revelations</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. He sees an "eerie parallel" with modern disinfo campaign, such as the one that drove Paul Bennewitz out of his mind. (The annotations appear to have contributed to Jessup's suicide.) <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 9/12/05 7:28 pm<br></i>
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Did a bit more searching...

Postby glubglubglub » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:56 pm

Dualing opinions on Allende's motivations/situation:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.aetherometry.com/unified_field/uft_index.html">www.aetherometry.com/unif...index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> (he comes up midway through this)<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.parascope.com/en/articles/allende.htm">www.parascope.com/en/arti...llende.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The first one, I think, is the best explanation I've seen for what actually was the deal with the 'philadelphia experiment'...which is surprising b/c before last night I thought it was entirely bunk. Definitely worth a read. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Did a bit more searching...

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:52 am

That first link especially looks very rewarding. Thanks.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Did a bit more searching...

Postby Dreams End » Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:32 pm

Interesting link...but I'm left with this question. Why not do the experiments on a small scale first. It sounds like they just went straight to trying to disappear a huge ship. Why not start with a model? Or is there discussion of that somewhere? Seems like they were surprised by the outcome on the ship, but I'd think it would not be surprising if they'd done the experiments on a smaller scale. One reason I've never bought the Philadelphia stuff. <p></p><i></i>
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good question...

Postby glubglubglub » Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:47 am

There's no explicit discussion of it in that 'interview' -- if there is a legitimate answer to your question I'd guess that it's one of the following (assuming legitimacy of the whole shebang, of course):<br>i) the experiment -- complete degaussing of large, mostly ferrous rods (from afar that's a boat for you) and subsequent ongoing degaussing of the magnetism induced by their passage through the earth's magnetic field -- would have depended or proved to depend significantly on the size and mobility of the rod, and between that and securing power supplies it made sense just to test it on a boat...if you have a choice between testing a 40+foot iron rod of boatlike diameter or a boat, the boat's easier to find.<br>ii) some other explanation is available that's obvious to anyone who actually has familiarity with the field and is therefore omitted -- 'w' doesn't make much effort to make his commentary accessible to people unfamiliar with the major players in naval camouflage research, and omitting some obvious -- to him -- details wouldn't be out of character.<br><br>Some additional thoughts:<br>i) You'll note the article with the dismissing take on Charles Allen/Carlos Allende paints him as some kind of idiot savant prankster, but the example prank -- faking a heart attack after researching the condition pretty extensively -- isn't that of a fabulist...Allen's motivation escapes me, but at least his cited prank is grounded in fact. <br>ii) If we take as operating assumption that Allen based his pranks on fact, his annotations take on some interesting significane: with our operating assumption in place we'd have to assume he had some reason for believing some version of Einstein's UFT had succeeded and allowed people to blink in and out, LM's and SM's actually do duel in our skies at times and live under our seas, etc...I don't know how warranted the above operating assumption is -- or how closely his claimed sources in his annotations would dovetail with the sources that inspired him -- but such an assumption would at least cast him and his info in new light; even as disinfo it takes on a different character.<br>iii) The stuff in the interview about the extreme amounts of work put into stealth technology and the extreme care taken to keep the development of stealth tech top-secret matches Nick Cook's findings very nicely; given that, both the prospect of some ship-scale invisibility project and the creation of an incredibly elaborate ship-based disinfo scale seem very reasonable (and not mutually exclusive possibilities).<br><br>End of rambling...suffice to say this puts the Phil. Experiment out of the circular file bin and into 'reopened, but a real mess and of very low priority mode'. <p></p><i></i>
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