Interaction w/ parallel universes...mainstream article

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Interaction w/ parallel universes...mainstream article

Postby dougr56 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:20 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn8766.html">www.newscientistspace.com...n8766.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Our universe may one day be obliterated or assimilated by a larger universe, according to a controversial new analysis. The work suggests the parallel universes proposed by some quantum theorists may not actually be parallel but could interact – and with disastrous consequences.<br><br>Random quantum fluctuations mean the behaviour of particles and photons of light cannot be predicted exactly. The quantum equations that describe them contain a variety of different - and opposing - outcomes in their solution, such as a particular particle causing a bell to both ring and not ring in an experimental setup. Physicists then have to use an equation called the Born rule to calculate the probability of the bell ringing, and <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>countless experiments</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> have shown the rule works.<br><br>But researchers have long struggled to understand why a bell will ring – or not ring – in any given run of an experiment, since in theory it has the option of doing both. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>This conundrum, known as the quantum measurement problem, has led a <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>small subset of physicists to argue that in fact the bell does do both - but that each possible outcome takes place in a different, parallel universe that pops into existence during the experiment.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>"This is what the math suggests if you take it literally," says Robin Hanson of George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia, US. But the idea that "every microsecond, the universe splits into a bunch more universes boggles the mind." <br><br>Destructive interaction<br>And this idea, called the "many worlds" interpretation, raises other problems. Some theorists say it suggests that physicists doing a quantum experiment would find themselves in a random world, such that they would have an equal chance of seeing the bell ring or not ring. But this does not match the well-tested Born rule, which may predict that the bell should ring 70% of the time, for example.<br><br>Physicists have attacked this problem in a number of ways. Now Hanson, an economist who also studies physics, is taking a new approach. He argues that these multiple universes are not actually independent, as was thought, but interacting and sometimes destructive.<br><br>Quantum theory states that all universes are not created equal - each "parent" universe is much larger according to a particular quantum measure than its later descendants.<br><br>Quantum interactions between the universes were thought to be too small to really affect them, but Hanson says the interactions can be significant between universes of vastly different size.<br><br>Boiled worlds<br>The interactions can "smash or mangle the small worlds", says Hanson. He has not worked out exactly what happens, but he believes the small universes would be either destroyed or assimilated by the large universes, like specks of dust colliding with a planet.<br><br>"It could act like a big random fluctuation, like suddenly making the temperature of the universe become really high and boiling everything," he told New Scientist. "Or it could be more peaceful, where you're simply converted into somebody who remembers stuff from the large world, so the statistics would be those of the large world."<br><br>In this scenario, Born rule predictions that a bell should ring 70% of the time in an experiment work out because small worlds – in which bells ring less or more often – are too mangled to be observed. Hanson says there is a cut-off between small worlds that become mangled and large worlds that do not, and that most universes are near or below this line.<br><br>That suggests that the universe we live in now could be mangled at any moment by a larger universe, he says. "It could be there's a moment of pain before the end," Hanson says. "But you could be comforted by the fact that versions of you will go on, even if you don't."<br><br>Finely tuned<br>Physicists who have studied Hanson's idea say it is interesting, though preliminary and probably flawed. Michael Weissman of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, US, says his biggest concern with the work is the notion of a cut-off.<br><br>He points out that the range of universe sizes is constantly growing. So the cut-off for what makes a universe observable must be perfectly balanced with that growth to produce the probabilities seen with the Born rule. "We don't have any real reason to think this fine-tuning will actually work out in practice," Weissman told New Scientist. <br><br>"It's interesting work and might feed into part of the Born rule problem," says David Wallace, a philosopher of quantum mechanics at Oxford University, UK. But he criticises Hanson's approach because "it doesn’t seem to handle one-off probabilities, only long-term sequences of probabilities," he told New Scientist. "It doesn’t tell us why right now we’d be better off betting on the bell ringing than not ringing."<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Interaction w/ parallel universes...mainstream article

Postby Dreams End » Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:06 pm

It's either "many worlds" hypothesis or some other hypothesis that suggests that consciousness really does "shape" reality by interacting with it (a problem that the parallel universe theory avoids).<br><br>Actually, either way, our common sense understanding of the world, at base, turns out to be wrong. And since the "non common" sense answers to these problems take pretty big paradigm shifts, our understanding now may turn out to be...well...really wrong. <br><br>A quick example would be the "ether", the alleged substance that must permeate all space so that light waves could propagate. After all, our common, every day experience says you can't have a wave without having some substrate to "wave" in, such as water or air. Since light is a wave, it must be moving in some sort of substance no matter how "ethereal". <br><br>Experiments showed that, in fact, there was no such "ether." And so we came to understand that light was different and could "wave" in a vacuum. To be honest, even this basic concept boggles me.<br><br>Let's all meet back here in fifty years and see how silly this all seems! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Interaction w/ parallel universes...mainstream article

Postby marykmusic » Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:15 pm

What I see here is confirmation of Seth (Jane Roberts) talking about Probable Realities. For each decision we make, there is still a probable universe formed, according to what would have happened had the decision gone the other way.<br><br>Rod Serling and Ray Bradbury had a pretty good understanding of this, as well (I was a real Bradbury nut back in junior high.)<br><br>It also covers the "sins of omission" Catholic catechism that I've mentioned elsewhere, which I've also called decision-by-indecision.<br><br>We are not alone. There are many alternate us's out there. More and more, physics is joining up with what metaphysicists have been saying... that we do, indeed, create our own reality. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Interaction w/ parallel universes...mainstream article

Postby Qutb » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:51 pm

I find the developments in theoretical physics between ca 1860 (James Clerk Maxwell) and the 1920s immensly interesting. Not least how the quantum physicists all ended up with a quasi-mystical and almost irrational view of the universe (which also mirrored the zeitgeist of the period). <br><br>Since the 1920s-30s, however, it seems that our acquisition of knowledge about how the universe fundamentally works has slowed down considerably. There's been a lot of very abstract theories about superstrings and parallel worlds, but none of them seem to really "pan out" or lead to any deeper understanding. <br><br>A few years ago, baffled astro-physicists made the discovery that the universe seems to be expanding at an accelerating speed, contrary to all existing theories about the universe, and nobody has any idea why. Some have proposed to reintroduce Einstein's infamous "cosmological constant", but it's just a mathematical equation, nobody understands what the underlying reality of this "constant" should be...<br><br>There's a lot we don't know, for sure. <p></p><i></i>
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ether -- not a totally discredited idea after all

Postby StarmanSkye » Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:06 am

The concept of 'ether' aka aether isn't dead -- Contemporary re-examinations of the Michaelson-Morley experiments have cast doubt on what the experiment actually measured or was capable of measuring. Like Einstein's Cosmological Constant, it's been revived in a new, improved form as essential to facilitating novel, expanded ideas about the nature of spacetime, the speed of gravitational force propagation, vacuum energy, string-theory, enfolded dimensions, quantum effects, and other modern ideas as Holistic Quantum Cosmology, attempting to reconcile special relativity with general relativity, theoretical differences between gravity and acceleration forces, and numerous contradictions/problems associated with the Big Bang model of universe origin (and other issues). <br><br>While early conceptions of ether postulated a mechanistic substance-like gas or vapor, modern notions in the last twenty years in support of the ether have ranged from identifying the ether in terms of the smallest particles -- etherons (that in-turn compose bosons and fermions), the medium of spacetime vacuum itself through which electromagnetic radiation of particles occurs, to the property of priveleged orientation or alignment with respect to the inflation or expansion of the early Big Bang Universe, to the potential-energy state matrix of the Universe's ground-state in which virtual particles wink into and out-of existence as per the vacuum energy which represents the 'missing' 'cold, dark matter' that helps explain the observed structure of galaxies and galactic filaments extending across billions of light years.<br>Following are a few links to discussions of revised relevance of ether from cosmological/physics context, while there are a great many more not listed from spiritual, philosophical, healing-arts, metaphycical and theosophical POV, ie. Gnostic Kabbalah, Orgone Energy and Reich, Brahma, Akassa, Fourth Order of Higher Evolution, Etheric Bodies, CaiDao, etc.<br><br>I don't doubt that in fifty years we'll look back at a LOT of things we'll have been wrong about. <br>Starman<br><br>Some links below exploring these and related ideas re: earth and cosmic ether from cosmology and physics perspectives (and links of special interest):<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.stardrivedevice.com/links.html">www.stardrivedevice.com/links.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Extraordinary new potential for our world exists in a revolutionary and patented new propulsion technology that may soon enable true interstellar travel – an all-electric reactionless space drive which is technically capable of breaking the light barrier!! And this StarDrive device, in a somewhat simplified form, could actually be utilized now for electric power generation on a commercial scale more efficiently and economically than virtually any other method known!<br><br>Links and reference page-- Promoting discussion of novel, revolutionary, ground-breaking ideas re: cosmology, quantum mechanics, design, astronomy, space-travel, physics, etc.<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.stardrivedevice.com/links.html">www.stardrivedevice.com/links.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.livingreviews.org/Articles/Volume1/1998-1rovelli">www.livingreviews.org/Art...8-1rovelli</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> : Loop Quantum Gravity: an excellent paper by Carlo Rovelli, who participated in the formulation of the celebrated Ashtekar theory of gravitation that's discussed in StarDrive Engineering (<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.stardrivedevice.com/contents.html).">www.stardrivedevice.com/contents.html).</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> Loop quantum gravity is perhaps the strongest competitor of string theory in presenting an acceptable picture of an aether-like discrete quantum microstructure of space-time that is consistent with general relativity.<br><br>www.rostra.dk/louis: an awesome treatise on "Holistic Quantum Cosmology with Decreasing Gravity" which reveals a new and unique theory of the universe, by Louis Nielsen, M.Sc. (senior physics master at Herlufsholm, Denmark). This unparalleled and multifaceted work may provide fundamental answers to many unsolved mysteries in astrophysics and to the unification of physics on the smallest and largest scales.<br><br>www.metaresearch.org: a well-designed astronomy-based website which offers excellent and thought-provoking online articles on gravity and cosmology, investigating views that are not always popular with the mainstream astrophysics community. Also offers a variety of books and publications on related topics.[It should be noted that lead astronomer Tom Van Flandern develops proof that gravity propagates at least 20 billion times faster than light. While some theorists have suggested that gravity propagates at or near infinite velocity, and many purists insist the value must be limited to light speed (c), StarDrive Engineering explores the somewhat intuitive and alternate intermediary position that gravity's speed of propagation is the square of the numeric value of 'c', for reasons based mainly on the mathematical elegance entailed. The issue remains without a definitive resolution, however, and makes for fascinating research.]<br>*<br>Reconciling Miller's Ether-Drift with Reich's Dynamic OrgoneA) Mass-free orgone energy filled all space, much like a cosmic ether. ... However, if the ether itself is in motion, acting as a cosmic prime-mover, ...www.orgonelab.org/MillerReich.htm <br>*<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=ether&sp-a=00042aba-sp00000000">search.atomz.com/search/?...sp00000000</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Link to 67 research/discussion articles re: evidence, basis for cosmic ether: <br>First 10:<br>1. No Title <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=4435&TOPIC_ID=308&FORUM_ID=9>">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...ORUM_ID=9></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ••• <br>...it simply to explain the Lorentz force law, as he and others believed that ether theories could not support it. However, he's wrong, see wisp theory -...<br>...that there is no need for a special theory that joins space with time, as an ether medium can support the Lorentz force law. 2. No one has done this...<br>...be of local origin, and he definitely ruled out local heating effects). 3. Ether theories can produce all of the relativistic effects that result from...<br>68% Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:36:41 GMT <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=...">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...method=...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>2. No Title <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=4379&TOPIC_ID=308&FORUM_ID=9>">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...ORUM_ID=9></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ••• <br>...<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Originally posted by wisp</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END-->Dayton Miller's ether drift experiments (similar to Michelson-Morley type experiments but more sensitive)...<br>...more sensitive) provide further proof that the speed of light is affected by ether flow. A review of his work by James DeMeo shows indisputable evidence...<br>...was affected by the sidereal period and this is clear proof of a cosmological ether drift effect. Normally any two-way Michelson-Morley type experiments...<br>67% Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:35:41 GMT <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=...">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...method=...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>3. No Title <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=4402&TOPIC_ID=308&FORUM_ID=9>">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...M_ID=9></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ••• <br>...But a Doppler shift derived from ether space can explain Doppler shift equally well, if not better than SR's. With an ether Doppler theory it is...<br>...motion relative to the ether, which gives a truer Doppler picture. If you fix either the source or observer's motion to zero in the ether, then you get...<br>...Doppler equations that are identical to SR - so SR is a subset of an ether model. An ether model gives a more credible reason for Doppler effect. wisp...<br>66% Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:35:59 GMT <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=...">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...method=...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>4. No Title <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=4316&TOPIC_ID=308&FORUM_ID=9>">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...M_ID=9></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ••• <br>...velocity c relative to its "local" ether frame. In terms of an absolute reference there may be very large movements in ether frames due to rotation...<br>...And so the quasar's speed may have two components, the ether motion + lights speed through its "local" ether. And there is no reason to doubt that this...<br>...relative to our reference frame is possible when there is any motion of the ether in a different location. wisp "particles of nothingness" <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->...<br>66% Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:34:36 GMT <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=...">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...method=...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>5. No Title <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=4424&TOPIC_ID=308&FORUM_ID=9>">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...ORUM_ID=9></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ••• <br>...<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Originally posted by wisp</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END-->The worst-case scenario for ether detection is if its flow is perpendicular to the ecliptic – Earth’s...<br>...velocity is 200,000 m/s. If this is correct then lights speed parallel to the ether flow will slow by (3E8 - square root[9E16-4E1<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> = 67 m/s) and this...<br>...on every point except the prediction of a change in the speed of light due to ether flow. I am a little concerned that the GPS route has too many...<br>66% Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:36:20 GMT <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=...">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...method=...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>6. No Title <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=4447&TOPIC_ID=308&FORUM_ID=9>">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...M_ID=9></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ••• <br>...one-way light speed test.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> See my remark about OWLS to Larry. <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Ether theories can produce all of the relativistic effects that result from...<br>...that the ether flow affects the GPS system, but its effect is symmetrical and the system self corrects any errors, effectively removing any offset ether...<br>...it is possible to imagine. <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Errors are removed every minute/hour and so ether flow errors never build up to show a <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> That is not...<br>66% Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:37:06 GMT <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=...">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...method=...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>7. No Title <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=4425&TOPIC_ID=308&FORUM_ID=9>">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...ORUM_ID=9></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ••• <br>...posted by tvanflandern[/i] <!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>[wisp]: The worst-case scenario for ether detection is if its flow is perpendicular to the ecliptic – Earth’s...<br>...velocity is 200,000 m/s. If this is correct then light's speed parallel to the ether flow will slow by (3E8 - square root[9E16-4E1<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> = 67 m/s) and this...<br>...<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This has shown that Miller and DeWitte have both revealed positive ether results with sidereal period variation. Even the original M-M experiment...<br>65% Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:36:23 GMT <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=...">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...method=...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>8. No Title <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=4321&TOPIC_ID=308&FORUM_ID=9>">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...M_ID=9></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ••• <br>Paradoxes Resolved, Origins Illuminated Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Members | Search | FAQ Username: Password:...<br>...- a sidereal day. This is evidence that the maybe a galactic component to the ether flow past the Earth. I don't think the test has been redone! But...<br>...in spacetime. It could be moving ether or moving space-time. For info on De Witte type into google search - De Witte ether wind. wisp "particles of...<br>...that the Earth is not a special frame and the result will measure the galactic ether flow. wisp - particles of nothingness Mac Posted - 23 Nov 2003...<br>65% Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:34:50 GMT <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=...">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...method=...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>9. No Title <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=4382&TOPIC_ID=308&FORUM_ID=9>">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...M_ID=9></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ••• <br>...posted by tvanflandern[/i] <!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>[wisp]: Dayton Miller's ether drift experiments (similar to Michelson-Morley type experiments but more sensitive)...<br>...more sensitive) provide further proof that the speed of light is affecte<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> Unfortunately, Miller's data provides only evidence of...<br>...that the Earth is not a special frame and the result will measure the galactic ether flow. wisp - particles of nothingness Mac Posted - 23 Nov 2003...<br>65% Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:35:43 GMT <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=...">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...method=...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>10. No Title <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=4238&TOPIC_ID=308&FORUM_ID=9>">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...ORUM_ID=9></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ••• <br>...don't know why nobody has done it yet? If there is a galactic component to the ether flow, it will make the time difference even bigger. quote:...when the observer's motion through the ether is set to zero. And also "the Lorentz Force Law cannot work in an ether flow". But wisp theory shows that...that the Earth is not a special frame and the result will measure the galactic ether flow. wisp - particles of nothingness Mac Posted - 23 Nov 2003...<br>64% Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:32:29 GMT <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=...">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...method=...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br>****<br>Link to 13 additional articles re: 'aether':<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=aether&sp-a=00042aba-sp00000000">search.atomz.com/search/?...sp00000000</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>****<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=3975&TOPIC_ID=283&FORUM_ID=8">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...FORUM_ID=8</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>The old aether idea remains dead. But the modern idea is looking good. It is an extension of the Lorentz Ether Theory, modified as suggested by Tangherlini, Beckmann, Hatch, and myself -- and using the Lorentz transformations in the form proposed by Mansouri & Sexl. We call this modern aether, somewhat entrained by every mass, "elysium".<br>*<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=4447&TOPIC_ID=308&FORUM_ID=9">www.metaresearch.org/msgb...FORUM_ID=9</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>… will prove the ether exists and end SR.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br> That much has already been accomplished. Our published paper last year showed that SR is now falsified in favor of LR. See “Experimental Repeal of the Speed Limit for Gravitational, Electrodynamic, and Quantum Field Interactions”, T. Van Flandern and J.P. Vigier, Found.Phys. 32(#7), 1031-1068 (2002).<br> But there is no aether drift. Nor should there be. Aether is well-entrained around each source mass by gravity. -|Tom|-<br>*<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.unifiedtheory.org.uk/">www.unifiedtheory.org.uk/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>The Grand Unified Theory -- Alan Cresswell (**Must-Look -- disenchanted engineer looks beyond outmoded, inefficient Industrial Revolution paradigm to new models of near-perfect energy systems; Finds specific relevance of/to cosmic aether)<br>--excerpt--<br>AN ENGINEERED SOLUTION FOR AN INFINITE UNIVERSE<br>An astro-physics singularity is a mathematical euphemism for an absurdity. An engineer cannot continue with an absurdity based on non-existent laws of faith. For stability, all mass must radiate and absorb light and even at the gravitational limit of a condensed black hole this is true.<br><br>If a trigger suffocates the emission of light from plutonium, there is a nuclear explosion and new helium is formed. An aether condensed black hole at the centre of every galaxy would burst its poles in a continuous nuclear explosion. The emissions will form spiral galaxy arms that recycle back to a strange attractor. A postulate by Henri Poincare. Helium would begin to form in the arms and all the elements we know of and all planetary mass would evolve.<br><br>On the basis that only light can travel at the speed of light; all mass accelerated to C will become light and a principle called the conservation of mass equilibrium and E = ±Mc2 fusion - fission is a benign mechanism.<br><br>This will be the mechanism for all reflected images and the mechanism for consciousness too. Mass relativity not time rules here. Mass creates its own periodic length and time. These science units are best shown as M(LT).<br><br>A neutrino aether vacuum is proposed. It has a resonant carrier wave speed of 299 792 458 m/s. If the neutrino is the only indivisible particle it would have a density of about 1.12x 1013 kg/m3. This would also be the density of a black hole and is estimated from the standard electron data. It is 100,000,000 times that of lead but our values are relative evaluations. In an absolute system all mass densities are identical.<br><br>The frequency of light on a carrier wave will add or subtract to give an observed frequency value. This will give rise to red and blue shifting. It is certainly not the result of a big banging expansion. <br><br>ENGINEERING MATHEMATICS FOR AETHER RESONANCE<br>For resonant impedance of the vacuum Xl = Xc .Suffixes l and c refer to the Universal inductance (Henrys) and capacitance (Farads) of vacuum1. Vacuum constants are given as mo = 4p x 10-7 Henrys and xo = 8.8452 x 10-12 Farads. Zo = 376.73 ohms impedance. These constants and the condition for resonance give a value for a carrier wave velocity of 299 792 448 m.s-1.<br><br>INFINITE AETHER-GALAXY EQUILIBRIUM <br>If all galaxy mass is indeed the result of condensed aether why is the Universe not a single infinite galaxy? In an infinite universe it would take an infinite amount of time for this to happen. Not acceptable. Unfinished business is unacceptable. <br><br>The submission is that the aether has a very weak Tesla value and must therefore have a condensing pressure. A steady state will exist when all condensed galaxy mass will exert a counter pull. At this point the universe will be in equilibrium.<br>****<br>Premise: ether or aether -- medium of vacuum with inherant, discrete properties, among them sustaining a gravitational potential field:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/media%20and%20links/press/SOG-Kopeikin.asp">www.metaresearch.org/medi...peikin.asp</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>To clarify, it is well known to physicists that electromagnetic signals (whether light passing the Sun or quasar radio signals passing Jupiter) are not bent or slowed by the force of gravity, but by passage through a gravitational potential field. A potential field slows the rates at which clocks tick, produces gravitational redshift, bends light, and retards radar and radio signals. Gravitational force, by contrast, has no such effects even in fields as strong as 1019 g, where g = acceleration of gravity at Earth's surface [[9]]. Gravitational force simply produces the 3-space (Newtonian) acceleration of bodies.<br>*****<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://users.net.yu/~mrp/chapter8.html">users.net.yu/~mrp/chapter8.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Einstein's Theory of Relativity: Scientific Theory or Illusion<br>CH. 8: Earth's ether and the possibility of ascertaining its existence.<br>For a long time many scientists have been occupied with the question of the ether's existence as a carrier of electromagnetic radiation, which fills all the cosmos. Thanks to many experiments, although some of them were explained incorrectly, the ether slowly but surely fading away from the science stage. The theory of relativity inflicted a final blow. Thus, such an absolute quiescent ubiquitous ether faded away, but some questions about certain electromagnetic phenomena have been left unanswered. One of those questions is how electromagnetic radiation or the narrower part of that radiation spectrum - light, is transmitted or propagated through the cosmos. The fact that vacuum has electromagnetic characteristics also, in some way, points to the existence of an ether in shape of an electromagnetic field. <br> The phenomenon of light aberration leads to the idea that the earth could have its own ether, in the way that it has its own magnetic field. What is it really all about? In 1725, Bradley noticed a deflection or an aberration of light while he was observing the stars, which had occurred as a consequence of the earth's motion around the sun...<br>(discussion, laboratory and thought-experiment)<br>...Thus, we come to the conclusion that the result of Michelson - Morley experiment proves the existence of the earth's ether. <br> Confirming the existence of ether has an enormous and multiple significance. Among other things it would present the end of the theory of special relativity, which is based on the constancy of light velocity. If earth's ether exists, then the other ethers of a cosmic bodies exist too. All of them fill up the cosmos and each one has an influence on light which propagates through them. <br>HOME site: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://users.net.yu/~mrp/index.html">users.net.yu/~mrp/index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>The main subject of this book is a critical analysis of the special theory of relativity as a scientific theory, which, above all, is concerned with questions connected with time, space, mass and energy and with the relationship between time and space, and mass and energy. <br> According to the theory of relativity time and space are mutually dependent and the contraction of space and the dilatation of time originate with motion as real physical processes. <br> The book demonstrates that the dilatation of time and the contraction of space are not real physical processes, but nothing more than mathematical games which are not in accord with the laws of physics and even with the declared principles of the theory of relativity. <br> In addition to that it is shown that Einstein did not derive the formula for mass in motion and the formula for the mutual connection between mass and energy, and also that they cannot be derived by correct relativistic procedure. These formulas have been derived here, on the whole, by correct classical procedure. It has finally been demonstrated that they are classical formulas, not relativistic. <br> In this way it is demonstrated that the special theory of relativity and the general theory of relativity, which is based upon the special theory of relativity, are only an unsuccessful attempt to generate a scientific theory. <br> The claim that mass is transformed into energy through an annihilation of an electron and a positron, as well as a transformation of energy into mass through a creation of the pair electron - positron, are contested. In connection with this it is given a hypothesis on the existence of new neutral particle called the elpotrin, which is formed at collision of an electron and a positron. <br> A new explanation of the red shift in the radiation spectrums of distant galaxies disputes the Hubble's hypothesis about dispersion of galaxies and the existence of the big bang. Besides that the origin of the primary cosmic rays and their enormous energies are explained. <br> The existing classical and relativistic explanations of aberration are disputed. The hypothesis about the existence of the earth's ether and the sun's ether, whose relative motion causes the phenomenon of aberration is presented. In connection with this a new type of the interferometer is invented and described, with which it is possible to confirm or to deny the existence of the earth's ether. <br> New explanation of the Fizeau's test and the theory of light propagation through moving transparent mediums are also given. <br>*****<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.orgonelab.org/energyinspace.htm">www.orgonelab.org/energyinspace.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Cosmic Ether-Drift and Dynamic Energy in Space<br>For an excellent chronologically-organized citation list on the subject dating back to the 1800s, see the reference list composed at the end of the 2002 article by DeMeo: "Dayton Miller's Ether-Drift Experiments: A Fresh Look". (cited below).<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.orgonelab.org/miller.htm">www.orgonelab.org/miller.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br>This list is deliberately constrained only to Michelson-Morley-Miller interferometer-type experiments, or discussions of them. It is very incomplete, and there are others we know about from Silvertooth, Munera, Thompson and others which will be added in the near future. The list also include papers by authors such as Cahill, who discuss the Miller experiments in considerable detail, but attempt to incorporate the results into a new theory which is more compatible with mainstream ideas -- away from the concept of a tangible energy in space. In this context, the papers by DeMeo, Galaev, and Allais remain closest to Miller's original findings and theory. Papers which discuss the work of Wilhelm Reich on cosmic life energy, as demonstrated in high-vacuum experiments and thereby theorized as existent in cosmic space, are also listed where they have a specific relevance to the interferometer-type of experiment, or to anisotropies in the background of space. For a complete listing on Reich's experiments, click here. For another list of papers on the ether and ether-drift question, at another web site, click here. <br>Articles since 1990, with web links where known (CITED):<br>*<br>Natural Philosophy Alliance Open discussions on alternatives to big-bang cosmology and Special Relativity, with many advocates of a cosmic ether in space. <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Deneb">mywebpages.comcast.net/Deneb</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br>***<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://home1.gte.net/res00bfl/millers_cosmic_model.htm">home1.gte.net/res00bfl/mi..._model.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Dayton C. Miller’s 1933 Cosmic Ether Model<br>Glen W. Deen<br>ABSTRACT<br>If Miller's experiment1 were repeated in Talkeetna, Alaska, I predict the ether drift velocity magnitude curve would have a sharp minimum of zero every September 3 at 04:02 UT because the apparent ether intake anti-apex would be overhead. The function is Ve sin z where Ve is the escape velocity (11.18 km/s) and z is the zenith distance to the apparent anti-apex . If the observations were made in Fort Yukon, Alaska, two sharp nulls would occur each year on June 27 at 06:58 UT and November 19 at 00:05 UT.<br>I confirm Miller’s cosmic solution for the true ether wind speed and apex coordinates from his data. I reproduce his amplitude curves from first principles using vector mathematics. I reproduce approximately his displaced azimuth curves with an ad-hoc math model that uses diurnal aberration of an hypothesized entrained ether bubble. I offer explanations for: (1) the reduced velocity effect, (2) the displaced azimuth effect, (3) the secular negative fringe displacement, and (4) relationship of the Sun’s absolute motion to the cosmic microwave background anisotropy dipole.<br>****<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://springerlink.com/(fckqatj55ezbnr553utxphi4)/app/home/contribution.asp?referrer=parent&backto=issue,11,15;journal,92,414;linkingpublicationresults,1:101594,1">springerlink.com/(fckqatj...1:101594,1</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>International Journal of Theoretical Physics<br>Cosmic Ether<br>Roman Tomaschitz<br>Abstract A prerelativistic approach to particle dynamics is explored in an expanding Robertson–Walker cosmology. The receding galactic background provides a distinguished frame of reference and a unique cosmic time. In this context the relativistic, purely geometric space-time concept is criticized. Physical space is regarded as a permeable medium, the cosmic ether, which effects the world-lines of particles and rays. We study in detail a Robertson–Walker universe with linear expansion factor and negatively curved, open three-space; we choose the permeability tensor of the ether in such a way that the semiclassical approximation is exact. Galactic red-shifts depend on the refractive index of the ether. In the local Minkowskian limit the ether causes a time variation of mass, which scales inversely proportional to cosmic time. In the globally geodesic rest frames of galactic observers the ether manifests itself in an unbounded speed of signal transfer, in bifurcations of world-lines, and in time inversion effects.<br>*****<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.mrelativity.net/Papers/7/Pavlovic.htm">www.mrelativity.net/Paper...vlovic.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Problem of Motion in the Theory of Relativity (observational evidence for the existence of an earth ether)<br>*<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.geocities.com/iipopescu/ether_and_etherons.html">www.geocities.com/iipopes...erons.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Ether and Etherons <br>Etheronics – A Possible Reappraisal of the Ether Concept <br><br>Ioan-Iovitz Popescu <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.geocities.com/iipopescu">www.geocities.com/iipopescu</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>Translated from the Roumanian Academy journal of physics <br>Stud. Cercet. Fiz., vol. 34, 451-468 (1982)<br><br>NOTE: A recent support of this paper is offered by Nicholas Ionescu-Pallas, Reflections Concerning the Genuine Origin of Gravitation, Romanian Reports in Physics, 55, 7-42 (2003), <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://alpha1.infim.ro/rrp/2003_55_1/d00_pallas.pdf">alpha1.infim.ro/rrp/2003_...pallas.pdf</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>Abstract. A new explanation of the Newtonian law of gravitation is given, proceeding from the following statements: a) the Universe is finite and filled with some particles of very small mass, traveling at speed of light; b) all material bodies in the Universe are made up of such particles called “etherons”; c) the matter in the Universe is prevailingly under the form of etherons. The uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics and some dimensionless relations of relativistic cosmology - among which Mach’s principle - are adopted in view of establishing the intrinsic characteristics of etherons as well as their number in the Universe. By applying statistical ratiocinations to the etheronic background, expressions of Hubble’s and Newton’s constants are derived in terms of some kinetic entities pertaining to the ether. The emergence of the inverse square law of force entails at the same time a very strong coupling of the etherons in a nucleon and a saturation character of the binding forces. A wide discussion is undertaken concerning the consistency of the physical world picture suggested by the etheronic conjecture with the already constituted frame of conventional physics, drawing interesting and encouraging conclusions. <br>(snip)<br> <p></p><i></i>
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