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Re: I guess it comes down to....

Postby Sepka » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:13 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I find it odd that there are two lights on either end.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I was noticing that as well. It strikes me too that the end lights are the brightest, instead of the ones on the side directly facing the camera. The overall impression is of lights that throw more light tangentially to the disk than directly outward. I can certainly imagine reflector and lens arrangements would do that, but it just looks odd.<br><br>At the same time, though, if one were going to fake a film, why would one put in such an odd feature?<br> <p>-Sepka the Space Weasel</p><i></i>
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Re: I guess it comes down to....

Postby yesferatu » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:21 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>If the lights are symmetrically spaced around the object, assuming it is 3D, the chances are high that you'd not see that symmetry by virtue of your viewing angle. I guess it would be a 1/360 chance.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I did consider that as a possibility of proof of a hoax. I'm glad you brought that up. That is a problem, I agree. I can say then, there is a 1 out of 360 chance it is a hoax. <br>The other "problems" as mentioned on this thread are problems in a linear way. <br>For instance, this whole notion the damn thing has to maintain crisp edges. That is assuming things in our skies we don't understand are non-amorphous, nuts and bolts "3D" objects. Pray tell, why would that be?<br>The history of sightings has the preponderance for amorphous "other-dimensional" qualities being the norm in the vast majority of accounts. <br><br>Here is an idea on the lights in their array, and I would like anyone to comment if this may be up their alley (or feel free to laugh at this question). If one point of light is set to rotate around a circumference and the speed of that rotation is at a certain velocity, would a video frame record random points on the circumference, or a blur, or would it simplify the signature of the light into a basic geometrical pattern....I am thinking how our eyes work with rotating objects, and I am just curious. You might say, "It would be a blur of light!" and I might agree, but lights and video can do interesting things, especially considering different types of lights, such as strobe, etc. <br>If you are convinced 100% it was faked, fine, no need to answer that my question is retarded. Just some optical/video practical science is all I am looking for here. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I guess it comes down to....

Postby Sweejak » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:34 am

I just find the odds ( assuming that we are looking at a 3D object) of happening to have the correct angle to have the lights aligned so nicely, well, odd. I don't know if we could detect a one degree difference though so I don't know what the odds are but assume they favor taking an asymmetrical shot of the light array.<br><br>I'm not convinced it's faked. I do also see variation in the grayness of the object, and while fuzzy apparently some glinting.<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/769/glintin3.png"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>I don't think we will ever really know without having negatives. If it's digital it's just pixels.<br><br>The object does make a very sudden drop in altitude before the lights appear and then a flash and it's gone. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I guess it comes down to....

Postby bvonahsen » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:53 am

So... why China? Is it because China is becomming a first world country instead of a third world one? I am sure that ufo's and friends have been seen in every country for a long time but... it seems a little odd to me. Maybe just because more people in China now have consumer products like camcorders.<br><br>Maybe China now has it's own skunk works program and needs the tried and true diversion of ufo's to distract a curious people? Some of these seem kind of regional to me. Crop circles are mostly in the UK, they are spred out everywhere but the most activity seems to be the uk. The military even localized it with the will-O-wips. That was a nice touch and one that wouldn't play anywhere else.<br><br>For the most part, I think all ufos and crop circles or other such phenomon are faked or ortherwise spred by the military. Think about what would we be talking about if there had been no "flying saucers" or crop circles or alien abductions? We would be paying very close attention, as a nation, to what the government was or wasn't doing. The more I think of it that way the more I am convinced that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>all</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> of it is just one big distraction. Keeps us entertained and more importantly, not looking where we shouldn't be. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I guess it comes down to....

Postby Sweejak » Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:03 am

But I am paying attention to other stuff. So are most of us. If they are military ops, then that alone is a reason to pay attention. I mean just for purposes of studying mass mind control... or maybe the military is interjecting itself between the whole business to discredit a real story. Where to stop?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I guess it comes down to....

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:09 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>For the most part, I think all ufos and crop circles or other such phenomon are faked or ortherwise spred by the military. Think about what would we be talking about if there had been no "flying saucers" or crop circles or alien abductions? We would be paying very close attention, as a nation, to what the government was or wasn't doing. The more I think of it that way the more I am convinced that all of it is just one big distraction. Keeps us entertained and more importantly, not looking where we shouldn't be.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I agree 100%. I totally believe UFO's are real, but I believe they belong to certain nasties <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>here</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, rather than <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>there</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. Everyone started seeing them after WWII, when the US Government was quietly appropiating the 3rd Reich. Prohject BlueBook was a fascinating TV favorite for me when I was a kid, but I don't recall ever seeing anything on TV about our society's gradual slide into planetary vampires. <br><br>I can give good, logical reasons for believing intelligent life exists while also believing the chances of ever seeing it here are closer to 0 than anything, but it could and should be the start of a new thread.<br><br>Which would be yet another distraction, hence we're our own Ourobouros.. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: I guess it comes down to....

Postby Sepka » Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:22 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>So... why China? Is it because China is becomming a first world country instead of a third world one? I am sure that ufo's and friends have been seen in every country for a long time but... it seems a little odd to me. Maybe just because more people in China now have consumer products like camcorders.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>A collection of articles about <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/China.htm" target="top">UFOs in China.</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> I'm surprised that there aren't more reports out of China, honestly, considering how densely populated it is.<br> <p>-Sepka the Space Weasel</p><i></i>
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Re: I guess it comes down to....

Postby bvonahsen » Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:58 pm

ya know... it's really hard to find a thread you commented in on this EZ Board. grrrrrrr...<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>But I am paying attention to other stuff. So are most of us.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>I didn't mean you in particular, I meant everyone. I believe that the country as a whole, hell, the whole world, would be paying lots more attention to the games our polititians and the millitary are playing if the ufo phenomon had not been invented in '47. There were strange things in the skies and strange beings on the earth before that, but these were given folk or spiritual explainations before the 20th century. The rumors and hysteria of the fifties have blossomed into a subculture. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I guess it comes down to....

Postby Sweejak » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:41 pm

Yeah, I see what your saying, but there are so many things to distract us with that I think there is more to the story about UFO's. It does tend to grab hold of the imagination and I'd guess they would take note. "They" seem to get really pissed when something on a social level happens that they can't buy or create, like 60's Rock, especially if you give some weight to Mae Brussells stuff. <p></p><i></i>
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