More "compression artifacts" spotted on mars

[thoughtographer]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>You show me yours and I wont show you mine ? LOL.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Yeah, but you gave me an equation, and I gave you an answer. If I don't know what the numbers represent, then I can't very well understand your point. I'm still working on my chosen piece of ground, and I'll be damned if I'm going to let any of it fly before it's good and ready for scrutiny.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>In the meantime, Im going to research more into what you are talking about. This 1953 stuff that you volunteered a while back, as is recorded on this forum.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Good. I didn't post much beyond the year, but the context is what matters, I guess. Do draw your own conclusions -- I'm sure they will differ from mine, and that's a good thing.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>My own opinion ?<br><br>Surely somewhere in between lies the answers to this whole issue.<br><br><br>Right ?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Yes, your own opinion. Data is as data does, but opinions are something else.<br><br>I don't know where the answers lie, and I know that I will go to my grave not having figured out anything, relatively speaking. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

[slimmouse]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>and I know that I will go to my grave not having figured out anything, relatively speaking.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br> You Sir, are way, way , way too cute for that <br><br> IMHO of course <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[thoughtographer]

Uh -- thanks? <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

Hoagie is a crank. Remember the crystal towers on the Moon?<br><br>The poor guy blows up images in Photoshop, squints, and sees artificiality in every exaggerated pixel.<br><br>And sorry, but just because he's sick doesn't give him a free pass. <p></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

Let me just add that I think there are some very strange things on Mars -- particularly fractal-like dark patterns that may very well be plant life. And maybe, just maybe, there are ruins of an ancient civilization. <br><br>But Hogie's track record is dismal, and he has lied about his past as well. <p></p><i></i>

[thoughtographer]

I could really go for a hoagie now.<br><br>What exactly has he been caught lying about? <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

[OpLan]

I'm a bit disappointed that a request for informed opinion resulted in insults like media clown,liar,crank.<br>Hogalands crime seems to have been too quick to publish his conclusions on a certain IR picture of mars features.<br>For that horrible crime,his ideas are not really discussed;mention his name and it turns into a stoning.<br>I'm hoping that Jeffs research leads him to study NASA,Apollo and mars in more detail.I dont have the skill to argue Hoaglands corner and Slimmouse is being too cryptic to make sense.<br>I doubt that Jingos science classes dealt with possible censorship of space knowledge, the manipulation of space images,possible masonic connections in NASA or the Military/CIA connection to NASA.<br><br>Prof,I was wishing a sick man get well soon..not asking for a free pass.Its not as simple as Hoagland blowing up photoshop images and squinting.As to allegedly lying about his past..what has that to do with his research?..hes not describing a ufo he sat in when he worked at groom lake.<br><br>I suggest anyone who is genuinely interested in the new mars data bookmark this site for the 6th April,which is when a new HiRise image arrives from mars.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/first_images/">hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/first_images/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>This website has catergorised the anomalies found on the latest image.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.mroimages.com/">www.mroimages.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Follow his suggestion of downloading the original tiff image..its 190 meg,but its beautiful..and was released within hours of it arriving on earth.Given NASAs past history,we might not be so fortunate when the satellite has completed its manouvers and settled into its mission orbit later this year.<br>This tiff image could prove to be a litmus test for future image quality.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[slimmouse]

<br> I get the distinct impression that he stumbled upon something that he shouldnt have so to speak. He reminds me somewhat of Peter Power of the infamous visor consultants, and his little whoopsy with regard to the London Bombings.<br><br> Apologies for being cryptic, but the research that has led me to my position today isnt mine to divulge ( beyond a few interesting clues ).<br><br> But that day is soon coming - very soon in fact.<br><br> Suffice it to say that the fallacious history of our species is little more than another 9/11. In fact it makes the 9/11 cover up look like childs play.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[thoughtographer]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I doubt that Jingos science classes dealt with possible censorship of space knowledge, the manipulation of space images,possible masonic connections in NASA or the Military/CIA connection to NASA.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Well, that's a reasonable doubt. As for the rest, I agree that there is something there, but Hoagland really shoots himself (and everyone else) in the foot with his approach. The "possible" masonic connections in NASA are more than just a mere possibility; they are documented facts. The rest is less solid, but certainly <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>highly</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> probable, which is probably why there isn't much evidence.<br><br>I'm not slamming the man, I'm slamming the approach. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

[Pirx]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Remember the crystal towers on the Moon?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Or "The Blivet in the B-Ring" Hoaglands' artifact in Saturns ring, when the Voyager data came in? Whatever became of that little critter?<br><br>Don't get me wrong, I like Hoagland. He's entertaining and imaginative.<br><br><br>Theres a revolution coming from all this? Cool! <br>Bring it on Copernicus, I'm all strapped in and ready for my little world to tilt.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[sussurus2]

Slim, <br><br>I haven't figured out how to direct-message in this forum, so forgive me for a public interrogative, with what's grown into an absurdly long preamble... <br><br>I never spent much time looking hard at Hoagland's stuff. But almost a year ago, I did spend time examining any hig rez versions of photos of Mars surface --as well as of the sun and some of the moon-- that I could find. Trying to draw my own conclusions. That stuff is interesting in and of itself. Enough to make one question official BS. <br><br>More enquiry into what one might term the "rogue astronomer" field led to the conclusion that there is at least SOMEthing being covered up, possibly lots of something about even just our little ole solar system, basic physics (even Newtonian), energy, etc. Way too many "unscheduled maintenance" periods happening to various eyes in the sky, with NASA apologies, when comets or other interesting phenomenae occur.<br><br>Since that time, in other work, I've since proved to myself that a large percentage of basic "conventional/accepted" physics and electronics, as well as biology/medical stuff is all wrong, and purposefully so. <br><br>Getting to that point then led me to lend more credence to similar assertions by folks who are marginalized but otherwise wildly highly trained & credentialed--so I went back to look at that astronomical stuff. <br><br>I pay special attention to those who stand to gain nothing by telling what they feel is their truth, and even more closely attend to those who seem to be getting relentlessly slammed for telling that truth.<br><br>Not many people pay attention to "rogue astronomers" so when it seems that enormous amounts of energy are being spent either raising some to the forefront, or trying to marginalize or erase the work of others, I find that interesting. Great opinion leaders they are not. What percentage of the world population would ever hear of any of this? Or even care, if they did hear about it? So why is it worth the time and energy to try to obfuscate? Must be important.<br><br>So Slim, as I have a few unanswered questions lying about from research in those quarters, if anything you're referring to relates to:<br><br>-- odd fossil-record skull shapes (elongated crania) in Central & South American museums<br>-- absolutely breathtaking narrative about ancient war exodus from Mars which has captivated my imagination since reading it months ago, but with nothing else to hang it on but intuition saying "this makes sense, the rest is crap" I've not much to go on<br>-- Ramayana and similar "myths" as actual past history<br>-- plasma universe<br>-- geomancy, dowsing, "power sites," and Leedskalnin<br>-- Venus and Velikovsky<br>-- sacred geometry<br><br>Please give us a sign...<br><br>Otherwise just promise that when the time is right you'll be sure to release relevant details here...thanks.<br><br>S. <p></p><i></i>

[bvonahsen]

Yeah, pretty intrigueing stuff. What really impresses me is <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon1.htm" target="top">Iapetus</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>On color versions of the same image (below) -- created by compositing three Cassini views taken through ultraviolet, green and infrared filters – the contrast between the bizarre “chocolate brown” of the leading hemisphere, and the brilliant white “polar caps” north and south -- is particularly striking. <br><br>As is the presence of that baffling, arrow-straight, 12-mile-high (~60,000 foot!) “wall” -- which precisely bisects the leading hemisphere, and apparently crosses the entire width of this strangely darkened “Cassini Regio” … over 800 miles in length.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>His other interpretations may be off but that straight line at the equator... I mean, there is no process I know, no collision of bodies that large, that would ever in a million years produce a straight line like that.<br><br>On the other hand, if you stare too long at pixelated photos you can see whatever you want to see. Though I agree the structures on Mars, especially the square holes in the cubiod "rocks" can't be natural. The geometric formations are suggestive too. <br><br>So.. here is a theory for ya... When the European Union's Martian probe failed and crash landed (if that's what happened), you suppose that was really an accident? Or maybe we had a hand in that. I think its possible that we wanted Mars all to ourselves. <p></p><i></i>