Sleep Paralysis

by **Dreams End** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:08 pm

This article is about sleep paralysis. Having experienced it once, I found it interesting, but once again, we see that there is an effort to "explain" alien abductions with this phenomenon. <a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20050709/bob9.asp">www.sciencenews.org/artic...9/bob9.asp</a> You get this bit of silliness, for example: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Accounts of space-alien encounters typically begin with the abductee waking in the night while lying face up, McNally says. The person can't move but senses electric vibrations. A feeling of terror makes breathing difficult. Alien beings advance to the foot of the bed or climb on top of the person, who then experiences a sense of floating or of being transported to an alien craft.<hr></blockquote> I've read so many stories of alleged abductions from cars (engine stops mysteriously, bright light is observed) and other places that this man surely cannot have read the literature available. Now, that said, has anyone ever gone back and said, okay, we accept sleep paralysis as real (I do, I'll tell my little story in a sec). But why is it not considered interesting that it so often results in the "experience" of otherworldly beings entering the room and threatening us in some way? Why so many "demons" (as in the article). And the experiences described in this article are very vivid, with clear visuals as well as the other sensations (mine was not). Why don't we just experience "burglars" coming into the house if it's simply a time when fears are closer to the surface? Or of the house burning? Why succubi and incubi, as they used to be called? Here's my experience...not so interesting until you hear the other part of the story. I lived for a time with a Japanese Buddhist monk in Los Angeles. (He's from a small order called Nipponzan Myohoji, and though they are from the Nicheren tradition, they are most certainly not part of the rather cultish organization that has borrowed the typical Nicheren chant of "namu myoho renge kyo." Neither are they the xenophobes Nicheren himself appeared to be; their central focus is working on peace. I was not part of the order, and they do not recruit! In all the years I've known them, I've only known one person to join...but that's all a digression.) Anyway, I was lying in my bed face down when I felt someone sit down on the bed next to me. "Why is Cosay (the monk) sitting on my bed?) I don't know that I felt I "couldn't" move, I think I simply didn't try. I felt "someone" crawl onto my back and it was as if they were spraying a light mist on me and I heard a kind of inarticulate syllable like "paaaaaa" or something. That's about all. Not too exciting. Some weeks later I was talking to Cosay and he said "We had a visitor last night." I asked who it was. He suggested it was some kind of "demon." And far from sleep paralysis, he said he wrestled with this demon for quite some time just after midnight. Finally, he began chanting and centered himself and the entity left. Then he pointed up the clock in the room which had stopped, the time on the clock was certainly close to the time he had his struggle. And then a few days later, I was in the house alone and a window simply shattered. Cosay did not think this was relevant, however, as he had just replaced that window and he felt he'd done it in a way that put too much pressure on the glass. Scared the crap out of me though! Who knows what that was all about. Two hallucinations or sleep paralysis (in his case, a waking dream)? And, again, why with the literally infinite possible amount of content that subconscious minds can draw from, are the contents of these experiences often so similar. I recall once a girlfriend (she'd need a separate thread! lots of weirdness around here) who had an experience of seeing entities in a sleep paralysis type experience. They were large grey blobs that she said would suck out energy from people. Okay, weird. But sometime after that I was reading one of John Mack's books and he has some nontypical experiences in these books as well. Among them, a description of some large grey blobbish entities. You know what. I'm going to tell this girlfriend's story in another thread. It's interesting but I'm curious if any of the elements of her story resonate with anyone or are similar to other experiences you've heard of. In fact, now that I think of it, I think I had decided she was under some kind of psychic attack....had told Cosay about it and he'd given her some advice (salt in the corners of the house) and sent her a card with his chant on it in nice calligraphy to send some positive energy. Soon after came the "demon" attack. Stay tuned!

by **professorpan** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:46 pm

Interesting story, Dreams End. I posted (some time ago) about my sleep paralysis experience and why I find reductionist explanations about the phenomenon to fall short. In my case, my sleep paralysis experience was followed by a six-fingered handprint on my chest when I awoke in the morning. I tried to find a logical explanation for the print, but nothing fit. It was red, as if I had been slapped, and there were five distinct fingers and a thumb. I tried contorting my own hand, in case I had been sleeping on it, but the fingers were much longer and I couldn't twist my arm to make my hand "fit" the print. It gradually faded. Perhaps the reductionist view is incomplete, and when we enter the liminal stage between sleep and wakefulness, it's akin to entering Magonia. Maybe there is some kind of reality to the frightening entities people perceive in the sleep paralysis state. Or not. But I know what happened to me, and how inexplicable it remains.

by **chiggerbit** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:06 pm

I had the opposite problem during the first of a series of nightmares--unusual strength. I threw my husband from his side of the bed to the floor on my side of the bed--with one arm--and he was a big guy. Never would have been able to do that normally. The weird thing is, the few times I have had nightmares, it has almost always been when I knew exactly where I was when the nightmare was going on--in my own bed. In other words, absolutely no difference location-wise between nightmare and what was reality for that moment.

by **AnnaLiviaPlurabelle** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:39 pm

surprises keep happening; spotting the title of this thread made me catch my breath. just yesterday i said i'd have to google around and look up info about sleep paralysis, because my kids' dad had just experienced another of his not-so-infrequent bouts of what we (perhaps mistakenly?) call sleep paralysis. his experience has nothing whatever of an other-worldly nature, and the fright he feels is not due to anything more sinister than an extremely high anxiety over finding himself caught in a state between sleeping and waking. he becomes paralyzed indeed, but is not awake. the whole trouble is that he cannot awaken. these days he will even cry out weakly "wake me UP...wake me UP!", and when i do, he immediately feels relief. usually goes back to sleep within a few minutes, and is fine the rest of the night. but while it's happening, he realizes he is caught in the middle, he cannot move, try as he might, and he knows he needs to wake up but can't. that is what frightens him...the thought "what if i can never wake up?" he's made me promise to pull the plug if he'd ever wind up in a coma, because he's sure enough he would KNOW he was in a coma. we have been divorced for a very long time, but are still best friends and parenting partners, and have always shared the same home. but our kids are almost grown now, and i have plans to someday head to the southern hemisphere, if possible. i worry what will happen to him if i am not here to wake him from these awful sleep events...differ as they seem to from the experiences others are describing. and i must say i'd rather find him another loving partner than have him studied in some laboratory. hmmm...

by **dbeach** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:38 pm

"But I know what happened to me, and how inexplicable it remains. " have had similar unexpained phenomenon..thinks its more complicated than SP

by **emad** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:04 am

THOUGHT you might like this one. Some great references and links on the site: <a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20050709/bob9.asp">www.sciencenews.org/artic...9/bob9.asp</a> The waking nightmare of sleep paralysis propels people into a spirit world Bruce Bower As a college student in 1964, David J. Hufford met the dreaded Night Crusher. Exhausted from a bout of mononucleosis and studying for finals, Hufford retreated one December day to his rented, off-campus room and fell into a deep sleep. An hour later, he awoke with a start to the sound of the bedroom door creaking open—the same door he had locked and bolted before going to bed. Hufford then heard footsteps moving toward his bed and felt an evil presence. Terror gripped the young man, who couldn't move a muscle, his eyes plastered open in fright. Without warning, the malevolent entity, whatever it was, jumped onto Hufford's chest. An oppressive weight compressed his rib cage. Breathing became difficult, and Hufford felt a pair of hands encircle his neck and start to squeeze. "I thought I was going to die," he says. At that point, the lock on Hufford's muscles gave way. He bolted up and sprinted several blocks to take shelter in the student union. "It was very puzzling," he recalls with a strained chuckle, "but I told nobody about what happened." Hufford's perspective on his strange encounter was transformed in 1971. He was at that time a young anthropologist studying folklore in Newfoundland, and he heard from some of the region's inhabitants about their eerily similar nighttime encounters. Locals called the threatening entity the "old hag." Most cases unfold as follows: A person wakes up paralyzed and perceives an evil presence. A hag or witch then climbs on top of the petrified victim, creating a crushing sensation on his or her chest. It took Hufford another year to establish that what he and these people of Newfoundland had experienced corresponds to the event, lasting seconds or minutes, that sleep researchers call sleep paralysis. Although widely acknowledged among traditional cultures, sleep paralysis is one of the most prevalent yet least recognized mental phenomena for people in industrialized societies, Hufford says. Now, more than 30 years after Hufford's discovery, sleep paralysis is beginning to attract intensive scientific attention. The March Transcultural Psychiatry included a series of papers on the condition's widespread prevalence, regional varieties, and mental-health implications. Sleep paralysis differs from nocturnal panic, in which a person awakens in terror with no memory of a dream. Neither does sleep paralysis resemble a night terror, in which a person suddenly emerges from slumber in apparent fear, flailing and shouting, but then falls back asleep and doesn't recall the incident in the morning. Curiously, although the word nightmare originally described sleep paralysis, it now refers to a fearful or disturbing dream, says Hufford, now at the Penn State Medical Center in Hershey, Pa. Several hundred years ago, the English referred to nighttime sensations of chest pressure from witches or other supernatural beings as the "mare," from the Anglo-Saxon merran, meaning to crush. The term eventually morphed into nightmare—the crusher who comes in the night. Sleep paralysis embodies a universal, biologically based explanation for pervasive beliefs in spirits and supernatural beings, even in the United States, Hufford argues. The experience thrusts mentally healthy people into a bizarre, alternative world that they frequently find difficult to chalk up to a temporary brain glitch. Hufford doesn't believe that an invisible force attacked him in his college room or during several sleep paralysis episodes that have occurred since then, but he sees the appeal of such an interpretation. "We need to deeply question 2 centuries of assumptions about the nonempirical and nonrational nature of spirit belief," he says. Ominous presence In the past 10 years, psychologist J. Allan Cheyne of the University of Waterloo in Canada has collected more than 28,000 tales of sleep paralysis. According to one of the chroniclers, "The first time I experienced this, I saw a shadow of a moving figure, arms outstretched, and I was absolutely sure it was supernatural and evil." Another person recalled awakening "to find a half-snake/half-human thing shouting gibberish in my ear." Yet another person reported periodically waking with a start just after falling asleep, sensing an ominous presence nearby. The tale continues: "Then, something comes over me and smothers me, as if with a pillow. I fight but I can't move. I try to scream. I wake up gasping for air." Many who experience sleep paralysis also report sensations of floating, flying, falling, or leaving one's body. The condition's primary emotion, terror, sometimes yields to feelings of excitement, exhilaration, rapture, or ecstasy. "A small number of people, while acknowledging fear during initial episodes of sleep paralysis, come to enjoy the experience," Cheyne says. Cheyne runs a Web site (<a href="http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html)">watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html)</a> where visitors fill out surveys about their experiences during sleep paralysis. Several thousand individuals also provide online updates about recurring episodes. It doesn't surprise Cheyne that those who contact him seem to be average, emotionally stable folk. In surveys that he has conducted with large numbers of college students and other volunteers, about 30 percent report having experienced at least one incident of sleep paralysis. Roughly 1 in 50 people cites repeated episodes, often one or more each week. Cheyne regards the sights, sounds, and other sensations of sleep paralysis as hallucinations that share a biological kinship with dreaming. Cheyne notes work by Japanese researcher Kazuhiko Fukuda of Fukushima University. Fukuda enlisted volunteers who had experienced many incidents of sleep paralysis. In a sleep laboratory, the Japanese team monitored the volunteers, whom they roused at various times during the night to trigger the phenomenon. The researchers found that during sleep paralysis, the brain, suddenly awake, nonetheless displays electrical responses typical of sleep characterized by rapid eye movement (REM). Two brain systems contribute to sleep paralysis, Cheyne proposes. The most prominent one consists of inner-brain structures that monitor one's surroundings for threats and launches responses to perceived dangers. As Cheyne sees it, REM-based activation of this system, in the absence of any real threat, triggers a sense of an ominous entity lurking nearby. Other neural areas that contribute to REM-dream imagery could draw on personal and cultural knowledge to flesh out the evil presence. A second brain system, which includes sensory and motor parts of the brain's outer layer, distinguishes one's own body and self from those of other creatures. When REM activity prods this system, a person experiences sensations of floating, flying, falling, leaving one's body, and other types of movement, Cheyne says. Hufford, however, regards the intrusion of REM activity into awake moments as inadequate to explain sleep paralysis. Dream content during REM sleep varies greatly from one person to another, but descriptions of sleep paralysis are remarkably consistent. "I don't have a good explanation for these experiences," he says. Pushy ghosts Psychiatrist Devon E. Hinton has heard his share of terrifying stories. While sitting in Hinton's office in Lowell, Mass., a 48-year-old Cambodian woman recounted two such tales from her own life. The first detailed nearly weekly nocturnal events of a type known among her fellow Cambodians as "the ghost pushes you down." At these times, the woman said, she awakens from sleep unable to move. Three ghastly demons stalk into her room, each covered in fur and displaying long fangs. One of the creatures then leans close to her head; the second holds down her legs; and the third pins down her arms. She told Hinton that when these terrors befall her, she knows that the demons want to scare her to death and she feels that they might succeed. Her second tale was even more dreadful. She told Hinton that the ghost terrors usually trigger a flashback to an actual incident that occurred more than 20 years ago. Before reaching the United States, she survived the genocidal reign of Cambodian dictator Pol Pot, who directed the slaughter of roughly 2 million Cambodians. On one occasion, the young woman witnessed soldiers escorting into a nearby clump of trees three blindfolded persons, whom she recognized as friends from her village. Soon, she heard the sickening sounds of her friends being clubbed to death. In his therapy, Hinton, who speaks the woman's Khmer language, asked the woman to establish a connection between the two sets of stories. She told him that the three demons are the spirits of her three executed friends, who return to haunt her so that she won't forget them. She also related her worries that a sorcerer would make the spirits enter her body, causing insanity, or will instruct the spirits to place objects inside her, causing anxiety and physical illness. Each ensuing episode of sleep paralysis over the years has intensified the woman's flashbacks, sleep difficulties, and other symptoms of what psychiatrists call post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Hinton says that many Cambodian refugees relive past horrors through sleep paralysis. He notes that few people discuss these incidents with their physicians. "Unless you specifically ask about sleep paralysis, you don't know that a patient has it," Hinton says. So, Hinton surveyed people at his outpatient clinic in Lowell, which has the second-largest Cambodian population in the country. Of 100 consecutive Cambodian refugees whom Hinton saw as patients at the clinic in 2003, he notes, 42 reported currently experiencing at least one sleep-paralysis episode each year. Most reported seeing an approaching demon or other entity that created pressure on their chests and typically triggered panic attacks. Among the refugees questioned, 45 had been diagnosed with PTSD. Of those, 35 reported being afflicted by sleep paralysis, usually with at least one episode a month. The Cambodians told Hinton that sleep paralysis permits people who suffer unjust deaths to haunt the living and creates "bad luck." These cultural ideas foster panic attacks, Hinton asserts. Panic attacks, PTSD, and other mental disorders may indirectly promote sleep paralysis by disrupting the sleep cycle and yanking people out of REM sleep during the night, he adds. Other factors that disturb sleep, such as jet lag and shift work, have also been linked to sleep paralysis. Psychological treatment that delves into the personal meaning of bouts of sleep paralysis reassures sufferers that these encounters aren't signs of physical illness or supernatural visits, Hinton says. Evidence from Shanghai also supports a connection between sleep paralysis, PTSD, and panic attacks. Albert S. Yeung of Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston and his team interviewed 150 psychiatric outpatients in Shanghai. About one-quarter of these patients had experienced sleep paralysis at least once, and more than half of those with PTSD or panic attacks described incidents of sleep paralysis, according to Yeung. However, unlike the Cambodian immigrants whom Hinton studied, nearly all of Yeung's Chinese study participants in retrospect regarded the incidents as innocuous. Most had experienced feelings of dread but didn't encounter supernatural creatures. For African Americans who experience panic attacks, sleep paralysis is also especially common, according to community surveys conducted by psychologist Cheryl M. Paradis of Marymount Manhattan College in New York City. Although 25 percent of the African-American participants reported having experienced sleep paralysis, nearly 60 percent of blacks who had panic attacks said that they regularly experienced sleep paralysis. In contrast, sleep paralysis turned up among only 7 percent of whites who have panic attacks, Paradis says. High stress levels in African Americans, at least partly the result of poverty and racism, contribute to anxiety, sleep problems, and sleep paralysis, she suggests. Sexual abuse may also make a person susceptible to sleep paralysis. Harvard University psychologists Richard J. McNally and Susan A. Clancy have found that, among adults who report having been sexually abused during childhood, nearly half describe at least one past episode of sleep paralysis. In their study, only 13 percent of participants who hadn't been sexually abused reported sleep paralysis. Long-standing sleep disturbances in those who have been sexually abused may foster the phenomenon, McNally suggests. Alien invaders There is a kinship between waking nightmares starring Night Crushers and reports of alien abductions, McNally and Clancy find. For more than a decade, they have been studying people who claim to have been abducted by aliens from outer space. McNally and Clancy are convinced that these claims derive from sleep-paralysis hallucinations. Accounts of space-alien encounters typically begin with the abductee waking in the night while lying face up, McNally says. The person can't move but senses electric vibrations. A feeling of terror makes breathing difficult. Alien beings advance to the foot of the bed or climb on top of the person, who then experiences a sense of floating or of being transported to an alien craft. Days or weeks later, in response to a therapist's hypnotic suggestions, the abductee may generate details of being sexually probed or otherwise assaulted by the aliens, McNally notes. Claims of abductions by space aliens trigger much controversy, media attention, and ridicule. The late Harvard psychiatrist John Mack fueled the hubbub by defending the accounts as descriptions of actual encounters with visitors from other planets. There's another, far more likely, explanation for the reported experiences of the "abductees," says McNally. Traumatic encounters that a person seems to experience during sleep paralysis feel as vividly real as anything that happens during the day does, he notes. Despite their fantastic claims, these people are mentally healthy, says McNally. "Sleep paralysis is an entirely natural phenomenon," he remarks. "In isolated cases, it's no more pathological than a case of the hiccups." McNally and Clancy linked the claims of 10 alien abductees to episodes of sleep paralysis. Memories of the scary incidents sparked heart-rate increases and other physiological stress reactions that exceeded those previously reported for Vietnam veterans with PTSD as they recalled distressing combat events. Even the most rational people who experience sleep paralysis often find it difficult to write off their nighttime ordeals as unreal, Hufford notes. He has interviewed many U.S. medical students who, even after hearing about REM sleep and the brain's threat-detection system, insist that their frightening meetings with the Night Crusher were real. Until sharing their stories with Hufford, most of the students had never told them to anyone. "I suspect that millions of people in the United States are walking around never having told anybody about having these terrifying experiences," Hufford says. That's unlikely to change anytime soon, he adds. Scientists and physicians treat reports of mingling with supernatural creatures and spirits as evidence of mental imbalance. And mainstream religions condemn connections with ghosts, demons, and evil presences. But the world of sleep works according to its own rules. Whether shunned or embraced, Hufford says, the Night Crusher returns with frightening regularity. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have a comment on this article that you would like considered for publication in Science News, send it to editors@sciencenews.org. Please include your name and location. To subscribe to Science News (print), go to <a href="https://www.kable.com/pub/scnw/">/www.kable.com/pub/scnw/</a> subServices.asp. To sign up for the free weekly e-LETTER from Science News, go to <a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/subscribe_form.asp.">www.sciencenews.org/pages..._form.asp.</a> References: Cheyne, J.A. 2001. The ominous numinous: Sensed presence and 'other' hallucinations. Journal of Consciousness Studies 8:133-150. Abstract available at <a href="http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/imp/">www.ingentaconnect.com/content/imp/</a> jcs/2001/00000008/F0030005/1203. Reprint available at <a href="http://www.nidsci.org/pdf/cheyne.pdf.">www.nidsci.org/pdf/cheyne.pdf.</a> Hinton, D.E., et al. 2005. 'The ghost pushes you down': Sleep paralysis-type panic attacks in a Khmer refugee population. Transcultural Psychiatry 42(March):46-77. Abstract available at <a href="http://tps.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/42/1/46.">tps.sagepub.com/cgi/conte...t/42/1/46.</a> Hufford, D.J. 2005. Sleep paralysis as spiritual experience. Transcultural Psychiatry 42(March):11-45. Abstract available at <a href="http://tps.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/42/1/11.">tps.sagepub.com/cgi/conte...t/42/1/11.</a> McNally, R.J., and S.A. Clancy. 2005. Sleep paralysis, sexual abuse, and space alien abduction. Transcultural Psychiatry 42(March):113-122. Abstract available at <a href="http://tps.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/42/1/113.">tps.sagepub.com/cgi/conte.../42/1/113.</a> Paradis, C.M., and S. Friedman. 2005. Sleep paralysis in African Americans with panic disorder. Transcultural Psychiatry 42(March):123-134. Abstract available at <a href="http://tps.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/42/1/123.">tps.sagepub.com/cgi/conte.../42/1/123.</a> Yeung, A., Y. Xu, and D.F. Chang. 2005. Prevalence and illness beliefs of sleep paralysis among Chinese psychiatric patients in China and the United States. Transcultural Psychiatry 42(March):134-145. Abstract available at <a href="http://tps.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/42/1/135.">tps.sagepub.com/cgi/conte.../42/1/135.</a> Further Readings: Fukuda, K., et al. 1998. The prevalence of sleep paralysis among Canadian and Japanese college students. Dreaming 8(June):59–66. Abstract available at <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1023/B<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"> REM.0000005896.68083.ae.">dx.doi.org/10.1023/B<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"> REM....68083.ae.</a> For J. Allan Cheyne's Web site, with extensive information about sleep paralysis, go to <a href="http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html.">watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html.</a> Sources: J. Allan Cheyne Department of Psychology University of Waterloo 200 University Avenue Waterloo, ON N2L 3G1 Canada Susan A. Clancy INCAE Camps Francisco de Sola Carretera Sur Km. 15.5 Managua Nicaragua Devon E. Hinton Southeast Asian Clinic Arbour Counseling Services Lowell, MA 01852 David J. Hufford Department of Humanities Penn State College of Medicine Hershey, PA 17033 Richard J. McNally Department of Psychology Harvard University 1230 William James Hall 33 Kirkland Street Cambridge, MA 02138 Cheryl M. Paradis Department of Psychology Marymount Manhattan College 221 East 71st Street New York, NY 10021 Albert S. Yeung Massachusetts General Hospital Depression Clinical & Research, 4th Floor 50 Staniford Street Boston, MA 02114 <a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20050709/bob9.asp">www.sciencenews.org/artic...9/bob9.asp</a>

by **chiggerbit** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:50 pm

Wow, thanks, emad, great article! Although I didn't suffer from paralysis in my series, what it has in common with them is that seemlessness between waking and sleeping, which made me ask my husband if he was sure I had been dreaming. They first started a few weeks after we had moved to a new house in a new state--beautiful house, beautiful setting. But, when I walked in the door, all I could say was that I didn't like the house, over and over again, but I didn't know why. Then over the next couple of weeks, I started pulling down the shades all the time, even though I love sunshine and light. In the first nightmare, I dreamed that I woke up IN BED and saw the sillouette of a figure leaning over my side of the bed with hand raised. I screamed (for real), my husband grabbed me, and me thinking it was this person, I pulled my husband over me onto the floor. A couple more dreams of similar nature, one of a man climbing through the window of the bedroom, me moaning/screaming, but nothing physical now. Then I learned from the little old lady who lived across the road that she and her husband had lived in an old house which had been situated where our house was, but many years before. Her daughter and son-in-law had lived with them. This son-in-law had been a peeping tom and serial rapist, and had murdered a young girl babysitting in a house he was peeping on, then he had hung the poor thing's body in a wellhouse in front of the house until he could dispose of it. The wellhouse was still in front of the house in which we were living. Ghost story, right? I don't think so. AFTER I found this out and told my husband, he calmly told me he had known all about it, but hadn't wanted me to know because I might not want to live there. He had access through his job to all the court and police records, which he read. Ass. It made me a believer in ESP. Once I knew, the series was done. No PTSD and no sexual abuse, just a new house. What these seem to have in common is that the dreamers all know exactly where they are in reality and in the dream--in bed.

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