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Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:52 pm**

I've been thinking about grays a lot lately. I've never seen one and I've never had a strange experience like the one in today's RI blog entry. But the image of the "gray" is extremely disturbing to me. not the dumb little "TAKE ME TO YOUR DEALER!!" t-shirts where the cartoon alien is smoking pot, etc etc...not the friendly, cartoony version for the masses, I'm talking about the few photos out there that look "realistic", ...they're really jarring to me. I hadn't thought about them in a while, but when I read the interview with Kathleen Sullivan, the one here on RI, the part where she mentions being taken to an underground facility and meeting "alien children" was really disturbing. The fact that at least one of them physically looked like what we know of as "grays", is just...I dunno..."out there"...to say the least. and then to further learn that the supposed children were being raised to actually believe they are aliens, even learning an "alien language"...echh...creepy. But the thing that got me the most with what Kathleen Sullivan was saying was when she described being taken to the facade of the "alien ship", with obvious humans in alien costumes...it got me thinking. Maybe it's no coincidence that Alistair Crowley's "LAM" so closely resembles what we now think of as grays. If we're supposing that the power elite use ritual and magick and "workings" to open doorways or to continue their reign of power, maybe the whole concept of the grey, and what it looks like, has been constructed entirely by these same people. That might also explain why people that report being abducted are passed off as being crazy...because the powers that be (including popular science) have latched on to and pushed the idea that these things are from "outer space"...when in reality they could be more terrestrial than we know....or they could be dimensional, and popular science/the powers that be don't quite understand how the "other dimension" works...so they keep us dumbed down by making it appear irrational and crazy and "not possible scientifically". What if all the kooky stuff we've heard about "staged alien invasions" is a lot deeper than just landing some fake flying saucers? what if there really IS a plan to introduce "aliens" to the masses here on earth, but those "aliens" are just genetic creations, made in labs somewhere? I want to say that that wouldn't be possible, but today a news story pops up where scientists have cloned a dog... ....they say that what's released to the public is somewhere around 15 to 20 years behind what's REALLY the cutting edge in technology behind the scenes...cloning is a "technology", right?....I dunno. I'm probably just walking off the deep end, but that's really frightening to me. Would it really be that hard to pull off? to raise a few dozen genetic creations to believe they're something that they're not? Which then, (for me personally), throws in religion and our current views about ourselves and how we've waged war on each other for centuries, based on things like religion and misconceptions and the worry that the other guy will beat us to the "fill-in-the-blank" all powerful device/fortune/knowledge that will allow them to rule over us. I'm not sure what's more terrifying, the idea that grays are a more evolved life form from a different dimension, or that they're actually "screens" or genetic creations made by people here on our plane of existence. I'm sure what I'm saying is nothing new. I really haven't read too much about alien abduction, personally. so maybe this is all thoroughly trampled ground...but it still makes me feel uneasy.

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:37 pm**

Ted, Cloning is already "old hat" stuff. Most of us are aware that selective breeding can bring out certain traits, but gene splicing is already being used in various labs. As one of many Gen-X mutant kids I'm already aware of natural genetic changes that humans are being suppressed from discussing evolving into the general population. The actors in your idea could simply be bringing out those traits to an extreme in a select setting. For example, here's the curse I live with. Enhanced vision resolution - don't need a magnifying glass, but damn all those dots on the TV. Extened vision spectrum - limited UV and infrared - lotsa things look 'purple' and can see the light blink on older TV remotes. Enhanced hearing - great to hear whispers, but I can't walk into a TV store without pain, and hear dog whistles! Smoking has thankfully dulled my smell and taste.. down to almost "normal" levels. I can still taste and smell food coloring. I couldn't figure out why people thought I was a total freak until high school, where I met others who admitted to having at least one of these 'conditions'. Most of us learned to shut up and not mention it because of being made fun of by other kids. Imagine looking for the right shade of purple crayon to draw bumble bees with... freak! So yeah, with a starter kit of slightly evolved humans it would be VERY possible to breed some interesting 'aliens'. Mix large eyes, slender frame, short stature with some enhanced senses and .. OH .. almost forgot about the GREY part. Here: <a href="http://homepages.together.net/~rjstan/">homepages.together.net/~rjstan/</a> Or else this is all crazy.. and it's all just the guys from <a href="http://www.starwars.nu/bilder/bildarkiv/tatooinesuns/cantinadragt.jpg" target="top">this picture..</a> <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/>

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:06 pm**

ZeroHaven: so you hear the highpitched whining from old tvs that have been left on too, eh? Interesting.

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:20 pm**

I think sometimes the "hardware" researchers, who've imposed a paradigm of physical aliens physically abducting folks often leave out the high (should say higher) weirdness stuff that doesn't fit that paradigm. This is the kind of stuff Vallee started looking into and what convinced him the "nuts and bolts" explanation didn't go far enough. I think I remember some high strangeness stuff from one of John Mack's books, as well. Passport to Magonia by Vallee is an excellent such collection of high weirdness stories. It's ironic, then, that the French researcher in Close Encounters of the Third Kind was modelled on Vallee. (Did he consult on that film...can't remember.) One of my favorite nuts and bolts books is UFO's and the National Security State by Richard Dolan, culled mainly from military records. I wonder, though, if he left out high weirdness stuff. In fact, the weirdest stuff probably would never have made the reports in the first place. Magonia. I think maybe we're all headed there.

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:25 pm**

I think looking closely at the University of Wisconsin and other institutions which have done a lot of animal experimentation would help to reveal more of this story. It's not easy, but I have a feeling that much of this connects to the universities. We know that psychology departments were heavily influenced by the nazi's, just as the military and space programs were. And as I've mentioned before the whole Harry Harlow story seems to be a hoax. Not that he didn't invent things like the "rape rack" and "pit of despair" and torture monkeys to death, but that humans could actually LEARN something from it. And that what they learned was "how to love their children". Bizarro. I will torture animals so you will know to love your children. Obviously the guy was working through some really bad stuff (at tax payers expense/monkey life expense/student ignorance expense). Which leads me to my point. What were the real reasons for his experiments 40 years ago? Doesn't it seem possible that the SAME experiments were being done on humans and the results compared? And the UW-Madison has never stopped experimenting on monkeys, dogs, cats, rats, you name it. They are also at the forefront of all bio/chem, genetic, stem cell research. "Science" has pretty much wiped out other departments getting funding. It would seem highly unlikely that they have not already cloned some mixture of human/ape. And notice how the once governor of Wisconsin and recent health and human services secretary Tommy Thompson was the first person to come out and get RFID tagged. Once a cheerleader for the UW and it's many corporations, now a cheerleader for the taggers.

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:29 pm**

Ted, What you describe has been my thinking all along, but then I have not read the abductee/entity literature either. Lots of other mc survivors remember similar things. One remembers kids being dressed up in little gray rubber suits. Another remembers that when the perp-scientists would come to get her, one or two would be dressed up in alien costumes. I can't go into detail, but what I've seen validates the above anecdotes. PW

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:05 pm**

."..because the powers that be (including popular science) have latched on to and pushed the idea that these things are from "outer space"...when in reality they could be more terrestrial than we know....or they could be dimensional, and popular science/the powers that be don't quite understand how the "other dimension" works...so they keep us dumbed down by making it appear irrational and crazy and "not possible scientifically" I think the aliens are in another dimension and the distant cousins of humans. Greys are the lil ones..I Have this dream paralysis and think I am dreaming but am still somewhat awake..I have encountered these lil fiends whom are totally unfrindly.. on a few different occassions Now was it just a bad dream or an attempted alien abduction.. BTW Hit em in the throat and show force..they run crying.. DREAM or real? I doubt if they are superior.beings.. ..that seems like propaganda so the elites can keep scaring us into submission..like the aliens show up and some folks go WOW !how godlike.!!. Give em your wallet.. your homes..lil cuties like ET. Seems like conditioning.. I think they are more of the same ..Control Freaks crashing the party same as the busheviks.. the elites will use any excuse to keep us divided and arguing..

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:38 am**

I do think there is a lot of intentional misdirection going on re grays, and that part of that is, as Willow said, to serve as screen memories for mind control subjects. The image has become so iconic that encounters with far different entities are, to some, immediately suspect simply because of their difference. But in my reading, many of the most compelling cases are not grays, but entities of far different aspects. The variety - the novelty, even - is another indicator for me that this is not an extraterrestrial phenomenon.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:10 pm**

thanks for all the replies, guys. Zero- So you have heightened sensitivity? that's interesting. I knew a kid in jr. high that claimed to have it....I never knew what to think. what about your sense of touch...is that also highly tuned? dbeach- can you describe your experience with the grays? one thing I'm curious about...when people have these experiences with these entities, does it seem "real"? What I mean is, do they seem "concrete" and "touchable"? or do they seem more like an apparition...something sort of "phasing through" into reality? It's like when Jeff wrote about Terrance McKenna and the DMT experiences...I got the impression that DMT experiences seem REAL...like REALLY real....not like an LSD trip where things can just be kind of fuzzy or flowing one into the next...it sounded to me like experiences on DMT have "hard edges"...and are not dream-like at all. maybe I'm wrong though. Willow- that's VERY interesting....the stuff about the little gray rubber suits... I guess that would fall in line directly with what Kathleen Sullivan experienced. Which then leads me to wonder, HOW does this happen? how do these people that are using the image of the gray actually accomplish this without being seen or caught? I'm not saying I don't believe it...I do. I'm just wondering how this happens. if it's just a simple matter of hardware...ie nuts and bolts....how do they get away with it? Jeff- after reading your latest entry, I was kinda thinking that. There are people reporting all kinds of entities...maybe it is just a bunch of crap, and these grays are "just for show"...like you and willow said, a screen for something else. Reading about Mullis really got my mind wandering...the part where he said that after seeing the raccoon he wondered if it was actually a hologram...I wonder what it actually LOOKED like....because he was shining a flashlight on it...wouldn't that help determine the solidity of the raccoon as an object with mass and three dimensions? I'm also wondering what a "glowing" 3 dimensional object would really look like...and again, if Mullis felt that this raccoon existed in our dimension, on our plane. either way, an apparition-like encounter or a hard edged, "real" encounter...both are pretty jolting to imagine and I can't decide which would be weirder. Someone on the blog comments section suggested that maybe the Mullis cabin is in a "magical place"...another stated that Mullis was fond of LSD and then another was talking about how Mullis and his chemist friends would change compositions of certain drugs once they became illegal and then "try again"....maybe he got into something like DMT as well. I'm wondering then if drugs like DMT maybe have "tags"...like maybe the use of DMT "tags" you as a verified "explorer" to the other side...and further contact is attempted by the other side at later points in time. maybe there are certain areas on the planet...actually...strike that...maybe there are certain areas in our realm of existence...that are weaker than others, the "walls flex", and communication is made easier. Or maybe the fact that Mullis experimented with changing the composition of psychoactive drugs was an unintentional "magical working" in and of itself...and the simple fact that he experimented with changing something like that "tagged" him. I dunno...I'm still trying to wrap my head around all this.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:49 pm**

Mullis details another experience that I find fascinating. I'm going by memory because I don't have the book handy. He was using nitrous oxide, and stupidly attached a mask to his face. He slipped into unconsciousness. He awoke across the room from the tank, his mouth frozen. He needed treatment for the burns on his face. Some time later (years?) he met a woman that he was strongly attracted to. They had sex, and afterward she told him she had known him in the past. He didn't believe it. She said something like, "I saved your life." He asked how. She told him that she had seen him while he was dying of asphyxiation and connected to the nitrous tank. On an astral level, she saw that he was dying, projected herself into the room, removed the mask from his face, and moved the tank across the room away from him. He hadn't told anyone the details of the incident.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:46 pm**

I had actually posted this in the comments under the "racoon". Dream's End said... Actually, I just dug up my copy. The incident the last writer was referring to was without psychoactives, if my quick reread was accurate. The friend asked him to look into his eyes and continue to. And what should happen? The friends face starts shifting into other faces and even nonhuman faces, all the while remaining the face of his friend. Then the psychic connection came, and because they are scientists, as they realized the connection, they did a test, each writing down the next word they would say...and the words matched. Another incident is interesting. Mullis huffed some nitrous out of his personal little tank (!) after taking an antihistamine (he's quite open about his drug experiments). Rather stupid, as he fell asleep with the gas still running and literally froze half his face. It wasn't clear why he had awakened at all while the gas was still on or how the tube he was using had gotten placed far enough away to mitigate the damage. Then sometime later a woman he'd never met makes eye contact with him at a coffee shop or somewhere..comes to his table and they end up heading to his house making love after barely speaking. Happens to me all the time...ahem. Anyway, he really felt she was somehow "in his mind"..."tickling his hypothalamus, " I think he put it. She said, "you can learn this" and proceeded to talk about him as if she knew him, including the nitrous accident. How did she know about that? She claimed that she'd been astral projecting and had found him in distress. Knowing he was to be important to her, she moved the hose (never heard of astral bodies doing that...) He freaks out about all this but then she says she'll teach him how. They meet some number of times but then she says she's got a big situation to deal with and she cuts him off. Turns out she had cancer and two weeks after she met with him to inform him of this (and to try to score some interferon, which he couldn't get for her) he receives a call that she's dead. Just thought it was interesting.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:17 pm**

The topic of children with heightened sensitivities is interesting. Some believe this is the result of changes to our DNA from all the engineered food in our system, as well as pesticides in our water supply. Connected to this is the early onset of menses in young girls, happening as young as 10 years of age, has become common. Many think this is due to bovine growth hormone in everything related to cows - dairy as well as meat. Some consider the increase in autism as related to this and autistic behaviors are a result of hyper-sensitivity to stimuli, especially noise. There is a new category of behavior disorder in children that is related to hyper-sensitivity, with extreme tantrums displayed that seem to be beyond what is normal for children and not the result of poor parenting. When I first heard about this, I thought "these kids just need discipline and parents who will be firm and consistent." But, as I read more I saw things written about how as these kids got older and could articulate more, they would say how overwhelming all stimuli had been. A parent raising his/her voice to get a child to clean his room would be excruciating and result in out of control tantrums. I think they have actually done some testing and proven this to be true - these kids can hear pitches and volumes most of us cannot. My sister has twins who, in hindsight, I think may have a low level of this. They would throw fits about wearing clothes, and their consistent reason was it hurt their skin. They could feel "pricks" and start screaming - and sure enough, after inspecting their clothes, there would be something my sister had not seen, a thorn or plastic object - not something most of us would probably even notice. Were her kids just being poorly behaved? I don't know. All very interesting...

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:45 pm**

Ted the Dog said: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>What if there really IS a plan to introduce "aliens" to the masses here on earth, but those "aliens" are just genetic creations, made in labs somewhere?<hr></blockquote>It's an old concept. A 1963 episode of the classic TV series, The Outer Limits, expessed this very idea: The Architects of Fear Starring <a href="http://www.innermind.com/outerlimits/pictures/o_pitsnn/o_ol14.jpg" target="top">Robert Culp</a> <a href="http://www.television.westumulka.com/outerlimits/architect/">www.television.westumulka.com/outerlimits/architect/</a> Synopsis <a href="http://www.innermind.com/outerlimits/guides/ol01.txt" target="top">here</a>: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>A team of desperate scientists, seeking an end to the threat of war, surgically metamorphose scientist Robert Culp into an "alien" in an elaborate scenario designed to frighten the world's nations into peaceful coexistance by creating for them a "common enemy"--an enemy from space. Culp's death is faked--not even his wife is aware of the plan--and he's then subjected to a series of operations. But the noble scheme backfires: His spaceship crashes in a wooded area, where he is shot by frightened hunters. The "creature" limps back to the lab and reveals himself to his horrified wife before collapsing at her feet.<hr></blockquote>If at first you don't succeed, try, try, again. Watch the skies!

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:21 pm**

TED This is a close image of the fiends who have visited me in my home during sleep paralysis..which is more than likely an attempted abduction I do not follow the bible codes but the image on this book is accurate They are vicious and look like they are wrapped in grey masking tape.. Will send more info to your in box.. <a href="http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/book-page.htm">www.thewatcherfiles.com/book-page.htm</a>

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:27 am**

On the sleep paralysis/amnesia note.. I only twice had the fascinating experience of waking up with total amnesia. It only lasted minutes, but it was so total I didn't recognize the concept of windows and curtains as I stared at them. I could almost physically feel my brain working.. searching the database for definitions of what and where I was. Knowing this is possible, and knowing what it feels like to wake up paralyzed (due to a loud alarm clock), I believe that it would be possible to induce both states in someone simultaneously using external means. This reminds me that a lot of UFO stories involve hearing some sort of 'hum' and seeing flashing lights. Drugs, magnetic fields, lights and sounds at certain frequencies.. all have the ability to affect brain function. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Ted the dog - what about your sense of touch...is that also highly tuned?<hr></blockquote> I believe so, but don't know how to compare that sense. I can feel makeup on my face, deodorant, etc, but can tune it out the same way most people tune out feeling their underwear. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>GDN01-They would throw fits about wearing clothes, and their consistent reason was it hurt their skin.<hr></blockquote> Yes they are hyper-sensitive and should be taken seriously. I was lucky my mom had the same problem, so she understood completely. I guess that answer's Ted's 'sense of touch' question. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>glubglubglub - so you hear the highpitched whining from old tvs that have been left on too, eh?<hr></blockquote> oh yes. some of my freakdom came from asking teachers to turn off the TV when they didn't believe it was on (no little light). Mom and I test only up to 21khz, because the equipment didn't go higher. <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/>

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