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Space: the final frontier for modern religious expression?<br><br>From the stars/planets of Kolob in the Mormon Cosmology, to the motherplanes of the NOI, to the out-and-out UFO cults of the latter half of the 20th century, it seems that the latest wave of religious expression has a serious bent towards things extraterrestrial. URANTIA has a UFO angle, Scientology, and lets not forget the Pledians and the "Nine." This is eminently fascinating to me for some reason. When I found out about the Mormon planet thing, I was amused, but the ezekiel motherplanes of w.f. muhammad floored me. At least Thelema doesnt seem concerned with UFOs and outer space—but then there is that haunting LAM portrait.<br><br>I wonder: has there been a new religion or cult spring up in the last 200 years that did not concern itself with other planets, UFOs, and cheesy space opera?<br><br>The only one i can think of is wicca and ceremonial magick, who deal with the "ultra"terrestrial, which some say may be the same thing...<br> <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/ufos.html">religiousmovements.lib.vi.../ufos.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> We are talking here about a very small group of people. Gordon Melton's Encyclopedia of American Religions identifies twenty-six Flying Saucer Cults. Only a small proportion have developed a theology and/or escatology. Many lack a strong commitment to the proselytization of the "truth" of UFOs. Rather, they appear to be at best loosely organized audience cults.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>

I seen UFO witha friend 15-20 ' away ..very close coulda got on the roof of my Corvair and tocuched it lights shing different colors windows silver grey <br><br>I see these UFO photos on Rense and other sites blinking lights in the sky ..bunch of bull in my opinion .<br><br>I seen the real deal<br><br>have a witness<br><br>I also have met and fought the lil greys in my bedroom and home last summer .. lil creeps hit them in the throat.<br><br>Thye are in another dimension BUT I stiil managed to grab one and choke it <br><br>ALL their superiority is BULL PROPAGANDA of the worst kind designed to scare us to surrender<br><br>YOUR SOUL is the MOST powerful weapon in CREATION.<br><br>.the PTB and these creepy aliens will use all kind of tricks to control this planet..BUT this is our HOME.<br><br>Tell em GO mooch somewhere else creeps<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

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ok, i guess the subgenius would be one with no ET affilliations! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>ok, i guess the subgenius would be one with no ET affilliations!<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Are you kidding me? I mean, if you want to keep the glorps away, that's fine -- but you're not helping the nameless mission with this kind of disinformation -- or ARE you? <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 5/10/06 10:17 am<br></i>

my limited understanding of subgenius is that its a joke. im not spreading disinfo, im just new here. "long time reader, first time poster." <p></p><i></i>

The sci-fi series that explored legends of the Planet Kobol, in which the Ninth Lord of Kobol lead the migration of the 12 tribes to planet Caprica and 13th tribe to Earth. <br><br>So there's an interesting concept that we've heard about here at RI.....<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>the Nine that lead, or influence, humanity</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.<br>Could be just a coincidence, but who knows?<br><br>In addition to being Mormon propaganda, the show had lots of strange Islamic overtones.<br><br>In one episode the cast encounters strange lights in the sky and a Count Iblis. Iblis is the Arabic word for the Devil.<br><br>Some of the crew are taken on baord a "starship" whose inhabitants appear to be angels, except that they are adorned in full berkhas.<br><br><br><br>As to the Church of Bob....I always assumed it was a joke, but they were partly resposible for the tragedy with the Heaven's Gate cult.<br>The Subgeniuses had predicted that a comet would be found that would be called "Hail Bob" and that behind it there would be a UFO flying to take the believers away on X day.<br>After the comet was named "Hale-Bopp", the Heaven's Gate crew took the ball and ran with it. <p></p><i></i>

Dude, I was just messing with you.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>As to the Church of Bob....I always assumed it was a joke<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>, but they were partly resposible for the tragedy with the Heaven's Gate cult</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<br>The Subgeniuses had predicted that a comet would be found that would be called "Hail Bob" and that behind it there would be a UFO flying to take the believers away on X day.<br>After the comet was named "Hale-Bopp", the Heaven's Gate crew took the ball and ran with it.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Now THAT is disinformation. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

That's exactly what happened and the Church Of The Subgenius talks about it here.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.subgenius.com/hellsgate/HELLSGATE.html">www.subgenius.com/hellsga...SGATE.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>

CURSE OF KING TUT IS ON NEXT WK<br><br>Sci fi for some ..reality for me<br><br>HAVE YOU SEEN THE SAUCERS??<br><br>Jeff Starship 1971 .Live over Winterland.<br><br>Yu wiil alls ee them soon enuff .<br><br>Many will bow and genuflect a these foreign gods..<br><br>Me I am gonna throw rocks at em and tell em to go home..<br><br>WEARE prepaing our selves for the inevitable...<br><br>I remember the Twilight Zone TV series: "To serve man"<br><br>the nice tall aliens came to serve man..It said so on their book after the initial translation.....till the veryy end of the show.the aliens looked like good guys<br><br>BUT the " to serve man book" was a cook book..<br>the aliens were cannibals <br><br>Elvis is gona zap all of em anyways cuz Elvis is evrywhere.. <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>That's exactly what happened and the Church Of The Subgenius talks about it here.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Hahaha -- LO! and UH -- BE HELD.<br><br>I think it's YOU who needs to do "some research". <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

I have many friends who are in the SubGenius group and they have been talking about this since it happened.<br>According to them, it went down exactly the way I said.<br><br>If you're gonna deny what I wrote, then can you please elaborate?<br><br>The link between the Heaven's Gate tragedy and the Church Of The Subgenius is easily verified by even a cursory glance at the link I gave you.<br><br>Here's what it said for anyone who is interested.<br><br><br>THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT THE HALE-BOPP COMET!!<br><br>SPONSORED BY NIKE!!<br><br>3-27-1BX<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"NO, NO, we said, "Wait for the COMMENT, Hail "Bob!""</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>ONLY 465 days EARLY, YA FRUITCAKES!!!<br><br>They call these amateurs a CULT? Buncha dead posers, couldn't brainwash their way out of a wet paper bag. <br><br>39 DEAD CULT ZOMBIES. Well WHOOP te F*CKING DOO and paint me red running! H*LL, we had more people than THAT at the damned X-DAY DRILL!! We wouldn't even bother to SPIKE THE KOOL-AID for less than 1,000 corpses. (We Smiths like to keep up with the Jones, you know.)<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>DO(bbs) PREDICTED IT ALL!!! It's all been right there in black and white, in PRINT, for what, 15 years now! The Xist advance scout saucer hidden in the comet, even the NAME of the d*mned COMET!! NOT TO MENTION THE DATE, god d*mn it, the DATE!!! DUH!!</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Oh, but these BRILLIANT OCCULTISTS didn't think Dobbs' revealed word was GOOD enough for 'em! In fact, thought his LAST NAME was 3 letters too long! Didn't like the fact that he SMOKED! And most heretical of ALL, they SHUNNED SEX and DRUGS, but LOVED HARD WORK and SWEETNESS-AND-LIGHT BULLCRAP!! <br><br>Oh yeah, and they had their OWN JESUS!! F*cking b*stard running around saying he's Jesus. CHRIST! Jesus is down in the garage right now packing swag for the SRL show in Austin! (I kinda wish we didn't have to leave tomorrow... these cultists had AWFUL timing, in more ways than one.)<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I have many friends who are in the SubGenius group and they have been talking about this since it happened.<br>According to them, it went down exactly the way I said.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Your many friends are either fucking with you, or just plain stupid themselves. My "problem" is that you claim to understand that this "Bob" stuff is all a "joke"; yet somehow, you take THIS claim about Hale-Bopp at face value and try to heap some "real world" BLAME on The Church of the SubGenius for the deaths of others -- totally missing the point and turning a good joke sinister. I fucking KNOW that people who align themselves with "the SubGenius group" have been talking about this since it happened -- because I AM ONE OF THEM! Of course, if I have to explain this much, then you're hopelessly pink. Shit, maybe I'M hopelessly pink -- I hear it's "going around" these days. I mean, I AM totally undermining the intentions of a good rumor -- aren't I? <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 5/10/06 4:45 pm<br></i>

What I'm saying is that it was a tragic misunderstanding.<br><br>The Church predicted that there would be a comet in 1998, or whenever, that would be named "Hail Bob".<br>It would be "X Day" and all the good lil slackers would get to ride the UFO.<br><br>Next, the comet appears and is named "Hale Bopp", which is very close.<br><br>Then, in November 1996, amateur astronomer Chuck Shramek of Houston, Texas took a CCD image of the comet, which showed a fuzzy, slightly elongated object nearby. When his computer sky-viewing program did not identify the star, Shramek called the Art Bell radio program to announce that he had discovered a "Saturn-like object" following Hale-Bopp.<br>UFO enthusiasts, such as remote viewing proponent Courtney Brown, soon concluded that there was an alien spacecraft following the comet.<br>In fact, the object was simply an 8.5-magnitude star, SAO141894, which did not appear on Shramek's computer program because the user preferences were set incorrectly. Shramek refused to admit to his mistake when this was pointed out to him.<br><br>So, then the nutbars in the Heaven's Gate cult took this as a sign that it REALLY was "X Day", or whatever, and offed themselves.<br><br>That's why Stang, or whoever, was addressing them in such a manner.<br>The whole cult was a rip-off of Subgenius "ideals", or whatever you wanna call them.<br><br>These idiots even believed that Star Trek was real.<br> <p></p><i></i>