harrassing emails, daily into my box

by **LilyPatToo** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:27 pm

Here's one I got right after posting about having been stalked, on a DID board: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> has to pay for this, and somebody will! Just wait, just let me get to the Yes, he would have made a good stalker. What the hell, do I feel sorry repeating. "Forward!" He could not hear a thing any more. Once he saw <hr></blockquote> Coincidence? Here's another one I received right after posting about my worry that my handlers will strike at my family: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>as death, disease and other struggles of life. Sociologists have considered the . people often find themselves getting sidetracked once they put off the option to attend college, that can. mother that her son is dead, another example of such metal destruction is seen. He assu<hr></blockquote> A little reminder that my only son died of a rare, radiation-caused cancer? Or just pure chance that it arrived the same day that I'd posted about my worries about my family that is left to me? I have an email folder FULL of ones like those--over 140 of them--each one "coincidentally" arriving right after I'd posted online about something closely linked to the "word salad". But don't expect to be believed by anyone who's uninformed about the psychological warfare used to keep MC survivors in line. LilyPat

by **havanagilla** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:40 pm

sorry about you son, how old was he and when did this happen?

by **orz** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:05 pm

Anyone in this day and age who is unfamilar with the concept of spam, clicks links in spam or replies to it, is unaware of nigerian spam emails, and/or believes them to be personal is shockingly internet-naiive and should probably proceed with caution and educate themselves asap. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"> As for the whole idea of spam being personal attacks/triggers etc, I'm afraid I can't really bring myself believe it... I mean it's certainly possible, but from my perspective there's just no way I can distinguish this idea from extreme paranoia. (which i guess is the beauty of it if it were true?) Also as i've said before, what would be the point in including threats, triggers etc in emails that any sensible person would delete without reading!?!?!?!? Just doesn't seem practical to me. As far as conspiricies about spam go, here's mine: So little spam these days is even trying to sell anything,... certainly most are intended to collect active email adresses to sell to other spammers, and for 'phishing' for gullible morons' passwords, credit card details etc... but surely not many people actually fall for this stuff, and there's SO MUCH spam (ie this 95% of all email quoted in the article) So... I think the extreme volume of spam out there is promoted by the powers that be to hinder people's use of the internet for communication of truth, organisation of subversive activities etc. When 95% of your mail is total random gibberish, viruses etc, and probably a good chunk of the remaining 5% ends up getting accidentally deleted or spam filtered, it certainly makes it hard to communicate. I have actually noticed that people don't seem to be emailing that much these days... (or maybe they just don't reply to me! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"> ) ... the prevailence of spam will drive people to more controllable, corporate owned means of communication (eg. sites like Myspace, now banned in US libraries) which can then be monitored, censored, restricted etc. (I'm not sure i believe that theory but I'm quite pleased with it! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> )

by **havanagilla** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:13 pm

in general your comment is correct, and perhaps this is a good sounding board as well, to examine paranoia, bring out in the open, and then perhaps safely dismiss them forever. I am always better off saying what my fears are, getting responses, and then re-examining my initial position. People who were stalked extensively are in danger of becoming paranoid or in fact "hyper vigilant" is the correct word. Spam could be USED to stalk, in order to disguise a message and prevent investigation. It has been used by wife beaters for ages, such as "love notes" and flowers sent to the target spouse, that look actually like loving acts but contain a few hints that only she will recognize as threats, and one black rose, among the flowers etc. You read about it in books about stalking by males who kill women who leave them or reject them. (namely, having control issues). --- Usually the poison will be coated for disguise and also for added torture. -- I am not offended by people telling me i am paranoid. I am grateful for useful info, some which dispells fear and some which helps protect oneself from threats.

by **blanc** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:14 pm

at the beginning of 'my' case I got spam - so called, whose content was so specific it could not have been the genuine random article. ie it refered to actual details in the police complaint as they were made to police. cyber angels traced one (first) to approx area in the US. then i changed addresses several times, finally registering myself as a nationality, age, country and name different to mine, and either they gave up because it hadn't the desired effect of scaring me off, or they didn't find that one. I never get any kind of spam on that email (touch wood) where I am an octogenarian. but I get loads of the expand your dick, see our pics of young teens etc on my real-name address, (which is under my husbands name). in fact, I've given up using it for real communication and just let it fester, gathering spammy stuff. the ISP ditches it all from time to time.

by **4911** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:14 pm

not to be offensive - but I think there may be another explanation we could be overlooking. We all generate some synchronicity. Maybe the mails were because of that, and maybe thats all there is to them, LillyPat. I dont know much for sure, I should add. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=4911>4911</A> at: 7/31/06 3:16 pm

by **havanagilla** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:16 pm

LpT, i also advise, when joining boards for victims to watch for cues and threats in posts on the board. I have that happen too, when messages that seemed perfectly innocent were actually threats and attempts to silence a certain participant.

by **orz** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:32 pm

Another possibility for covert use of spam would be along the lines of the mysterious "numbers stations" on radio... ie certain messages could contain coded info for espionage etc. But dunno if that would really make sense for anyone to do or not. Personally I quite enjoy spam. My filter is pretty good so it's not such a problem, I switch off html images in email (and never spam click links of course) so there's no risk of them getting any info/confirmation of my address, and when i occasionally open one either because i'm not sure if it might be a genuine message, or because the title is entertainingly ludicrous, I often find amazing surrealist poetry in the randomly-generated texts. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> Certainly it would be pretty creepy if any of these accurately pertained to my life, (tho even this could be explained; someone i know could have a virus on their computer, and also have my email in their address book, so things/info pertaining to me from their PC could end up in spam sent to me) but I'm not sure whether I'd see it as a deliberate message or an "infinite monkeys" synchronicity thing...

by **LilyPatToo** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:39 pm

More "coincidences" with spam today--I went to another board where I've posted for years and, lo and behold, a mentally unbalanced person had just accused ME of spamming him--! What are the chances?! *LOL* I know that it COULD be coincidence, but is it? That very first spam was just too pointed to have been coincidental. This politician has been named by other MC survivors, but only one perversion has been named in connection with him. The one that my alter Lily dreams of him performing with her is entirely different and so far I've not found one single reference to him and it. But hours after I post about it, I get my very first porn spam? Come on! That's so astronomically against chance that it's ludicrous. havanagilla, yes, my only son died of a rare kind of cancer that is only caused by the mother's exposure to radiation while the child is in utero. Since other mind control program survivors from my era have testified about also being used in radiation experiments (and his father was a nuclear physicist, for Pete's sake!), I think I was used that way too. I also had a very bizarre mammogram last time and the doctor's first question was, "Were you ever exposed to high levels of radiation?" IOW, I do understand that for most folks, porn emails are just random. But for people who've been part of mind control projects, the perversion featured or those "word salad" portions are easily used to frighten or trigger us. The "snicker factor" around mind control is so pervasive that they don't expect us to try to nail them on it at all. And if we do speak out, then we're disbelieved and we discredit ourselves by sounding paranoid. But that doesn't change the fact that this is done to us. The kind of key word similarity that occurs is just too far beyond chance. And if it's just ordinary synchronicity, then why does it just occur with mind control-related key words? LilyPat

by **havanagilla** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:50 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Since other mind control program survivors from my era have testified about also being used in radiation experiments (and his father was a nuclear physicist, for Pete's sake!), I think I was used that way too<hr></blockquote> WHen was that if I may ask ? cause there are reports on radiation in the clinton task force etc. did you look it up ? and where did your husband work ? (was he the one with you in holland in the early 80's as well ?) did you ever confront your husband about the radiation as a possible cause for the cancer ? -- My father worked in Radar units and during that time my sister was born with a heart defect, and my father said he thinks it has to do with radiation from radar, but that would affect the sperm not the baby. I am not sure he made sense at all, but it was his "hunch".

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by **LilyPatToo** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:17 pm

havanagilla asked, <blockquote>Quote:<hr>WHen was that if I may ask ? cause there are reports on radiation in the clinton task force etc. did you look it up ? and where did your husband work ? (was he the one with you in holland in the early 80's as well ?)<hr></blockquote> No, my ex and I were married from 1967 to 1974, when we separated for the last time and we divorced the following year. He worked at an atomic laboratory (Bettis, in West Mifflin, PA) that the US government leased from Westinghouse. He had a high security clearance. My son was born on New Year's Eve in 1969. I later learned that his father instructed the OB/GYN to induce labor on that day, which is very odd, since we were separated at the time and he supposedly had no input on the birth. We were long divorced in 1982 when my son died and I moved to Holland, totally unaware that the guy who talked me into it was Dutch Mafia-connected. He was arrested as we stepped off the plane at Schipol. I'd fled the US Mafia (a brutal "connected" owner from 1976-1982) and delivered myself directly into the arms of the Netherlands branch of the Mob.....out of the frying pan, into the fire--The Story Of My Life. When I saw a news story on radiation as the cause of the rare cancer that killed my son, I researched it and it takes maternal exposure. When I learned of the hearings where the US mind control survivors testified, I assumed that I was exposed during the approx. 8 years that I was married to The Sociopath. According to mind control researchers, black budget MC programs are often run out of government-leased private labs like Bettis (or Lawrence Livermore Labs, where my current handler works, also as a nuclear expert) since money can be skimmed off of Star Wars-type honeypot programs without the GAO noticing. LilyPat Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=lilypattoo>LilyPatToo</A> at: 7/31/06 6:48 pm

by **4911** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:50 pm

"And if it's just ordinary synchronicity, then why does it just occur with mind control-related key words?" On the one hand, you subconsciously might be making it appear so. On the other hand, you might be absolutely right. Where can I find a list of mind control-related key words?

by **LilyPatToo** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:04 pm

Well, if you're up to it, you could dig into Fritz Springmeier's giant book on programming Monarch slaves, which is here -- <a href="http://whale.to/b/sp/spra.html">whale.to/b/sp/spra.html</a> I can only get through a small part before I simply cannot look at the screen anymore. But he and Cisco Wheeler, a former programmer and daughter of a head MKULTRA programmer, have listed an enormous number of program keywords. I have friends who look up reference material for me and, 9 times out of 10, the links they give me are to Springmeier's writing. (And maybe it's a Good Thing that I can't read him, because then when something I've just remembered turns up there, no one can say I'm unconsciously repeating what I've read.) If you're unwilling to end up with eyes that look like they're burned into an old sheet, here's an infinitely shorter article that has a few key words in it -- <a href="http://www.aches-mc.org/monarch.html">www.aches-mc.org/monarch.html</a> LilyPat

by **Dreams End** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:16 pm

careful with Fritzy...sketchy background and has that odd habit that these rescuers seem to have of sleeping with their charges...even when a devout Christian and married. We have a thread about him somewhere. I though that some of his stuff sounded pretty authentic but when he goes off into his "bloodlines of the Illuminati" stuff...right out of John Birch. The other frustration I have with him, besides the obvious ones that that thread will reveal if you go find it, is that his stuff on Oz programming is terrible. I was hoping to read how it works and what the various codes actually do. Instead, I got a lot of speculation about how Aunti Em = Madame Blavatsky... It's possible. Baum, I confirmed, was a Rosicrucian. But then again, I also heard it was a political allegory about abandoning the Gold Standard. Others know, Lily, that my wife has a reall affinity for Oz books...well her younger parts do, and they were handed down from her mom. And, one young part shared a secret with me that she wasn't to tell anyone that she goes to Oz---always to the same place and always to talk with the Cowardly Lion. She loves so many characters that I couldn't see why just that one. But the Springmeier stuff didn't help me sort that out as I had hoped and researching him made me VERY wary that he's mixing in a lot of incorrect stuff in there. I wasn't looking to attack his politics, but trying to see if he was reliable and I was not impressed. YMMV, but be careful. That said, if Cisco was a victim, however dubious her rescuer and lover may be, then if it is coming from her, then some of her uncontaminated memories may be in there. But another thing that bugs me is...where does Fritz get this stuff? Is it all Cisco? Are there other reports? If so, obviously he won't identify who is saying it, but a word or two about the source of info would help. I will relook at this book...it's been about a year I think and I'll see if anything rings a bell with all we've been through during that time.

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