harrassing emails, daily into my box

[LilyPatToo]

Since you mentioned a name, I have one for you--"Avi". Is that a common Israeli name or nickname? Back when my Beta alter (Lily) came forward, in 2004, before I was accessed that Fall and she was locked away again, she showed images of a man, an Israeli she called "Avi", who she believed was her protector--like a bodyguard. <br><br>Since then I've been trying to figure out whether or not he's real. He could be another alter, but I have a feeling I've answered my front door and he was standing there--a real man. But it's just a flash of memory and I don't trust it. I've known Jews named Ari, but never Avi. And the survivor who found me had had a handler with a similar name, so I've been meaning to ask you if it's an Israeli name. If he's real and Lily's correct, he's possibly Mossad or senior military. He's around 50, with graying dark curly hair. Not tall, but a bit above average height, slim, muscular. Smokes a lot.<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>

[havanagilla]

avi is about as common as john or bill...here, so...and also in the US, there are so many avi's (former israelis). its a short version of Abraham. no, don't know this avi, but I am sure the security community of the USA has many former israelis in computer sciences and other positions. if he is your bodyguard than tell him that I am just hallucinating..don't <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>want to get into trouble with your Avi..</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=havanagilla>havanagilla</A> at: 8/4/06 6:20 pm<br></i>

[4911]

Hi Hava, I dont really know exactly what your situation is, so you have me at a disadvantage. Whatever it may be, you seem to be free enough to write. Maybe itd help to write all the shit down that bothers you, get it out, lube the machine. At the very least your experience will help others. I dont necessarily mean here, why not put it in a book? <br><br>edit. Um yeah Im native english speaking, but kinda grew up learning 4 languages so my english can get pretty weird. :] <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=4911>4911</A> at: 8/4/06 7:36 pm<br></i>

[LilyPatToo]

OMG. I guess I was hoping you'd say, "Nope, not an Israeli name, you must be hallucinating" *LOL* The impression I get from Lily is that he's totally harmless, but you wouldn't believe the evil US politicians she also thinks are "harmless"--! NOT a great judge of character, our Lily. Amazing that it's a common name--I don't think I know a single one. He may also be from the past, since she's not been out much (in an operative sense) for a long time. But there's that flash of memory of seeing him at my front door...and we've only lived here about a dozen years or so.<br><br>4911, many MC survivors seem to be free to post online and even to write books these days. I'm not sure whether the program heads just assume that no one will believe us, or not. But since almost no one does, it makes sense, I guess. I've only had direct retaliation a couple of times since I found out and began to write about it online, in almost 2 years. So I keep my mouth shut about those particular things/people and I'm left alone, except for some "street theater" now and then.<br><br>Sue Ford wrote a 300 page book and named names and she's alive. No one believed her...it's as simple as that, I sometimes think.<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>

[4911]

Hi LillyPat<br><br>I think usually the procedure goes that theyll just write you off as a nut. Terminating the person might make waves that they cant use, especially if that person has exposed information that could raise eyebrows were he/she suddenly to turn up dead. If its easier to write people off as nuts, theyll take that route. Its rather nasty, but it makes sense. <p></p><i></i>

[LilyPatToo]

And it's SOOOOOO easy to write me off as a nut, too. I stupidly 'came out' as an alien abductee a dozen years ago<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> (Hey, it was the ONLY explanation for all my 'missing time' that I'd ever been given!) So, like so many other US mind control program survivors, I fell for the alien abduction explanation and am, as a direct result, widely regarded as an idiot, if not an outright loon<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>But I'm NOT a nut by any means and now that I've been clued in to the existence of government mind control programs, I've spent the past 2 years learning about them. But when I post about what I've learned, it's generally assumed that if I were for real, I'd be Dead Real Fast.<br><br>Not so. I think that havanagilla and I may be part of a huge data collection project---set us loose (more or less), let us yak it up about what we can remember, and then watch the response.<br><br>It's nice to feel useful<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>

[4911]

hey, I didnt say you were a nut. Pls dont misunderstand. Remember, just cuz someone calls an apple an orange doesnt make it a peanut. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=4911>4911</A> at: 8/6/06 4:11 am<br></i>

[LilyPatToo]

No, I didn't mean that you, 4911, in particular, thought I was nuts....but when society in general hears the words "alien abductee", then the eyes begin to roll and the snickers start. But when you have missing time, inexplicable bruises, confused memories of alien creatures messing with you and (usually) a UFO sighting or three, then what are you supposed to call yourself?<br><br>It's *a logical deduction* right up to the moment when you learn about government mind control programs. And even then you're told they're long over, so if you still believe you're being taken now, then you must be crazy. And which would you rather believe yourself to be--crazy or an alien abductee?<br><br>I still hang out on a whole board full of folks who believe that that's what they are. And some of them may be--I do not rule out the existence of aliens--but I suspect that the majority have been conditioned to believe that little gray men took them, when in fact their abductors worked for "alphabet agencies" and were proficient in hypnosis and the administering of powerful drugs.<br><br>And once you come to believe you're an alien abductee and tell others that, you're written off in the credibility department. It really sucks.<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>

[dranek7]

What is it about? The subject is "canister..."<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>From: Kate Godfrey <@digitaldojo.com>        <br>To: @gmail.com<br>Date: Aug 7, 2006 11:33 PM<br>Subject: canister<br><br><br>He had bowed to me in a way which was not quite English. Promise youll come to us for some week-end. The compartment was blue with pipe-smoke. From the sound I knew they were pink-foot, for thewhite-fronts make a throatier noise. I wish I had taken it up sooner, for I wasted severalyears chasing my tail. We mustnt lose sight of each othernow we have foregathered. He simply wasnt running for the samestakes. Some day, I said, there will be a new British Dominion, and itwill be called Lombardy. Peter John likes the oldnames, which he gets out of Gervase Markhan. Or better still, come down to us for aweek-end. I do not shoot, but I love to watch the birds. The set of his jaw and the way hisnose sprang sharply from below his forehead were familiar. We tried another part of the mud-flats, hoping that theweather would clear. Bad luck we didntspot each other sooner, for I should have liked a yarn with you. The whole aviary in bandboxes used toaccompany him backwards and forwards in the car. The fatted calves had always the best of it. My eyes cleared, and a response clicked in mybrain. Clear it did for about half an hour, whenthere was a wonderful scarlet and opal sunset. I wish I had taken it up sooner, for I wasted severalyears chasing my tail. I say, Im sorry about your bad luck, Archie told him. I do not shoot, but I love to watch the birds. I say, Im sorry about your bad luck, Archie told him.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>

[LilyPatToo]

I don't understand, dranek--where did that email come from? Is it fiction or is it perhaps a difficult-to-understand message from a MC survivor?? I'd have to have some idea of where it came from to figure out what's going on....?<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>

[dranek7]

LilyPatoo,<br><br>It came from someone calling themselves "Kate Godfrey." This was not the only strange message that I've gotten. Attached to each one of these messages is a small image file, and the files are virus-free. The other messages come from other names and have other single-worded subjects. I have deleted the ones which were there today, and I'm sure I'll have more in another day or two to share. By the way, these are the only type of spam that I have been receiving...and they've only been showing up at GMail. I have a yahoo account filled with the standard spam fare. <p></p><i></i>

[Avalon]

I've occasionally gotten spam of that sort. Weirdly lyrical, but seemingly quite mad.<br><br>I suspect that the content is produced by a fairly sophisticated text generator, and is meant only to grab attention while getting you to do something with it -- perhaps clicking a link, or maybe there is some way that having it in your email files could be harmful? <p></p><i></i>

[LilyPatToo]

Huh. That's odd. I get several sorts of what I call "word salad", where unusual words are printed out, one after the other, but never a coherent story like that.<br><br>And then there are the collections of seemingly random sayings. Here's one that was at the end of a piece of really awful porn spam about pedophilia:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>To each his own.<br>We do not always gain by changing.<br>Where there's a will there's a way.<br>A fool and his money are soon parted.A fool in a gown is none the wiser.<br>A wise man doesn't need advice, and a fool won't take it.<br>Advice when most needed is least heeded./FONT><br>Always in a hurry, always behind.<br>Cheap is dear in the long run.<br>Cut off one's nose to spit one's face.<br> <br> <br>to be taken off<br>Empty vessels make the most noise.<br>Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.<br>Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.<br>If the cap fits, wear it.<br>In one ear and out the other.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Most of the porn spam I get is pedophile stuff, which, to anyone who's survived a trauma-based MC program, is terribly upsetting. The first one that I got arrived the day after my first porn spam ever--the one I described earlier in this thread (the same practice that Lily believes she's had with one of the politicians named by Cathy O'Brien, but a different sexual practice). So it seems likely to me that the same person who sent me that very targetted one also put my email addy on a bunch of kiddie porn lists, knowing that that would upset me far more than any other kind of porn.<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>

[orz]

I'm getting an increasing number with chunks of novel-like text chopped up a bit... most likely someone has downloaded a bunch of texts from project gutenberg, blackmask.com or other public domain e-text site and has a script to randomise them for spam...<br><br><br>The point of random junk in spam is to fool spam filters into believing it is a genuine email... however, it's less clear to me sometimes what the spam is even for.. many I get don't even have a virus, a link to get people to click (+ thus verify the adress is real and thus more valuable to spammers) or any attempt to sell anything. Possible it's just research and development into baffling spam filters? Or as i've half-jokingly suggested before, a government plot to stifle communication amonst the people by rendering email useless.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I suspect that the content is produced by a fairly sophisticated text generator,<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Not so sophisticated; most of these will be made by Markov Chaining, which allows fairly gramatically correct texts to be generated based on an existing text. THe software doesn't understand the rules of grammer etc, it merely calculates the probability of any word appearing next to another.<br><br>If anyone wants to experiment with random text generation of this sort (and others) a great application is <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.janusnode.com">www.janusnode.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> - freeware, mac and pc. It's amazing how much apparent sense randomised text can make, really funny/scary some times. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=orz@rigorousintuition>orz</A> at: 8/9/06 12:53 pm<br></i>

[LilyPatToo]

The ones that really make me scratch my head are the ones that have no message at all--just From, To and the date:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>From: god@frenchx2.com<br>Date: June 18, 2006 1:47:24 AM PDT<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Or this one:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>        From:         JoshGriffith@0733.com<br>        Subject:         PY<br>        Date:         July 12, 2006 1:03:01 PM PDT<br>        To:         <br>        Reply-To:         JoshGriffith@0733.com<br><br>has to pay for this, and somebody will! Just wait, just let me get to the<br> Yes, he would have made a good stalker. What the hell, do I feel sorry repeating. "Forward!" He could not hear a thing any more. Once he saw<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The message sounds like "text salad" and I'd have sent it to "Junk" immediately, except that the same day I received it, I'd been talking to other MC program survivors about *stalkers* we'd had....First time the subject had ever come up on that board (one for DID/MPD folks, not strictly a MC board) and the bit about '<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>has to pay for this, and somebody will!</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->' sounds an awful lot like a threat to me.<br><br>So you see that what might have been a non-event for anyone who wasn't a program survivor became a likely pointed message to me, saying, "We read those posts about stalkers that you made and you're going to pay for making them." <br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>