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Repost from DU: Posse Comitatus, Yesterdays' news...

Postby somebody » Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:18 pm

ohmygod..... we are toast. Cheney's the evil master mind behind all this. I'm way past pissed! Someone in power had better DO SOMETHING!<br><br>These articles are all about psychopaths. Interviews with Dr. Robert Hare. <br>And there is no cure for these monsters.<br>And it's both geneic and learned... sounds familiar i.e. Barbara Bush's comments! And of course Sr. whole life, and his father, and his father before him!!<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psychology/robert_hare/5.html?sect=19">www.crimelibrary.com/crim...ml?sect=19</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Conventional psychotherapy starts with the assumption that a patient wants to change, but psychopaths are usually perfectly happy as they are. They enroll in such programs to improve their chances of parole. "These guys learn the words but not the music," Hare says. "They can repeat all the psychiatric jargon -- 'I feel remorse,' they talk about the offence cycle -- but these are words, hollow words." <br><br>In Without Conscience, he writes, "They selfishly take what they want and do as they please, violating social norms and expectations without the slightest sense of guilt."<br><br> And this fits Bush to a tee:<br><br>Hare made another intriguing discovery by observing the hand gestures (called beats) people make while speaking. Research has shown that such gestures do more than add visual emphasis to our words (many people gesture while they're on the telephone, for example); it seems they actually help our brains find words. That's why the frequency of beats increases when someone is having trouble finding words, or is speaking a second language instead of his or her mother tongue. In a 1991 paper, Hare and his colleagues reported that psychopaths, especially when talking about things they should find emotional, such as their families, produce a higher frequency of beats than normal people. It's as if emotional language is a second language -- a foreign language, in effect -- to the psychopath."<br><br>They exhibit a cluster of distinctive personality traits, the most significant of which is an utter lack of conscience. They also have huge egos, short tempers, and an appetite for excitement -- a dangerous mix.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3525698">www.nzherald.co.nz/sectio...id=3525698</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/03/040311072248.htm">www.sciencedaily.com/rele...072248.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>a ton of links: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://theprogressivemind.info/psychopaths/2004/10/usc-study-finds-faulty-wiring-in.html">theprogressivemind.info/p...ng-in.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br> <br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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The Most frightening Quote....

Postby Byrne » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:36 am

Starman,<br><br>That is one of the most frightening quotes that I've come across. It sorta sums up the evildoing that goes on amongst corrupt elites...<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency William Colby recognised the existence of a network of bluebloods. When former Nebraska Senator and Vietnam War hero John W. DeCamp was looking into elites' involvement in child abuse, drug running, gun running, and satanic ritual-murder, Colby warned him of the hidden aristocracy and their power (DeCamp, pp. ix-x):<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"What you have to understand, John, is that sometimes there are forces and events too big, too powerful, with so much at stake for other people or institutions, that you cannot do anything about them, no matter how evil or wrong they are and no matter how dedicated or sincere you are or how much evidence you have. That is simply one of the hard facts of life you have to face. You have done your part. You have tried to expose the evil and wrongdoing. It has hurt you terribly. But it has not killed you up to this point. I am telling you, get out of this before it does.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Colby himself met his death on a midnight canoeing trip “accident”..... (see <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://mindprod.com/politics/asbestos.html" target="top">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> for a list of people who have met their death for attempting to expose evildoing & corruption amongst those in power)<br><br>What can we do? Contributing to this board & sharing sentiments with kindred folks on here gives me some solace, but the extent of iniquity by those in power can get so frickin overwhelming.........<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>(Lord Acton, a British historian of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries).</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Repost from DU: Posse Comitatus, Yesterdays' news...

Postby DrDebugDU » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:00 am

Somebody:<br><br>As far as Bush goes he does not fall in the category of highly intelligent psychopaths, however people like Cheney probably falls into the category you are talking about.<br><br>Highly intelligent psychopaths tend to become more dangerous when they have been 'treated'. They have no regrets about their actions and do not feel the need to change and will consider it useful information which will allow them to become even better.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>(...)<br><br>Many psychopaths will read psychology books, and become skilled at imitating other more "sympathetic" mental illnesses, such as schizophrenia. They will use any means possible to manipulate their evaluators. Do psychopaths ever legitimately hear voices in their heads? According to Meloy, "most functionally psychotic individuals do not experience command hallucinations, and those who do generally successfully resist them."<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/tick/psych_6.html?sect=19">www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/tick/psych_6.html?sect=19</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Some psychologists and psychiatrists even consider psychopaths untreatable<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>PSYCHOPATHY<br><br>This term is the subject of considerable debate. Society has gone back and forth in preference for the term sociopath, also. One of the things you'll see in the literature is the distinction between an antisocial and a psychopath. Basically, the way it goes is that treatment programs for antisocials are less than promising while treatment programs for psychopaths are futile. In other words, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>psychopaths are the "incurables" of psychological criminology</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. Not all of them are criminals. Criminals at least have a code of conduct. True psychopaths are beholden to nobody and nothing. They are rarely distinguishable from people in power, and they do a good job of "faking normality", in fact, some are quite charming and possess high intelligence.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/tick/psych_6.html?sect=19">www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/tick/psych_6.html?sect=19</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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What absolute power looks like

Postby antiaristo » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:01 am

Treason Felony Act (1848 ) <br><br>3. Offences herein mentioned declared to be felonies<br>...If any person whatsoever shall, within the United Kingdom or without, compass, imagine, invent, devise or to deprive or depose our Most Gracious Lady the Queen, ...from the style, honour, or royal name of the imperial crown of the United Kingdom, or of any other of her Majesty's dominions and countries, or to levy war against her Majesty, ...within any part of the United Kingdom, in order by force or constraint to compel her... to change her... measures of counsels, or in order to put any force or constraint upon her or in order to intimidate or overawe both Houses or either House of Parliament, or to move or stir any foreigner or stranger with force to invade the United Kingdom or any other of her Majesty's dominions or countries under the obeisance of her Majesty... and such compassings, imaginations, inventions, devices, or intentions, or any of them, shall express, utter, or declare, by publishing any printing or writing, ...or by any overt act or deed, every person so offending shall be guilty of felony, and being convicted thereof shall be liable, ...to be transported beyond the seas for the term of his or her natural life. <br><br>Whole story here<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm11.showMessage?topicID=137.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...=137.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=antiaristo>antiaristo</A> at: 9/15/05 9:10 am<br></i>
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Psychopaths

Postby antiaristo » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:09 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>They are rarely distinguishable from people in power, and they do a good job of "faking normality", in fact, some are quite charming and possess high intelligence.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Anthony Charles Lynton Blair <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Psychopaths

Postby antiaristo » Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:05 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> Comment <br><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="font-size:small;">Ignorance and abdication that amounts to madness</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <br><br>All political leaders sometimes parry with the truth, but with Bush the disconnections are systematic <br><br>John Berger<br>Thursday September 15, 2005<br>The Guardian <br><br><br>As a consequence of the catastrophe that occurred in New Orleans, people in the US and throughout the world have started to re-examine the record of the present leaders of the first world superpower. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>A shift in opinion has taken place almost overnight</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. History, throwing us all back into our seats, suddenly opened its throttle.<br>Katrina - everyone refers to the hurricane by her name as if she were some kind of avatar - revealed that there is dire and increasing poverty in the US, that black people are typically treated as unwanted second-class citizens, that the systematic cutting of government investment in public institutions has produced widespread social disequilibrium and destitution (40 million Americans live without any aid if they fall ill), that the so-called war against terrorism is creating administrative chaos, and that within and against all this, voices of protest are being raised loud and clear.<br><br>All this though was evident before Katrina to those living it, and to those who wanted to know. What she changed was that the media were there for once, showing what was actually happening, and the fury of those to whom it was happening. With her terrible gesture she wiped the opaque screens clean for a little while.<br>In some gnomic way the as-yet-innumerable dead on the Gulf coast spoke not for but with the 100,000 Iraqis who have died as a consequence of the ongoing disastrous and criminal war. Time and again in the US press, Katrina and Iraq are being mentioned together. Yet Katrina was regular. She belonged to the familiar weather conditions which affect the Gulf of Mexico. She was not hiding in Afghanistan. And merciless as she was, she did not belong to any axis of evil. She was simply a natural threat to American lives and property, and she was heading for Louisiana.<br><br>It was in the self-interest (as well as the national interest) of the president and his chosen colleagues to meet the challenge she threw down, to foresee the needs of her victims and to reduce the ensuing pain and panic to the minimum possible. If they, the government, happened to fail to do this, they would be able to blame nobody else, and they themselves would be blamed. A child could foresee this. And they failed utterly. Their failure was technical, political and emotional. "Stuff happens," murmurs Donald Rumsfeld.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Is it possible that this administration is mad?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Let us try to define the variant of madness, for it may be that it has never occurred before. It has very little to do, for example, with Nero when he fiddled while Rome burned. Any madness, however, implies a severe disconnection with reality, or, to put it more precisely, with the existent.<br><br>The variant we are considering touches upon the relationship between fear and confidence, between being threatened and being supreme. There is no negotiation between the two. Their "madness" operates like a switch which turns one off and the other on. And what is grave about this is that it is in the long periods of negotiating between fear and confidence that the existent is normally surveyed and observed in its multitudinous complexity. It is there that one learns about what one is facing.<br><br>Five days after Katrina had struck, when President Bush finally visited the devastated city, he astounded journalists by saying: "I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees." On the same day, in the wrecked small town of Biloxi, the president's flying visit was preceded by a team who quickly cleared the rubble and corpses from the route his cortege would take. Two hours later the team vanished, leaving everything else in the town exactly as it was.<br><br>The calculations of the present US government are closely related to the global interests of the corporations, and what has been termed the survival of the richest, who today also vacillate abruptly between fear and confidence.<br><br>The lobbyist Grover Norquist, who is a talking head for corporate interests and to whom Bush and co listened when planning their tax reforms for the benefit of the rich, is on record as saying: "I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."<br><br>All political leaders sometimes parry with the truth, but here the disconnections are systematic and crop up not only in their announcements but in their every strategic calculation. Hence their ineptness. Their operation in Afghanistan failed, their war in Iraq has been won (as the saying goes) by Iran, Katrina was allowed to produce the worst natural disaster in US history, and terrorist activities are increasing.<br><br>An ignorance about most of what exists, and an abdication from the very minimum of what can be expected of government - are we not approaching disconnections which amount to what can be called madness when found in the minds of those who believe they can rule the planet?<br><br></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1570243,00.html">www.guardian.co.uk/commen...43,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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