On Turning Forty while reading the RI board

[slimmouse]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I found my fortieth birthday to be an empowering one. It was as if all that came before was just practice, and the real work, and use of my talents and skills, was just beginning in earnest.<br><br>May you find the strength, wisdom, and grace that you need as you face the many challenges at this time in your life.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Its the age old saying isnt it that life begins at 40 ?<br><br> May the force of good be with you , DE. <p></p><i></i>

[steve vegas]

You mention the Finders may have moved to Taiwan, can you cite a reference for that? Thanks. <p></p><i></i>

[albion]

Great post DE, and happy birthday. The recent decline of the board has been difficult to watch, but it's intelligent commentary like yours that keeps me coming back to wade through the howling madness. I wish I had more knowledge to share, and ability to help out, but I'm just fumbling in the dark like everyone else. <p></p><i></i>

[biaothanatoi]

GC, whoever you are, that was a revolting post. May something large - possibly a fridge or some sort of cow - fall from the sky and hit you.<br><br>DE, we have a lot in common, and I wish you all the best of lucky. Happy birthday! Don't worry about the haters, and don't stray too far from this board.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>B <p></p><i></i>

[Floyd Smoots]

WAH!!!!!!!!! I just wish I were forty again, but not at the expense of the living hell you are experiencing, D.E. So, a belated Happy Birthday anyway you can have one! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>

[slimmouse]

<br><br> With the greatest respect Bio.<br><br> I have these days, developed an increasing sympathy for this whole idea of SRA - courtesy of Jeff, and David Icke.<br><br> I am convinced that this kind of thing goes on.<br> <br> But to be fair to GC. <br><br> Why do some kind of strange turn from what should be the overriding priority ( your kin ), to a denigration of those who dont share DEs freinds' views on CD, and any other number of issues ?<br><br> All the understandably traumatic experiences aside , what are your thoughts on the CD theory ?<br><br> In fact, do you even have the time to think about such stuff ? Not to mention Dugin and all the rest of that stuff.<br><br> Whilst all the time ignoring the enemy in plain view.<br><br> Love and light to you both. <p></p><i></i>

[shawshank erection]

"One is that the person Svali claims to have the whole historical conspiracy figured out."<br><br>sounds like some folks around here. <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It would seem to me that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>if in fact your wife exists</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, then you and she are probably not good for each other, each <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>feeding off the other's issues</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->....must be hell on a day to day basis.....<br><br><br><br>....Mental illness is a terrible scourge...<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>and the only thing worse is is two mentally ill people who form a relationship </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->and double their suffering.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Careful, greencrow0, your statement is either disingenuous or a less-than-subtle attempt to insult. Myself, I find personal attacks are usually the last resort when one's logical arguments are weak. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

Thanks for the comments and b-day wishes. Here's the punchline...I am, or at least was, very open to the CD theory. That's the whole point. Qutb is my favorite poster and we DON'T agree on that. Imagine that.<br><br>I don't claim to know CD is true...just that I could see the possibility...but that's for another thread. The real point is that Qutb shows us how to debate..answering attacks with facts...and some grace. And those who attacked him so personally....guess what? YOU are the ones who made me rethink CD. Not Qutb. Could the logic be so thin that you need to resort to attacks? To cries of "It's obvious and if you don't see it you are stupid or an agent?" I'm still open to the idea but given the tenor, it started smelling more like disinfo to me. So you might wanna rethink that approach, unless convincing others isn't really of concern.<br><br>As for Finders in Taiwan...just a cryptic hint found on a link from Kathleen Sullivan's page. Maybe head to data dump thread on the Finders to start. I presented the (admittedly scanty) evidence there, I think...PM me if you it's not all there. I can't remember. I tracked a couple of them to an English language Asian magazine and a reporter who set out to expose them ended up in Asia as well, with the rumor being he joined them. Quite the looking glass world when it comes to them. <br><br>And PW, I do appreciate you...it's a tough area to work in. But I wanted people to have some understanding why some of this is personal to me. <br><br>Cheers....<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[havanagilla]

On the contrary, i was encouraged to read DE and BIO, to find out there are non victim males who are not turned off by the victimization of their partners. I think these are unusually evolved individuals who can be in touch with the real person and not their circumstances. <br>What DE is describing, could actually mean that his wife feels secure, and loved sufficiently to begin the process of awakening. This is the opposite of "co dependence" (which GC suggested). It is a relationship of mutual soul work. <br>--<br>Awakening, for a DID (possibly SRA victims) can be very stormy and challenging.<br>I remember a stage when I first felt enough "holding" to break down and start touching the inner space. BUt regretfully, both my partner and I were not strong enough to contain it, actually, it was mostly I who ran away eventually from the sanity and back into the hands of my abuser ex. But I do recall the first period of intimacy, perhaps a year or two, when we moved in, that things were very hard, i recreated a lot of stuff from childhood as well.<br><br>good luck then.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[biaothanatoi]

Thanks, H. And I think your assessment of DE's situation is spot on - survivors start disclosing, they start healing (and often this means "breaking down") when they are in environments where they feel it is safe to do so. It means that they have identified a "benevolent object" in their landscape that they can attach to, and restart the developmental processes that have been derailed. <br><br>We spent so much time together that I was often worried that my friend and I were 'co-dependant' and a few (un)professionals accused us of being so when they encountered us during crisis times. However, I think they were wrong. Empathising with and caring for someone who is in great need, someone who has no emotional/psychological resources left to care for themselves, requires a relaxation of the boundaries between two people. It's a partnership where you work jointly together towards a mutual goal that benefits you both - somebody else's wellbeing. <p></p><i></i>

[havanagilla]

that's what I meant, Bio. Wish you the best.<br><br>one caveat is another friend i know who is himself a victim of MC (IMHO), and is in deep denial and used to reverse the role, and become a "rescuer" (thus actually expecting a rescue for himself, a lot of victims to that occasionally). But I don't suspect you are there or DE. Because this guy does not read about those things and is in total oblivion as to his own childhood, and is on drugs all the time. that's co dependent, namely, projecting one's needs, blindly, on another person. <br>But this is very different from what I see here, and frankly, it makes me very sad to remember my only good relationship and how it ended.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[antiaristo]

Dreams End,<br>You name me here, as well as in your posts on the "Illuminati" thread. So I guess I'm duty bound to respond.<br><br>I have little faith in your veracity because you tried to entrap me before I knew who you were. And you won't explain yourself to me.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm35.showMessage?topicID=39.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...D=39.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>New Kid is stranger than just "fast eyeballs".<br>He came at a post of mine with pure sarcasm. <br>A quotation, then his bite, inside two minutes.<br><br>When queried about his understanding he made some flippant remark but had to admit he did not understand what I had posted.<br><br>People that try to wreck without knowing what they are wrecking have nothing positive to contribute, and are not welcome on my threads.<br><br>Is there some familiar connection? Brother, or sister, or something closer? You are very protective. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

Nothing I need to explain, anti. You have it all figured out. I'm a Zionist freemason Talmud merchant. You even said you "knew" who I was in your very last post. If you'd spell it out overtly you could help Jeff out immensely as it would, once again, violate the posting guidelines and we could get you banned so you could spend your extra time getting the mental health assistance you clearly need. I'm serious. I've read every one of your affidavits (and despite my own "fast eyeballs" that took awhile.) While I've no doubt that the Anglia story is true, and I've said so before, your delusions about your own role in world affairs or how these letters are ACTUALLY being treated by their recipients....well, it's almost cliche, really, I hate to say it. Public officials get these sorts of letters all the time, anti, and they have a special file for them. Over and over, people have said to you "I have no idea what you are talking about" and you take this not as a sign of your own lack of clarity but as more collusion against you.<br><br>What's more, I asked you very early on to summarize succinctly what all that was about and you said you could not because of ongoing litigation or some such. Others have asked you to, and you won't do it. I say it's because you can't. Your case, in your own mind, has gotten so mixed up with all the affairs of all of Britain you don't know where you begin and the Queen ends. Typos are evidence of "forgery." A simple form letter response promising to pass your letter onto someone else is interpreted as secretly acknowledging the veracity of your case.<br><br>You are clearly a man of high intelligence, but certain mental illnesses get the pattern recognition features of our brain kicked into overdrive. My wife, when delusional for example, will see faces within simple patterns on the wall. <br><br>Now, is there any chance that what I've just said will be seen by you as anything other than more attempts by a zionist Talmud merchant to discredit you? No, probably not. But it needed to be said. I've actually written Jeff before in the context of someone else pestering me about whether I was Jewish (and asking that poster to be banned...the only time I've ever requested such) and said I did NOT think you should be banned because I thought you were mentally ill. But these constant attacks on everyone who disagree with you as being part of the Freemason conspiracy because they fail to understand or respond to the substance of a case you refuse to make plain is surely a sign of paranoid delusions. I don't mean as in "I don't respect your reasoning ability", I mean as you should please, anti, go see a mental health professional. <br><br>I can only wonder sadly at what new visitors to this board must think about these bizarre attacks. <br><br>And Jeff, I think your decision about Thumper, given the recent discussion you had begun about responsible posting was the wrong one. I'm sorry, but I do. If you'll remember, I actually had discovered that Thumper was, in fact, admitting openly to mental health issues in another forum (using the same user name and being very open about it...which is, by the way, the correct way to be about mental illness). So I wondered aloud whether, despite his BNP postings if banning him was right.<br><br>But I'd say letting him back on right now sent exactly the wrong message. And the other thing I'll say is what is more tiring than overt propaganda is the insinuations and the "almost" statements. Above, anti talks about a time before he "knew who I was". Can I prove he meant to say that I'm secretly a Freemason agent as opposed to just an unpleasant fellow? I cannot. <br><br>And thumper will play similar games, no doubt, with his inferences about who the Illuminati really are. And on and on it will go.<br><br>I think it's a perfectly valid choice, I suppose anyway, to simply say, "I don't have time to deal with this board so I'm sorry if a bunch of cryptofascists take it over but hopefully regular posters can get it sorted out." Unfortunately, that's not what you did say. You promised at one time to be actually lowering your tolerance of such material, including postings of folks like Makow. And yet you've done just the opposite. And when I saw Thumper let back on...well, I'm sorry, Jeff, but it was a clear sign that you weren't serious about any of that (I think it was in the post "what's welcome here and what's not" but I don't know where that is now).<br><br>It's your board, and you have the right to take the stance that I mentioned...a sort of libertarian, marketplace of ideas stance...especially as it's draining too much energy to try to moderate. Just put a sticky up saying, "Hey, lots of people come here and I don't have time to moderate this board. So, nothing stated here is necessarily my point of view. Furthermore, while I frown on personal attacks and calling others agents and asking whether or not they are Jewish, I'm afraid these sorts of things will continue to happen and I hope regular posters will call other posters out who do such things."<br><br>But unfortunately, what you posted before was that you were not going to tolerate such fascist material or the insinuation by posters that other people were agents for bad guys. So when this stuff is allowed to continue, AND when you allow Thumper to repost, there's a sort of implied consent to this material. And this doesn't make you look good, Jeff. I think a sticky as I mentioned might be one way to deal with it...but I have to say when I saw Thumper return, especially at the TIME he returned...and not even a comment from you...despite my (not very subtle, I admit) continued bumping of his thread (I was friendly, at least) well, it was bad timing to say the least. <br><br>Oh, and those of you who are new Thumpy fans...take some time and do some searches, if you think I'm being unfair to him. It's really not about him personally...it's about the message that sent. To be honest, it was kinda like a slap in the face. Sure it wasn't meant that way, but that's what it felt like.<br><br>I'm sorry if the board is draining your energy. You'll need to assess how it fits into what you are trying to do perhaps. But for now, Jeff...this board is YOUR board. It has the same name as your blog. It is associated with you. So I'd suggest some direct action, one way or the other.<br><br>Good luck. <p></p><i></i>

[antiaristo]

Mr evasion strikes a heartfelt plea. <p></p><i></i>