PR org scrubs link 12 hrs after flagged in 'Dolphin Disinfo'

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:14 pm

Damn, I think the military is reading and adapting to this thread I started about online disinfo tactics against the internet and environmentalists. <a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessage?topicID=3322.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...3322.topic</a> In less than 12 hours since I posted about it to show the Pentagon's disinformation campaigns and very deceptive reaction to it by the Public Relations Society Association, the PRSA website HAS REMOVED the link to "Challenges That U.S.-Based Multinationals Face Due to Anti-Globalization and Anti-U.S. Sentiment Teleseminar" It was at the bottom of the links on the right hand side of the page although the link wouldn't open. <a href="http://www.prsa.org/_News/press/pr021605.asp">www.prsa.org/_News/press/pr021605.asp</a> Now the link doesn't show to me. (Possible part of a larger internet squelching, today we all got error messages coming here, too.) Of course, if they are editing as they monitor this thread about their disinfo tactics they might flip the scrubbed link back on to sow more confusion. The disinfo website I tried to dissect, EcoEnquirer.com, even put an excerpt of my pissed-off post on their website in a joke fanmail section. Now another site I mentioned in the thread has scrubbed info. Funny that they would sample and link to it on their own website and info would be scrubbed. Now who would do that I wonder? Professional deceivers? Um....yes.

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:36 pm

How about fewer UFOs and puppies threads on the front page for awhile? I know many who come this site want to help inform others on many topics but I'm appealing for a little more focus on methods of discernment, something I've been guilty of lacking myself. (Can you say 'projection'? lol.) Dreams End put up a great thread on Rules for Investigation or something like that a while ago.

by **orz** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:51 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Of course, if they are editing as they monitor this thread about their disinfo tactics they might flip the scrubbed link back on to sow more confusion.<hr></blockquote> So let me get this straight... the fact that a page is currently offline proves your unfounded idea that a weak half-baked Onion ripoff comedy site is actually govenment disinfo and that They are monitoring this board, but if turns out NOT to have been removed after all, that also proves it!? <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"> I dread to think what your reaction will be when this kind of logic inevitably gets us featured on <a href="http://www.somethingawful.com/weekendweb/">The Weekend Web</a> at somethingawful.com <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tired.gif ALT="|I">

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:54 am

PRSA changed the name of the link to now omit "and anti-U.S. sentiment." So they took a little while to clean up. Must have realized their gaff admitting that "anti-US sentiment" goes along with "anti-globalization sentiment." But it now opens to a pdf registeration form with the ORIGINAL TITLE which used to be on the 'newsletter' about the Pentagon with the bizarre bald-faced lie (their capitals)- <blockquote>Quote:<hr>PRSA ENCOURAGES MILITARY TO STRENGTHEN EXISTING 'FIREWALL' BETWEEN PUBLIC RELATIONS AND TACTICAL INFORMATION MANAGEMENT, DECEPTION AND DISINFORMATION<hr></blockquote> Bwaaahahahaha! "existing firewall" They really think we are fucking stupid. My mistake was assuming this was military/intel when it might just be corporate. They overlap and discrediting on the internet by one helps the other. See definition of 'fascism.' (orz: Either read again or I'll come back to help you get it straight. I think you missed that the dolphin article as text only is straight when not seen at the source, a common way to post it as it was here. -No other articles are 99% straight; they are either Straight title/Onion text or Onion title/Onion text. -And since nothing in the article was funny, the two names could easily be overlooked. -A REAL name of a Pentagon budget whistleblower today is Bunnatine Greenhouse. I'm not kidding. Look it up. -A Council on Foreign Relations memeber who is published in the LATimes pushing US empire is REALLY named Max Boot, real life sounding like a gag. -So the names in the dolphin article are easily overlooked just as they were at this board and the dolphin article's singular characteristics show it is the tip of the disinfo spear. I found it at other sites when I searched for it but not the other crappy articles that mock environmentalist concern and science. By disinfo, I don't mean you'd believe the OTHER articles, just the dolphin one which you might post and then have others notice the obvious crap at the source and disbelieve ALL environmental stories for having been duped once. Insulation Through Blanket Skepticism. I have friends who say "eh, it's all crap so I ignore it." Exactly what PTB want. Ask yourself, what kind of a 'humor' site >satirizes environementalist concern over ecodisaster? >adds reactions to their crap on their site complete with a link to go harass the environmentally concerned? Do you know anything about corporate cut-out websites like this one below which has been spinning against global warming since 1997? Note that they pre-emptively got the domain name to deny global warming. And promote corporate capitalism as a solution to everything society needs. <a href="http://www.globalwarming.org/about.htm">www.globalwarming.org/about.htm</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>About GlobalWarming.org This web site is a project of the Cooler Heads Coalition, a sub-group of the National Consumer Coalition. The Cooler Heads Coalition formed May 6, 1997 to dispel the myths of global warming by exposing flawed economic, scientific, and risk analysis. Coalition members will also follow the progress of the international Global Climate Change Treaty negotiations. The National Consumer Coalition was formed by Consumer Alert in late 1996 as an on-going coalition of market-oriented national and state-level policy and activist groups, which focus on consumer issues in the policy arena. The members of the National Consumer Coalition (NCC) do hereby endorse the following principles for a society of free and responsible consumers: * A market economy benefits consumers by expanding consumer choice and competition and fostering innovation, which lowers costs and improves consumer health and safety. * Individual consumers have different values and varying needs in the marketplace and shop for goods and services based on those, such as quality level, price, service, and convenience. * Informed consumers are better off making their own decisions in the marketplace and holding responsibility for those decisions. * Consumers exert clout in the marketplace by their decisions to buy or not to buy and to choose where to spend their money. * Government policies that restrict consumer choice and stifle competition harm consumers by substituting policymakers’ values for individual values and raising the costs of goods and services to consumers. <hr></blockquote> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 3/8/06 3:05 am

by **Tim Drage** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:25 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>The scientists, who perform their work aboard the research ship "Gaia's Revenge"<hr></blockquote> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tired.gif ALT="|I"> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>"We were performing our usual tasks -- photographing and communing with the pod -- when someone yelled, 'Oh my God! They are travelling directly northward!'.<hr></blockquote> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tired.gif ALT="|I"> But yeah, it's definitely the least overtly comedic article on the site... But so what? The fact that it is less easy to tell it's satire out of context means nothing... It's satire IN context, and they have no control of where people might copy and paste the text to. ANd they obviously, like most 'humour' sites of this sort, get a kick out of people falling for it + sending them angry emails. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Ask yourself, what kind of a 'humor' site >satirizes environementalist concern over ecodisaster? >adds reactions to their crap on their site complete with a link to go harass the environmentally concerned?<hr></blockquote> Uh, one written by some cynical person who works in weather/environmental/energy/science stuff in some way and has a dark sense of humour, would be my best guess. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=timdrage>Tim Drage</A> at: 3/8/06 10:22 am

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:05 pm

Good points, TD. Agent provocateur tactics work , a learning experience and the price of handling snakes. They do bite. But this flag experience caused me to find many corporate cut-out websites and groups that are designed to deny or diffuse environmentalist concerns. And they have shown themselves and revealed tactics to someone who puts energy into exposing their crap and thus incurred more resistance than they bargained for despite their petty 'trophy' on their 'fan mail' page. Going back to the 'name' thing. This article about a whistleblower on KBR contracts in the Pentagon named Bunnatine Greenhouse suggests to me that this woman was given the job with the idea that she could easily be worked around like General Janice Karpinski at Abu Ghraib. <a href="http://www.whistleblowers.org/html/bunny_greenhouse.htm">www.whistleblowers.org/ht...nhouse.htm</a> Her being named Bunny Greenhouse was probably seen as icing on the cake, as in, "who would believe anything they read about Bunny Greenhouse?" For a Christian Science Monitor straight-faced article that SHOULD be merely dark humor, read this one that just came out when a judge ruled the names of Gitmo prisoners must be released- <a href="http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/pri/news.newsmain?action=article&ARTICLE_ID=887277">www.publicbroadcasting.ne..._ID=887277</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>He was caught with notebooks that contained drawings of rifles, a cleaver, a spatula, pliers, and a glove. ... This is not to say that the documents depict life at Guantanamo as a sort of Gilbert and Sullivan comic opera, "The Pirates of Gitmo. ... He disregards orders to stay dressed, and has stood naked in his cell. ... Al Ajmi has been constantly in trouble since being shipped to Guant namo, notes his file. ... "That was quite a story that you told us today," says one unnamed member of the US tribunal. <hr></blockquote> The propaganda is obvious to many yet fits right into the White House's version of the world for others. "That was quite a story that you told us today," says one unnamed member of the US tribunal. Self-parody is hard to beat.

PR org scrubs link 12 hrs after flagged in 'Dolphin Disinfo'

PR org scrubs link 12 hrs after flagged in 'Dolphin Disinfo'

Re: PR org scrubs link 12 hrs after flagged in 'Dolphin Disi

Re: PR org scrubs link 12 hrs after flagged in 'Dolphin Disi

Yup. The link is back but with a sanitized name.

Re: Yup. The link is back but with a sanitized name.

'Real' news is reading like satire more and more.

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