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Postby nomo » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:16 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The U.S. vs. John Lennon</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Trailer: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://trailersforthemasses.blogspot.com/2006/07/us-vs-john-lennon-2006-trailer.html">trailersforthemasses.blog...ailer.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Plot Outline: A documentary on the life of John Lennon, with a focus on the time in his life when he transformed from a musician into an antiwar activist. Opens in selected cities September 15.<br><br>And what to make of this, the official Website, designed to look exactly like the Drudge Report??? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.theusversusjohnlennon.com/">www.theusversusjohnlennon.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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!! CIA media is still burying Lennon. Look who's involved!

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:05 pm

This can only be a mixed-message limited hang-out treatment.<br><br>Even though there is a link to the story of the FBI file on Lennon there is the 2005 ABC article with these useful-for-discrediting Lennon comments from 1975-<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Entertainment/story?id=1372831&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312">abcnews.go.com/GMA/Entert...SFeeds0312</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>In the nearly seven-hour interview, Lennon also expressed his frustration with his mega-stardom.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"They're just sucking us to death," Lennon said of his fans. "About all we can do is do it like … circus animals. I resent being an artist in that respect. I resent performing for … idiots who won't know — who don't know — anything. 'Cause they can't feel — I'm the one that's feeling, 'cause I'm the one expressing what they are trying to. They live vicariously through me and other artists."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Wenner said the singer felt things deeply.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"John was a man of extreme passions," he said. "He would feel something, something and then change his mind.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> He was angry at the whole experience — the lies and the dishonesty. He was angry at the hypocrisy, the false fronts. It bled him dry."<br><br>Lennon also spoke of rivalries between the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.<br><br>"I think Mick [Jagger] got jealous," Lennon said. "I always was very respectful of Mick, of the Stones, but he said a lot of sort of tarty things about the Beatles, which I am hurt by, because I can knock the Beatles, but don't let Mick Jagger knock them. Because I just like to … list what we did and what the Stones did two months after, on every … album and every … thing we did, Mick does exactly the same. He imitates us."<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Despite all he had achieved by 1970, Lennon still harbored intense resentment toward those who never appreciated him as a child.<br><br>"People like me are aware of their genius (so-called) at 10, 8, 9," he told Wenner. "I had always thought why hadn't anyone discovered me? In school can't they see that I'm cleverer than anyone else in this school? That the teachers are stupid too?! I used to say to Auntie 'you throw my … poetry out and you'll be sorry when I'm famous.' I was different. I was always different. Why didn't anybody notice me? It comes out that people like me have to save themselves because you get … kicked and say to themselves look at me. I'm a genius …. What do I have to do to prove to you … who I am? And don't you dare criticize my work like that. You who don't know anything about it."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The people making this Lennon film are tight with the CIA media factories like Disney and all the TV networks generating lots of amusement piffle co-opting dead celebrities plus hopeful puffery announcing America's greatness.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.lslproductions.com/about.htm#david">www.lslproductions.com/about.htm#david</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>ARLENE WSZALEK - managing director<br><br>Wszalek's professional background encompasses the media, entertainment and technology industries in both the U.S. and the UK. Wszalek was a founding partner of SW14 Group LLC, a marketing and strategy consultancy serving clients including AOL Europe, barnesandnoble.com, BBC Online, DIC Entertainment, ICE Magazine, Luxury Living magazine, MTV Networks Europe, and Radical Communication (now part of Silverpop).<br><br>Previously, she was on the launch team for AOL UK, and served as Vice President, Marketing for DIC Entertainment. She began her career in the media department at Ogilvy & Mather, where she served as Assistant Media Director for clients including CBS Entertainment Division, Mattel Toys and American Express. <br><br>JONTHAN FLOM - executive in charge of production<br><br>Flom came to Broadway Video from Time-Warner, where he was part of the original team which created The Comedy Channel, leading to the highly publicized “comedy wars” and a high profile merger with Viacom’s Ha! (resulting in the creation of Comedy Central). He also handled business affairs, international distribution and music licensing for HBO’s and Cinemax’s New York originated programming. Before joining HBO, Mr. Flom was CBS Entertainment’s senior New York business affairs executive, responsible for negotiating and administering agreements and budgets for development, production and acquisition of programs including Kate and Allie, The Morning Program, CBS Happy New Year America, Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade and CBS Storybreak.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>Lennon had a huge FBI file from when Nixon and Hoover were eyeing his potential involvement in the anti-Vietnam War movement. Much of it was released by FOIA requests but still in heavily redacted form.<br><br>Lennon recoiled from the FBI's COINTELPRO harassment of bugging and following him around and instead retreated to homelife to raise his son for five years.<br><br>According to a whitewashing book I just saw on one of the infamous front tables at Borders called something like 'Famous Dead People,' Lennon spilled his guts daily on the phone to an LA disc jockey friend and the FBI would have heard him talking about coming out of retirement to 'get political' which was exactly where he was at when he was murdered by a Manchurian Candidate-type named Mark Chapman who's history of taking LSD and obsessing over Lennon was highlighted in the CIA press. Seems that Chapman sat down on the sidewalk after firing and started reading 'Catcher in the Rye.' Hmm.<br>(Previously described as very gun-shy, Chapman suddenly developed an interest in guns after a trip to Hawaii. Lots about his life to look into to see where he might have gotten the Sirhan Sirhan treatment.)<br><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>It's not a coincidence that the same 12/22/80 issue of Newsweek (which is owned by the Washington Post with all that implies) that announced Lennon's murder with quotes about 'this being the final nail in the coffin of the 1960s' and 'the biggest public reaction since the murder of JFK' was also the issue that introduced all of president-elect Ronald Reagan's new cabinet with upstanding Americans like William 'October Surprise' Casey as CIA director.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Just like the public murder of JFK, the message was clear: we are bouncing back from Vietnam, Nixon, and the Church Committee hearings and taking control so stand down, peaceniks. Here comes eugenics economics, US-run death squads south of the border, and CIA cocaine flooding America's cities.<br><br>Seems that 'entertainment' journalism is where the fictions around political assassinations are kneaded and baked into the American mind.<br><br>The 2/20/84 issue of the CIA rag called 'People Weekly' featured a cover story about the last days of Lennon and the release of his last album. The article mentions what a friend of Yoko's named Elliot Mintz allegedly called 'Project Walrus' involving a trusted assistant of Lennon's named Fred Seaman and his friend Bob Rosen stealing many Lennon artifacts including recordings and diaries since 1975 and then terrorizing Yoko for three years after Lennon's death while trying to discredit her by making drug purchases in her name. <br><br>Sounds like a COINTELPRO operation to me but 'People' describes it as a couple of cruel opportunistic jerks. <br>Yeah...right. <br><br>The same issue of 'People' gives tribute to recently-deceased 'journalist' Tommy Thompson written by 'Life' managing editor Richard B. Stolley who was an Operation Mockingbird media spook.<br><br>Amazingly, a picture from Dallas on 11/22/63 is included citing Thompson's 'scoop' of finding Lee Harvey Oswald's family before anyone else and keeping them holed up in a hotel room. And there's the photo to prove it. Here's Allan Grant's cover story for you-<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.allangrant.com/oswaldstory.htm">www.allangrant.com/oswaldstory.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Tommy, thanks to his Texas accent, got a street name from the deputy who had heard it mentioned by an FBI man who had appeared at the sheriff s station earlier in the day.<br><br>.....We located the street which fortunately was only a few blocks long. While we were casing the street a car pulled up and parked in front of one of the houses. We were convinced it was a reporter or a photographer from a local newspaper who knew more than we did. As we approached him, he opened the trunk of his car which contained several bags of groceries and proceeded to remove them. When he looked up he saw the cameras hanging from my neck, looked at Tommy and said, "Well, we wondered when the press would find us. You might as well come inside."<br><br>.....He introduced himself as Michael Paine and the woman at the door as Ruth Paine. We identified ourselves.<br><br>.....Tommy asked Ruth Paine if she knew Lee Harvey Oswald. "Yes", she said. "Lee is a friend and lives here with his wife and two children." When Tommy asked if she believed Lee Harvey Oswald could have shot the president, a distraught looking elderly woman in a nurses uniform with her stockings rolled down to her knees, sitting in a dark comer of the room, jumped up and said, "Don't you think I should answer that question ? I'm Lee's mother!" Tommy and I were astounded and moments later we got another shock.<br><br>.....A very pretty and very pale young woman appeared in the doorway with a small baby in her arms and headed towards the kitchen. It appeared that we had stumbled onto the alleged assassin's family while the rest of the press was waiting to get a glimpse of Lee Harvey Oswald in the corridor of the Dallas County Jail.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Hmm. Very interesting that this is thrown out in an 'entertainment' rag controlled by the CIA.<br><br>Here is a 1990s time-travel themed show called 'Quantum Leap' that has the hero going back into Lee Harvey Oswald's body.<br>But the kicker is that the show's writer claims to have a brush with Oswald from army days, too. My what a small world. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.scifi.com/quantum/episodes/season5.html">www.scifi.com/quantum/epi...ason5.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>SEASON 5<br><br>Lee Harvey Oswald<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Writer: Donald P. Bellisario</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>Director: James Whitmore Jr<br><br>5 October 1957 to 22 November 1963: <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>In a two-hour episode to commemorate the 30th anniversary of President John F. Kennedy's assassination, Sam leaps into Lee Harvey Oswald, taking on the accused killer's personality and volatile emotions while affecting key events in his life leading to JFK's death. <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline"><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The character of "Sgt. Bellisario" reflects series creator Bellisario's claimed real-life brush with Oswald in the military. </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END-->The prolific Willie Garson, who'd played the title character in the first-season Quantum Leap episode "Play It Again, Seymour," went on to reprise his Lee Harvey Oswald in the motion picture Ruby. Garson, also well-known for episodes of The X-Files, Sex and the City and other shows, essayed a major role in the SCI FI Pictures miniseries event Steven Spielberg Presents Taken).</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Lee Harvey Oswald / "Alik J. Hidell" - Willie Garson<br>Marina Oswald - Natasha Pavlova<br>Major Yuri Kosenko - Elya Baskin<br>Gushie - Dennis Wolfberg<br>Bar girl - Patty Toy<br>Lt. Obrigowitz - Ward C. Boland<br>Mariska - Donna Magnani<br>Sgt. Lopez - Reni Santoni<br>PFC Briggs - Philip McNiven<br>Corp. McBride - Michael Rich<br>Lt. Anna Guri - Erika Amato<br>Sgt. Bellisario - Matthew Charles Nelson<br>Jackie Kennedy - Karen Ingram<br>Frazier - Nathan Lisle<br>Ruth Paine - Becky London<br>Joda - Rodney Kageyama<br>Carlos - James Medina<br>New Orleans police officer - Chris Kinkade<br>Guard - Lazar Rockwood (as Laza<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->r) <br><br>Today we are in the middle of Vietnam II but more of us know about COINTELPRO, Operation CHAOS, and MK-ULTRA.<br><br>So the spook media factory is throwing massive amounts of haystack around those needles both to suppress dissent and continue discrediting the so-called 'counterculture' (anti-fascists) before next year's 40th anniversary of the 1967 Summer of Love.<br><br>They will keep trying to bury Lennon, Jimi, Janis, Jim, and others for years. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 7/13/06 1:48 pm<br></i>
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Re: !! CIA media is still burying Lennon. Look who's involve

Postby professorpan » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:10 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This can only be a mixed-message limited hang-out treatment.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Here we go again.<br><br>This is indeed a data "dump." Can't make heads or tails out of this mess, Hugh -- even the bolded statements seem haphazard and don't contribute an iota of information abou how or why the film is a "limited hang-out." <p></p><i></i>
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Here Today

Postby Pissed Off Cabbie » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:00 am

If John Lennon was here today, he'd tell you to ignore this movie, and stay focused on what's happening around us.<br><br>It IS limited hangout, in that it gives us something to chew on that is mostly irrelevant to the present. They want us to dwell on the past, and be less involved in the<br>here and now. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby orz » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:22 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>It's not a coincidence that the same 12/22/80 issue of Newsweek (which is owned by the Washington Post with all that implies) that announced Lennon's murder with quotes about 'this being the final nail in the coffin of the 1960s' and 'the biggest public reaction since the murder of JFK' was also the issue that introduced all of president-elect Ronald Reagan's new cabinet with upstanding Americans like William 'October Surprise' Casey as CIA director.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>It's not a coincidence that some things that happened around the same time were reported in the news around the same time! >:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>uh, what?<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>If John Lennon was here today, he'd tell you to ignore this movie, and stay focused on what's happening around us.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->Definitely... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Here Today

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:52 am

Pissed off Cabbie wrote-<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>They want us to dwell on the past, and be less involved in the<br>here and now.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Actually, they want to rewrite our past by knocking down inspiring social justice icons with mundane or discrediting details. Pulling down the statues of the people's heroes is the task of the CIA-controlled media.<br><br>That's why they keep reburying JFK, MLK, Lennon, even Eisenhower to purge the meaning out of his warning about the military-industrial complex. There's a State Department-friendly author named Kenneth E. Osgood who has a 2005 book out suggesting that the Cold War propaganda mechanisms were all the work of one mastermind, Eisenhower. Nonsense.<br><br>So tarnishing the glow on a social movement leader's halo is what this Lennon movie will be used for and the evidence of this is on the movie's website. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Prof Pan's comment

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:05 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This is indeed a data "dump."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Yup. I was asked my "take" on Lennon and I gave only some of it.<br><br>I didn't even mention the Beatles getting COINTELPRO-ed when they went to the Phillipines in 1966.<br><br>And I did lay out what makes this upcoming Lennon film a mixed message limited hang-out by<br>1) Showing the pro and con info at the website<br>2) Showing who is making the film.<br>3) Showing some other material about 'journalists' and the JFK murder in the same 1984 issue of People Magazine which describes a COINTELPRO campaign against John and Yoko as if it was merely a private looting compounded with cruelty and terror.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Nevermind Lennon

Postby HMKGrey » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:31 pm

I always thought George was the truly radical one. John was the one offered up to us as the rebel so I was never going to buy that. <br><br>George was always more his own person than John if you think about it. And I've heard plenty of people tell me what an absolute c*** John was at the best of times. <br><br>Besides, wrote wrote three of Beatles' five best songs!! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Dark horse, indeed. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nevermind Lennon

Postby greencrow0 » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:10 am

Lee Harvey Oswald - Osama bin Laden<br><br>Two patsies.<br><br>GC <p></p><i></i>
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