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CNN: Stone Ashamed of America

Postby HMKGrey » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:41 am

<br><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>SAN SEBASTIAN, Spain (AP)</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> -- Filmmaker Oliver Stone blasted President George W. Bush Thursday, saying he has "set America back 10 years."<br><br>Stone added that he is "ashamed for my country" over the war in Iraq and the U.S. policies in response to the attacks of September 11.<br><br>"We have destroyed the world in the name of security," Stone told journalists at the San Sebastian International Film Festival prior to a screening of his latest movie, "World Trade Center." The film tells the true story of the survival and rescue of two policemen who were trapped in the rubble of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, after they went to help people escape.<br><br>"From September 12 on, the incident (the attacks) was politicized and it has polarized the entire world," said Stone. "It is a shame because it is a waste of energy to see that the entire world five years later is still convulsed in the grip of 9/11.<br><br>"It's a waste of energy away from things that do matter which is poverty, death, disease, the planet itself and fixing things in our own homes rather than fighting wars with others. Mr. Bush has set America back 10 years, maybe more."<br><br>The director of blockbusters such as "Platoon," and "JFK" said the U.S. reaction to the attacks was out of proportion.<br><br>"If there had been a better sense of preparation, if we had a leadership that was more mature," he said. "We did not fight back in the same way that the British fought the IRA or the Spanish government fought the Basques here. Terrorism is a manageable action. It can be lived with," said Stone.<br><br>Stone rejected allegations that U.S. authorities may have known about the attacks in advance and said the real conspiracy came after.<br><br>"I think that conspiracy-mongering on 9/11 is a waste of time," he said. "The far greater conspiracy occurred after 9/11 when basically a neo-cabal inside our government hijacked policy and went to war. That was as broad a conspiracy as we can get and it was about 20, 30 people. That's all, they took over and all these books are coming out and they are pointing it out," said Stone.<br><br>"This war on Iraq is a disaster. I'm disgraced. I'm ashamed for my country," he said. "I'm also ashamed that America has attacked itself with its constitutional breakdowns. I'm deeply ashamed."<br><br>In the United States' favor, Stone posited that it's not responsible for all the world's problems.<br><br>"You can't see that the United States is responsible for all the evil in the world because you can see so many dictators and so many bestial acts all over the world now. .... There is something in the human heart, the international human heart, that is evil," said Stone.<br><br>"That's the evil that turns its mind and ears on humanity and is able to say 'I can kill a person in the name of God or religion.' This is not a human being, this a fanatic. And I fear that fanaticism is the result of our overreaction to 9/11," said Stone.<br><br><br>Yawn... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: CNN: Stone Ashamed of America

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:01 pm

Yes, he's taking the easy path to "post-9/11 conspiracy."<br><br>Yes, he's being painted as anti-American by CNN.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>But he's strategically using his Hallmark card 9/11 film to stand on to be able to point at the neocons despite CNN's bogus headline.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>So it goes... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: CNN: Stone Ashamed of America

Postby robertdreed » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:22 pm

another Left litmus test failed...purge him. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: CNN: Stone Ashamed of America

Postby greencrow0 » Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:15 am

Oliver Stone thinks 'conspiracy theories about 9/11 are a "waste of time'.<br><br>Apparently, most people feel the same way about his white bread film.<br><br>gc <p></p><i></i>
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Re: CNN: Stone Ashamed of America

Postby Dreams End » Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:43 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"The far greater conspiracy occurred after 9/11 when basically a neo-cabal inside our government hijacked policy and went to war. That was as broad a conspiracy as we can get and it was about 20, 30 people. That's all, they took over and all these books are coming out and they are pointing it out," said Stone.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I sat on a plane on the way back from Chiapas Mexico with Stone and he explained in great detail how the U.S. embassy in Mexico was a CIA base (common knowledge...largest in the hemisphere) and how it linked up with Oswald, etc.<br><br>So my question would be, did Stone mean to say "RE-hijacked?" Did he not watch his own film, JFK? <br><br>This is madness. It's too fucking well coordinated. Stone makes the rah rah movie then puts this out, Woodward does the rah rah book "Bush at War" then he joins in. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: CNN: Stone Ashamed of America

Postby AlicetheCurious » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:13 am

Here's a provocative review of the film, with political commentary:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0609/S00376.htm">www.scoop.co.nz/stories/H...S00376.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: CNN: Stone Ashamed of America

Postby yesferatu » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:52 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This is madness. It's too fucking well coordinated. Stone makes the rah rah movie then puts this out, Woodward does the rah rah book "Bush at War" then he joins in. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Right on. Can't be explained other than madness.<br><br>It makes me think of a guy I know whose dad had alzheimers. The sad details of things his dad would end up doing.... he was sitting in the lobby of a cotors office with his dad, when all of a sudden his dad had this strange, remarkable cognizant moment where even the look in his dad's eyes was that of the man he once knew, and the man he once knew looked at him and suddenly horror was the expression on his face as he told his son "My god, this is a nightmare!!" And then just as quick he submerged back into the alzheimers madness of complete forgetfulness. <br>But it kind of alarmed me to know that there is an Observer, the Person unimpaired, who is in there watching the goddamn nightmare unfold, watching the "once-themselves" now being nothing more than animated carrion that causes nothing but sadness, seemingly unending.<br>All these Woodward types will have that moment of horror-reflection, but they are far too sick to do any "soul-searching"<br>since, in the end, they are one cell of the cancer, and to kill the cancer would be to figuratively kill themselves.<br>I do not think Woodward came anywhere close enough to "killing himself" with his mild redaction. And Stone thinks he has time, when really there is none left. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:40 pm

I think Oliver Stone is correct in stating we'd be much better served working on "poverty, death, disease, the planet itself and fixing things in our own homes" than analyzing the minutae of 9-11.

I know very little about the man, though, and how he's been comprimised over the past decade. I don't imagine you can be running around Hollywood making noise like he has for very long without consequences, whatever those may be.
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