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Postby JerkyLeBoeuf » Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:19 pm

Depending on your current level of paranoia/awareness, this week's acceleration in the ongoing slide towards mass insanity and pan-global chaos serves as proof positive that the Bush Doctrine is either a miserable failure, or a brilliant success. <br><br>If you take at face value the neoconservative contention that invading and occupying Iraq were necessary first steps in transforming the Middle East into a hotbed of Jeffersonian democracy, simply opening your eyes in the morning must feel like the rudest of awakenings. <br><br>Iraq is dead already, a corpse nation in the midst of a noxious decomposition that threatens to further foul an already gangrenous region. In Baghdad alone, mass murders and sectarian atrocities are claiming dozens of innocent lives every day. Coalition-trained extremists man fake checkpoints in search of easy pickings, and roving death squads of indeterminate origin haunt the countryside, leaving nothing but corpses and despair in their wake. A recent dispatch reported the grisly discovery of a child's corpse. As if rape and decapitation weren't enough of an insult, her assailants decided to sew a dead dog's head onto the stump or her neck, transforming her into a grim yet fitting mascot for this third, grinding year of America's failed occupation. Never has the term "civil war" seemed so oxymoronic.<br><br>In the Levant, a ridiculous game of kidnap ping-pong has devolved into all-out, open war, complete with the usual bloody scenes of dead-eyed shock victims and shrieking protesters wandering amid wreckage both human and infrastructural. Meanwhile, the usual suspects are attempting to take advantage of this cross-border frenzy by using it as a pretext for dismantling the regimes in Damascus and Tehran. And won't that be a swell time for all?<br><br>Meanwhile, in Mumbai, it was India's turn to serve as an object lesson in the inherent vulnerability of pluralistic democracies. Would it be terribly vile of me to point out that the mass transit terrorist attacks that killed over two hundred innocent Indian commuters happened on a date that, numerically, works out to an amusingly ironic 7-Eleven? Say what you will about the terrorists -- or, if your darkest suspicions about the real force behind these paint-by-numbers terrorist attacks have turned to reflexive half-certainty, as have yer old pal Jerky's, The Powers That Be -- at least they've got a sense of humor.<br><br>Which brings us back to the original topic of whether the horrors described above represent a spiralling out of control, or the deliberate herding of our blindfolded species towards some terrible reckoning deemed necessary by the invisible sculptors of our history. Are we suffering the consequences of incompetence on a heretofore unimaginable scale? Or are we suffering the first pangs of artificially induced labor as some Rough Beast -- genetically modified and artificially inseminated -- prepares to rip itself from our collective womb, its hour come round at last?<br><br>I don't know about the rest of you, but I think I know the answer to that question. And I want an abortion. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: World on Fire

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:54 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>A recent dispatch reported the grisly discovery of a child's corpse. As if rape and decapitation weren't enough of an insult, her assailants decided to sew a dead dog's head onto the stump or her neck, transforming her into a grim yet fitting mascot for this third, grinding year of America's failed occupation.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Not to belittle your commentary, but I've seen no verifiable dispatch of that story that can be definitavely authenticated. <p>____________________<br>Oderint, dum metuant</p><i></i>
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Re: World on Fire

Postby bvonahsen » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:34 pm

Horror seems to be having it's day. One can only hope there is something better on the other side of the current descent into hell, though it may get worse before then.<br><br>My take is that the administration, in concert with the Israelis, are attempting to goad Iran into millitary action. <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/<br>">Arthur Silber</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> maped this out some time ago. The ultimate goal of the neocons is to engulf the mideast in chaos. They believe that they and Israel will come out on top at the end of it all. They are merely using fundamentalists and belief in "The End Times" as a means to this end. The neocons are not religious in the least, they are Stalinists and have not the slightest qualm in manipulating others to acheive their goals. Just as other factions in our government created and used New Age philosophy to manipulate the left.<br><br>The fundamentalists, especially those who believe in the rapture, are <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2006_07_01_digbysblog_archive.html#115292974672722409">positively giddy</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> these days. The prospect of the end of all things fills them with joy.<br><br>One question that I have is: "Are the neocons being manipulated too?" Is there a 'higher' order using them for a separate agenda? Maybe, no way to know really. To segue with another thread, David Icke gets almost every detail wrong, but I think the grand sweep he describes is probably right. I think he is usefull from that point of view.<br><br>Think of it, what has worked down the ages? Why was there a civil war? What was the purpose? It was, I believe, to bring the southern plantations into the financial world of the northern bankers. The plantations were self sufficent and had no real need for the goods and services, including the banking and financial institutions, of New York. Southern plantations constituted a separate fiscal economy from that in New York.<br><br>And how was it achieved? In a word, Sherman. When General Sherman marched through the south he left behind nothing but death. Sherman and his army was a sort of death squad of it's time. The technique has been refined since that time, in Latin America, the former Yugoslavia, in Iraq and soon in the whole of the mid-east. You see, the arab nations do not practice <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury#Islam">usury</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> and that must change in the eyes of some.<br><br>The tactic seems to work, if you don't mind the horror, I guess. I fully believe the goal is a one world financial structure. I'm not convinced the powers that be give a hoot about governments or nations. So long as they get their money who cares about politics?<br><br>It's about money, it's always been about money. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: World on Fire

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:11 pm

I wouldn't sweat it too much; the Rapture Index is only at 155. It's been much higher than that(185):<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.raptureready.com/rap2.html">www.raptureready.com/rap2.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p>____________________<br>Oderint, dum metuant</p><i></i>
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Re: World on Fire

Postby dugoboy » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:21 pm

that website is kind of like the sum total of all that evengelicism has given us. giddy for the end.<br><br>the bush doctrine was designed to destabalize the mideast, that simple. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT." -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A> at: 7/15/06 4:22 pm<br></i>
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The bloodlines...

Postby slimmouse » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:43 pm

<br> The bloodlines work on the age old adage.<br><br> Its called divide and conquer.<br><br> Each of the original elite took a different organised religion.<br><br> Its the easiest and most successful route. Its worked for thousands of years.<br><br> And in 2006 what do we have ?<br><br> No wonder the fuckers trashed the library at Alexandria in 500 AD.<br><br> The religions used to put the FEAR of God into ya.<br><br> Governments have adopted the same mantle. AL KAYEEDA, BIRD FLU.<br><br> Fleecing you of your labour in the process. Giving them your spiritual power, and your earnings. Keeping control in the hands of the same Global elite.<br><br> None of this is rocket science.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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11:59

Postby HMKGrey » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:55 pm

<br>It feels to me like it's a minute to midnight. <br><br>Israel's declared a state of emergency. Troops have enetered Gaza. Towns on the border with Syria are being targeted. Bush is refusing to intervene. I saw The Walrus on CNN this morning while I was grocery shopping and he was talking about Korea. <br><br>I think George may have begun his slouch towards Bethlehem.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 11:59

Postby bvonahsen » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:01 pm

Are there any signficant dates comming up soon? Not that I believe in numerology but others appear to. Or even better, any business or economically important dates up comming?<br><br>If it were to truly appear to the pre-millennial dispensationalists that armaggedon were comming you would see them whipped into a froth like you'd never believe. I fully expect to see entire sections of the US shut down due to masses of people looking to the sky with their arms upraised.<br><br>I wonder if the USAF has anything spectacular in mind? A nice showy craft surrounded by an electrostatic aura would just about do it. Or charge up HARP and light up the stratosphere. You could stop everything around the world with something like that and few of the true believers would pay any attention to those who attempted to debunk it. They'd be hung pretty quick I think. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: World on Fire

Postby yesferatu » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:36 pm

To be honest I have not watched or heard the news for a month or more....just seeing stuff like this thread while on the web. So without me having to plug into state run media, and check things out, is there a real feeling that this is a huge deal, as in far beyond what has gone down in the region since 1948? I mean it just sounds like middle east news to me from the pieces I read. Everyone else, though, sounds like this is IT.<br>The big IT being WW3, armageddon, nukes, etc. <br>Maybe I am unplugged, but it sounds like Israel is acting like Israel always has. <br>What am I missing? I think that any Iranian CIA-faked complicity in the skirmish just will not be enough for bunnypants and dickhead Cheney to get their excuse for murdering more human beings in Persia. <br>I believe the staging of such would be too apparent. <br>But apparent deception does not seem to bother most ameriKans who enjoy the excitement of their end-times being fulfilled ("if we have to manipulate events to get the Lord to come, I'm all for it" - Joe six-pack xtian), so maybe armageddon is tomorrow. <br>But I'm unplugged from news, so to me it does not feel like anything out of the ordinary.<br>Same ol' mideast BS.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: World on Fire

Postby bvonahsen » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:02 am

What you are missing is that it <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>appears</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> that the neocon goal of all out war in the mideast seems to be comming to fruition. This is not speculation, they have been very clear about their plans. The rest below is speculation though.<br><br>The administration says that Iran has weeks not months to comply with its demands to abandon uranium enrichment, while at the same time Israel launches all out war in Lebanon and Palestine. If they attack Syria it seems likely that Iran would come to it's defense which would give the US and Israel the excuse they are looking for to go directly to Iran. Probably Israel first with the US claiming it needs to help out it's ally.<br><br>War in the mideast would virtually silence democrats and other critics here during the mid-terms. The GOP stands to benefit greatly, they might even pick up a few seats instead of losing some as most pundits have predicted.<br><br>Yes the mideast is a powder keg and has been a long time. In the past however, we have always interveined and held Israel back. Bush is doing nothing and that in itself is worrying. GW may also desire armeggedon since it would validate his own religious beliefs. <br><br>This is all speculation though. We don't really <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>know</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: World on Fire

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:26 am

Hows this for speculation.<br><br>A nuke explodes in lebanon and Israel says they have proof it had come from iran and was on its way to tel Aviv via Hezbolla.<br><br>( i can think of a few reasons why israel would not want to have nukes exploding in its vicinity, but then again with all the DU in the middle east maybe they no longer care about other fallout. But there could be other reasons too. like they are human too.)<br><br>Anyway thats just speculation.<br><br>And although the middle east is and has been a powder keg for years. To quote Micheal ventura (tho he was talking about git Saddam V 1)<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>A musty foul tinge stains life now: this presence of war. Not just any war (somewhere there's been a war every day I've been alive) but a war with an unusually virulent capacity to infect the future.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Gulf war 1 was the beginning of the overt totalitarianism that now stains western life. Remember the media coverage of that war, and Shwartkoff, gloating that from day 1 the US had destroyed the enemies comms, yet for the whole war info was censored to keep info out of the enemies hands/eyes/ears.<br><br>It was a horrifying glimpse of what would be fully manifest 12 years later.<br><br>This middle eastern mess now at this time seems like one of those slow motion moments before we slip off the precipice. Everything is happening in slow motion and the future seems to be precognitively obvious. Like the shock of mega death sends ripples through time in all firections. I mean directions. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: World on Fire

Postby so buttons » Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:34 am

"Hows this for speculation.<br><br>A nuke explodes in lebanon and Israel says they have proof it had come from iran and was on its way to tel Aviv via Hezbolla."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/15/lebanon.advisory/index.html">www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/me...index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>add 25,000 american citizens stranded in lebanon (due to some kind of katrina-esque "mismanagement" in the state dept's effort to evacuate them, perhaps?) to the potential casualties element of that speculative scenario and imagine how the u.s. would be "forced" to respond. <br><br>i've finally come to the point where i fervantly hope that i am overly paranoid. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: World on Fire

Postby bvonahsen » Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:38 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>i've finally come to the point where i fervantly hope that i am overly paranoid.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>You are, Iran doesn't have nukes, none of the other arab nations involved do either. Not syria, not Lebanon.<br><br>Pakistan does though, and if the conflict were to widen and spred I could see the Pakistan mullas over throwing Mubarek, loading a nuke onto a passenger jet and flying it over Telaviv.<br><br>Lovely huh? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: World on Fire

Postby anothershamus » Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:09 pm

I don't need to add anything to these except, thanks Kevin at cryptogon.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The Newt: It's World War III :.<br><br>Turn away from the flash. Drop to the ground and lay in a prone position with your feet toward the mushroom cloud. Cover your head with your hands. Close your eyes:<br><br>Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich says America is in World War III and President Bush should say so.<br><br>Gingrich said in an interview Saturday that Bush should call a joint session of Congress the first week of September and talk about global military conflicts in much starker terms than have been heard from the president.<br><br>"We need to have the militancy that says 'We're not going to lose a city, " Gingrich said.<br><br>Gingrich said in the coming days he plans to speak out publicly and to the administration from his seat on the Defense Policy Board about the need to recognize that America is in World War III.<br><br>posted by Kevin at 2:39 AM<br><br>Iran Warns Israel of 'Unimaginable Losses' if Syria Attacked :.<br><br>Luckily, the beer we made last week is ready:<br><br>Iran warned its arch-enemy Israel Sunday of "unimaginable losses" if it attacks Syria adding that the Islamic republic was "standing by the Syrian people".<br><br>"We hope the Zionist regime does not make the mistake of attacking Syria, because extending the front would definitely make the Zionist regime face unimaginable losses," foreign ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi told reporters.<br><br>posted by Kevin at 2:00 AM<br><br>In case you were wondering what the lunatic, death cult Christians had in mind for your tax money:<br><br> More than 3,000 pro-Israel evangelical Christians will be in town next week for a "Washington/Israel summit" to push the Bush administration toward stronger support for the Jewish state.<br><br><br>CNN:<br><br> Israeli airstrikes and artillery hammered hundreds of targets in Lebanon, including two strikes on the Beirut airport, where helicopter gunships left craters in runways and turned fuel tanks into fireballs.<br><br>Keep this quote, from Martin van Creveld, professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, in mind:<br><br> We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.'<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: World on Fire

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:28 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The Orthodox Jews down in Miami Beach are really snobby to us outsiders and always keep the best bagles for themselves..<br><br>Knee-jerk panicky sarcasm aside, I'll state for the record I'm heavily disapointed in the Human Race right now. Someone else might say their scared shitless, but ultimately thanks to my nihilistic indoctrination(cheers, Illuminaughty!), I'm not afraid to die, I'm just saddened by our overwhelming failures.<br><br>I keep thinking what we must look like to an outside intellegence that would bother to monitor us, and wonder if they have a betting pool on our survival beyond the next 5-10 years. There's so much incredible beauty and life here on Earth, so many innocent creatures dragged into perpetual suffering, their fate bound to our stupidity..<br><br>I think people have lost the 'right' to dominate this world. Can't we just make a 'people bomb' that won't hurt other life so something else has a chance after we're all pillars of salt? We can blame it on the insanity of the power elite, but why aren't we all forcefully evacuating the offices of those in power everywhere instead of airing our grief here?<br><br>I also keep thinking of the Georgia Guidestones:<br><br>Be not a Cancer on the Earth<br><br>Be not a Cancer on the Earth<br><br>Be not a Cancer on the Earth<br><br>Be not a Cancer on the Earth<br><br>Be not a Cancer on the Earth<br><br>Be not a Cancer on the Earth<br> <p>____________________<br>Oderint, dum metuant</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.sickle666.com/images/Arcadia.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 7/16/06 12:29 pm<br></i>
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