Osama alive & well, armed with nukes

[darkbeforedawn]

You believe Fox News et.al. telling us that this "bogeyman" is a dire threat. I believe the Pakistani authorities who really had no reason to lie about this. I also believe my own eyes. Look at the last known photos of Osama taken in December 01. His skin is literally yellow/green his eyes are sunken and he has no flesh on his cheek bones. In short--the closest thing to death warmed over. Since that time I have seen no photos of him. The ridiculous "video" with the fake animation dragged out around election time in 04 is just hilarious. If you believe this stuff, more's the shame. He said he had no part in 9-11. I believe him. I don't believe what the media says. Much information has come out lately giving ample proof the Al-CIA-DUHHH is a concoction of the Rovian media to drive us into "war without end". Too bad to see you expressing such desperate fear for this media phantom. Like I said, the real "bogeymen" all live here. <p></p><i></i>

[thoughtographer]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>You believe Fox News et.al. telling us that this "bogeyman" is a dire threat.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Don't tell me what I believe, asshole. Did you even read my post? <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

[anotherdrew]

Dark. - you and T. are talking about two different OBL's. you're talking about the flesh and blood OBL person which may or may not be alive or even important, while T. is talking about the political/media construct entity, which is surely still alive and important for a majority of the american voters.<br><br>as for who is able to manuipulate the media entity - that could be done by: the bushgang, real jhadis, the real OBL or even others.<br><br>the media entity could be killed by proving beyond a reasonable doubt the the real person OBL is dead, but the word of some pakistani officials isn't good enough, granted it may be surpresed truth and there is reason to think so, but I don't feel it's 100% a sure thing. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=anotherdrew>anotherdrew</A> at: 4/22/06 6:12 pm<br></i>

[thoughtographer]

Well put. Thank you for clearing that up. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

[darkbeforedawn]

Guess I jumped to conclusions. It's not a very fine distinction. I should have read more carefully. These days it seems like were are living in a metafictional maze. It's difficult for the average Joe (that's me) to discern at any given moment the purpose of the all the various government and corporate spins constantly being given to what passes for "reality" and exactly whose storyline is being promoted for what purpose. I long for the good old days (that probably never existed) when real things happened and other people did their best to tell you the truth about it. Old Bin Ladin does make a wonderful bogeyman, though, I agree Thoughto. Hollywood couldn't have done better--unless of course you wanted to talk about Henry Kissinger. Now there's real nightmare material. <p></p><i></i>

[NewKid]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Weldon's tale of Osama meeting with bogeyman Zarqawi in Iran is not very credible, to put it mildly. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Weldon seems like a very bizarre figure to me. Does anybody have a good read on him or what his agenda might be? <p></p><i></i>

[Qutb]

Weldon is of course the guy who spearheaded Able Danger hearings in Congress... but I think he just acted as a conduit (is that the right word?) for people in the military who wanted that story to be known. He is said to be close to military circles. When he's talking about Osama and Zarqawi in Iran, it's natural to think he's being used as a conduit for Pentagon disinfo. <p></p><i></i>

[greencrow0]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/">www.cbc.ca/news/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>How do you know OBL is dead? The docile, criminally complicit Mainstream Media insists he 'just came out with a new tape'. Whatever they 'mass' dissemble is obviously false.<br><br>especially....just while Bush's numbers are tanking.<br><br>that's how,<br><br>gc <p></p><i></i>

[thoughtographer]

You're right, darkbeforedawn; it's all a daunting mess, and I'm often hasty to forget that everyone approaches a mess in their own way.<br><br>Anyway, moving on...<br><br>I'm pretty familiar with Well-done. Have any of you checked out <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curt_Weldon">his wikipedia entry</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> yet? It'll make your head spin if you haven't.<br>An interesting leg-up:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>His efforts as mayor were geared towards reviving his town against the violent <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Pagans Motorcycle Gang</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Pagans Motorcycle Club</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> was formed by Lou Dobkins (<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>a biochemist at the National Institute of Health</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->) in 1959 in Prince George's County, Maryland. The Pagans MC rapidly expanded, and by 1968 they dominated the entire East Coast.<br><br>The Pagans, by 1965, originally clad in blue denim jackets and riding Triumphs, had begun to evolve along the lines of the California stereotype generated by such famous motorcycle clubs as the Booze Fighters, Cavaliers, Coffin Cheaters, Comancheros, Crossmen, Defiants, Devil's Henchmen, El Diablos, Falcons, Galloping Gooses, Gladiators, Gypsy Jokers, Gypsy Outlaws, Hangmen, Iron Horsemen, Journeymen, Marauders, Mofos, Night Riders, Outlaws, Presidents, Road Rats, Satan's Slaves, Stray Satans, Thunderbirds, Thunder Riders, etc. Most of these were eventually merged with the Hells Angels.<br><br>The Pagans MC patch depicts the god Surt with a flaming sword and Pagans in red, white and blue. In Norse Cosmology, Surt is the Fire Giant who rules over Muspelheim, the realm of fire in the south. There, he stands ever alert brandishing his great, fiery sword which shines brighter than the sun. At Ragnarok, the final battle between the Norse Gods and the Giants, he is the one who sets the world on fire and burns it down.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://gorenfeld.net/images/weldon_khadafy.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Weldon spoke at the coronation of Sun Myung Moon "as humanity's Savior, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent", on March 23, 2004 in the Dirksen Senate Office Building. His office originally vehemently denied his attendance, then when he was revealed to be a co-chair organizer of the event[1] claimed that he had intended to attend but could not because of a scheduling conflict; then when a photo surfaced of him speaking at the event while standing next to a lifesize photo of him pinning a Unification Church medal on Moammar Al Qadhafi, stated that he had left immediately after the speech and had no knowledge of what else went on.[2]<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessage?topicID=3829.topic">A relevant thread from here, by "chiggerbit".</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 4/23/06 7:06 pm<br></i>