on edit: !! Campaign to call READERS like us "terrorist

[havanagilla]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>one thing that can't be taken away from us.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>MC (and I believe RA) experience disproves that. choice can be easily taken away from you. snap, its gone. That's the key to the novel reality. It appears that PTB prime preference these days is to zombify not kill, individuals as well as groups.<br>The essence of slavery is the deprivatoin of choice, which is why the famous "live free or die" concept came to be. I wish life was so simple as you describe. I suspect that we have to update our notions, to keep up with the plans and realities that await us. For a typical western middle class, there is seeming choice (although this too is a fiction in a way), but the rest of the world is not so lucky. go rent the dvd of "memento". what is the power of choice when choice has been taken away by a loss of memory. (i think it is a metaphore but maybe its just a story about a man who lost his memory in an accident. and is left with only very short memory of the last few minutes each time. his condition is used cynically by a police man who wants to cheat him to beleive something so that he assassins someone thinking they are somebody else. I will not ruin the end, but its a better matrix than the usual, western "we are responsible for our choices" (and for the rest of the world's choices...but let's not say that out loud).<br><br>I agree with the rest, under normal conditions. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[AlicetheCurious]

You're right, I did think of MC as I wrote that, but for me, that's the value of sites like RI and others. I'm not talking about down-and-dirty government programming, but the more informed people are, the less vulnerable they are to sneaky manipulation, no matter how sophisticated. After taking a media course 25 years ago, about marketing and commercial advertising, I was never able to look at ads the same way again, and am, I think, far less vulnerable to them than most people.<br><br>For that matter, even the government-type mc can be fought by spreading information about the phenomenon, because many qualified therapists, if they are referred such a case, could look it up on the web and become more informed. They might even be more open-minded than to automatically dismiss the client's allegations as paranoid delusions, and maybe they can even provide actual treatment rather than medications.<br><br>It's true that a lot of people here are becoming frustrated and bitching that we're all just blowing hot air. I disagree, because I do believe that information is power. The more people are informed, the more people are resistant to manipulation. That's what I believe, anyway. <p></p><i></i>

[havanagilla]

awareness to MC etc. is important, but more so eradication.prevention, and this depends mostly on civil resistance within each of our societies. the evil of these practices is crossing any borders of nationality or politics, its everywhere, and tells us something about the depth of the moral gangrene, in many places. Since it takes a whole rotten structure in society to allow for this to occur, there is a lot of work to do on exposing and warning the public. <br>--<br>what has been done to invididuals will be used on society, to gain control. the concpet of "accountability" needs a reform. we are going through great lengths on this board to show, for instance, that some famous assasinations are plots and that those who committed them in person, were operated as one would operate a pistol. (Kennedy murders, up to 911 and colombine etc.).<br>--<br>Selective application of "free choice" theories is dangerous and can also be manipulative. if your government decides to put mercury or ecstasy in your drinking water/air to make you a zombie, many people will lost their "free choice". so what's the deal with that concept being used as a guilt trip ? <p></p><i></i>