'Terrorist' bomb makers arrested in Toronto Area

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turrsts everywhere but here

Postby friend catcher » Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:29 pm

This comes from <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://leninology.blogspot.com/">leninology.blogspot.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>"This is a load of bollocks. Scum of the World says that the cops didn't shoot the Abdul Kahar Kalam without warning - his brother did. According to their 'sources' (the same kind of cops who fed repeated, malicious lies about Menezes to the papers), the cops were breaking into the house at 4am, like you do, minding their own business and that, when suddenly these fucking "Muslim brothers" start coming down the stairs at them. One of them grabs for the gun which - somehow - already has the safety catch turned off, and in the ensuing "scuffle" shot his brother. It's only a hunch (an informed guess, really), but I think this is a steaming pile of fucking crap.<br><br>Grainy, menacing picture: "shot by his OWN BROTHER".<br>Among the other 'revelations' are that the one who was shot has a big beard - quite bushy, in fact, menacingly so - is a mail worker and had the bailiffs round recently because he hadn't been able to pay his bills. Oh, but don't let that fool you: him and his brother were "flush with money", ready to go on a trip to the "luxury island" of Mauritius with the family. And the parents, gawd bless em, are so eager to continue with this holiday that they have asked to see one of the brothers to inform them of this and begged the police to give them the suitcases that they still need to go. Either these are the most disloyal and repellent parents in history or they are being hideously maligned by the Scum. Other eyewitness accounts have the parents screaming in grief and shock when they discovered that one of their sons had been shot.<br><br>And yeah, that bomb that they're supposed to have that no one can find? Well, apparently "intelligence" suggested that they had a big bunch of fucking "hidey-holes" where they could secrete a device. And it isn't any ordinary bomb either. It's a "chemical bomb", "primed and ready to go", laced with deadly "cyanide". This is weird, because the police have been telling us it was a "suicide vest" that would pump out toxic gas - how does one commit suicide then go off on a trip to a "luxury island"? Apparently, "One line of inquiry was that the gas was to be released in a busy and enclosed shopping centre, which mirrors the current plotline in the Sky hit drama 24 starring Kiefer Sutherland." So, let's get this straight: one the chief revelations of this story is that "one line of inquiry" happens to coincide with the exact current plotline on show aired by Sky which happens to be owned by Rupert Murdoch who happens to own the Scum of the World?<br><br>Never miss an opportunity to plug their own shit.<br>Last revelation? All that stuff about "tensions" is made up: the local community loves the coppers. Oh yeah, the neighbours were handing out cups of tea and everything. I confidently expect to discover that they actually dragged the two suspects away through a ticker tape parade.<br><br>Something's up with this whole story. Not merely the Scum of the World's script, but everything we're being told about this (not least the repeated insistence that This Is Not Like Menezes) feels wrong." <p></p><i></i>
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Re: turrsts everywhere but here

Postby bvonahsen » Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:54 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Of course the security services have attempted - and probably succeeded - to infiltrate the suspected terrorist networks. That's their job. Of course they're trying to recruit "assets" and informants. That's how they operate.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Yes, you're right. And if the terrorists don't know how to construct a proper bomb, they'll show them how to correctly mix the ingredients, as we did in the first attack on the twin towers. And if they're a little reluctent to go through with the action, our dedicated people will push or goad them into it. That's how they operate.<br><br>That's not how I'd <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>like</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> them to operate though. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: turrsts everywhere but here

Postby havanagilla » Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:14 pm

perhaps a distinction bn official services as csis/rcmp and ptb's will help. those who concoct the false flags are not the agencies but groups that can manipulate those agencies. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: turrsts everywhere but here

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<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1149371435834&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154">RCMP behind bomb material</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> Massive sweep | "Investigators controlled the sale and transport of three tonnes of ammonium nitrate in an undercover probe of an alleged homegrown terrorist cell.."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br><br> great analysis from yayacanada:<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.yayacanada.com/toronto_terrorist_arrests_03-06-06.html">The Toronto "Terrorist" Arrests</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>and<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2006/06/toronto-17.html">xymphora's</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=1tal>1 tal</A> at: 6/4/06 2:30 pm<br></i>
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Re: turrsts everywhere but here

Postby greencrow0 » Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:52 pm

thanks for that link 1 tal<br><br>very important POV and info...more likely a sting op than anything else...and aren't we all tired and bored of THAT!<br><br>I googled 'luc portelance' to so-called assistant of security for CSIS and these two links came up. One of them is a hate website against arabs<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.clarityandresolve.com/">www.clarityandresolve.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The other one looks like a government sponsorted 'anti-terrorism website' but is actually another anti muslim hate site.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.counterterrorismblog.org/">www.counterterrorismblog.org/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>GC<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Chickens already coming home to roost!

Postby dugoboy » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:46 pm

Qutb, i wasn't being reactionary, if you notice i did like 2 or 3 posts over the course of many hours before i noted how interesting it was it happens the same weekend of the thing in chicago. given this let me quote something you said:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>but I'll say it anyway: What security services around the world have been doing with regard to terrorism since September 11 2001 - with perhaps an exception for the American intelligence agencies - is better analyzed as an almost <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>panicked overreation to what they perceived as a real and imminent threat</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, than as a clever plot to get us all pliable and slowly conditioned for a coming NWO global police state.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>i agree with you on that, its probably a more sobered look at it. there probably won't be a fully armored stormtrooper at every street corner (the cost alone is prohibitive), but instead this society will imprison itself through obesity, fear and laughing at the daily show as they forget their responsibility of the mess their in. they'd rather us consent in mass ignorance than in a bloody military takeover (because they already have)..<br><br>then you said this:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>But they haven't invented this whole thing. No way. I think that's a horribly unlikely alternative narrative which requires an extreme voluntary ignorance of the most basic facts about Islamist radicalism and international terrorism.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>i didn't say it was an invented story. the more i think about your right, Islamist radicalism is being used as the scapegoat because it is a real believable phenomenon manufactured by intelligence agencies or not. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT."</p><i></i>
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Re: Chickens already coming home to roost!

Postby Byrne » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:24 am

Reading the commentary on the yayacanada link, I see that the ‘plot’ involved large quantities of fertiliser. From <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://icberkshire.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200berkshireheadlines/tm_objectid=17137005&method=full&siteid=50102&headline=-mi5-spies-tailed-terrorist-suspects-through-streets--name_page.html" target="top">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>THREE men accused of conspiring to commit a terrorist atrocity with a British al-Qaeda cell, were tracked around Slough by a crack MI5 team, an Old Bailey jury has been told.<br><br>Omar Khyam, 25, from Slough, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Canadian Momin Khawaja</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, 27, and Shujah Mahmood, 20, were followed and filmed by the secret service when they met up at Universal Video and Internet Cafe, Herschel Street, and later when they drove around the borough.<br><br>They were among seven men in court this week charged with conspiracy to cause an explosion likely to endanger life or injure property between January 1, 2003 and March 31, 2004. They all deny the charges.<br><br>Khyam and two other defendants also deny possessing<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> 600kg of fertiliser</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> for the purposes of terrorism between November 11, 2003 and March 31, 2004. Khyam and another man further deny possessing aluminium powder for purposes connected with terrorism between October 1, 3003 and March 31, 2004.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>The same scheme (i.e. large quantities of fertiliser being bought/stored by Muslims) we are told was behind the arrest/detention of 7-9 people in the UK in March 2004 under <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Crevice" target="top">Operation Crevice</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->.<br><br>Two of the alleged London 7/7 ‘Suicide Bombers’ (Mohammad Siddique Khan & Shehzad Tanweer)were also involved in the Operation Crevice surveillance, but they were let go as the decision had been made because ...<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debate/?id=2006-05-15b.704.1" target="top">they were peripheral, and that it would be a wrong judgment to use resources and assets to pursue them rather than the main characters in the main conspiracy that was being pursued</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->. (Reply by John Reid - UK Home Secretary - we have not yet been told what the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>main conspiracy</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> that he refers to, was).<br><br><br>There was a Canadian name linked to Operation Crevice:<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Mohammed Momin Khawaja</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> - believed to have been an link between New York-based Mohammed Junaid Babar (US Supergrass currently the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4839484.stm" target="top">prime witness/evidence supplier</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> against the 7-9 arrested) and the 7 charged & in court under Op Crevice. See <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/05/22/khawaja-mon.html" target="top">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> & <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/thecanadian.html" target="top">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->. See also <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://gigablast.com/get?d=9883580899" target="top">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> for a link that brings in the slippery character Haroon Rasheed Aswat.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Chickens already coming home to roost!

Postby professorpan » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:49 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>There, I said it. Now, bring the straightjacket and my medication. I realize no one here will agree with me in this conclusion. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I always appreciate your perspective, Qutb.<br><br>I think it's too early to make assumptions about the legitimacy of the alleged terrorist ring. It could be exactly what it seems like on the surface -- a sting operation that uncovered a real plot. It could also be more complex beneath the surface.<br><br>I do share your concerns about the tendency of some RI board regulars to assume that every story is a complex, orchestrated PSYOP. <p></p><i></i>
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The explanation behind every story is NOT always

Postby Byrne » Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:10 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>a complex, orchestrated PSYOP<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->but sometimes no other rational explanation fits.<br><br>PPan, <br>I'm not saying that that is the case here but it is amenable (for me at least - that's why I come here) to point out links/associations/anomalies/coincidences/incongruities/discrepancies for others who are not aware or who can contribute their understanding of the subject.<br><br>I know I don't need to tell you that....<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The explanation behind every story is NOT always

Postby greencrow0 » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:35 am

from xymphora <br><br>Tuesday, June 06, 2006<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>More on the Toronto 17</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>The Official Story on the 17 arrested ‘terrorists’ in Toronto shifted from no mention of a police sting operation, to a report by the Toronto Star, which seems to have all the sources on this matter, that the supply of the tons of fertilizer was a RCMP sting, to a denial that it was a sting. The Official Story is now the heroic one that the RCMP intercepted the shipment and replaced the dangerous fertilizer with an non-dangerous substance. Obviously, some bigwig at the RCMP realized that the sting story would be used by lawyers for the defendants, and ordered that a safer story be spread. Rapid changes in the Official Story is a sure sign of official shenanigans.<br><br>CSIS has an unfortunate history of using informants. In the late 80’s, the terrorist threat du jour was extreme right-wing terrorism. CSIS hired a man named Grant Bristow to infiltrate right-wing groups. He did such a good job that he almost ended up as the leader, and how far he went in fitting in with his extremist pals is till the subject of controversy. Unfortunately for CSIS, there were no right-wing extremist groups to speak of in Canada prior to Bristow. There were a few loud-mouths with no money and essentially no followers. Some of the money supplied by CSIS was used to fund the main group, the Heritage Front. CSIS was therefore the founder of right-wing extremism in Canada! <br><br>This sort of thing is not uncommon. Anti-terrorist organizations need terrorist organizations in order to receive more finding. The RCMP quite obviously worked to have the Conservatives elected in the last Canadian election, and the Conservatives ran on a law-and-order platform of increased government funding for police, prisons and spies. The Conservatives are already taking credit for the latest arrests based on their increased funding for law-and-order, clear nonsense as the operation started in 2004, two years before they were in government. Nevertheless, this type of sting plays right into the hands of the law-and-order types (for discussion of motives, and the best summary of the case, see the Yayacanada.com summary, including the idea raised in the comments that the parallel British case – this was a Canadian/American/British operation - is starting to fall part), and also allows the Conservatives to appease their big brothers in Washington (the way the story was presented, with all the police lined up in a news conference in uniforms, and the over-the-top theatrics of the unnecessary and un-Canadian security, shows a clear American influence, and was intended to taint the jury pool). It also neatly fits the general Zionist clash of civilizations theme (read this in the New York Sun!), that no one is any safer than Israel from the treat of irrational and hateful Islam.<br><br>You can see how this operation works. The government finds a particularly loud hot head, and puts an informant in close to him. The informant steers him to more and more radical positions, at least rhetorically. He forms a group, which becomes the ‘terrorist cell’. The end game is to suggest that the informant can obtain some contraband, like fertilizer, and the shipment of the fertilizer is the end of the sting. The hot head may in fact not even be aware of the fertilizer (in this case, a younger member of the group is alleged to have purchased it), or have no bad plans for it, but he, and by extension his group, and suddenly in jail as ‘terrorists’. Everything they own is depicted as part of a terrorist attack, and everything they have done is a ‘training exercise’.<br><br>Canada is currently murdering innocent civilians in Afghanistan, a situation recently extended by the Canadian Parliament (requiring the shameful vote of some Liberals, including Liberal leadership front-runner Igantieff, who received a hand-shake from Canadian Prime Minister Harper after the vote). In the context of the ‘war on terror’, and the escalation of that war in Canada, a country which hasn’t intentionally entered into a campaign to kill innocent civilians in a very long time (possibly since the campaign against the Métis in the 1870’s), it is no surprise that it should be easy to establish a group of young Muslim males who are angry. The war on terror is the cause of the problem, not the solution (note the backasswardness).<br><br>The police are making a great deal out of the fact that the new al Qaeda/Osama is the internet. ‘Jihad’ training and organization is now blamed on the internet. Many people predicted that capitalism would suffer under the internet, but instead it benefited greatly. The internet was thus allowed to thrive, for a while As we have recently seen in the lies about Iran in the National Post, the internet is posing huge problems for International Zionism. We will no doubt start to hear increased calls for control of information. Prepare to kiss your internet good-bye. <br><br>=====================<br><br>It's what I've been saying lately about how short sighted and naive it is for government services and corporations to be moving towards 'paperless offices' and depending on the Internet.<br><br>IMHO, we're moving towards a concocted crisis where all government services will be shut down prior to the big takeover.<br><br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The explanation behind every story is NOT always

Postby Byrne » Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:09 pm

From <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://cryptome.org" target="top">Cryptome</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><br>A. provides: <br><br>Nevermind foreign terrorists, why is Canada growing its own extremists? <br><br>Stewart Bell, National Post (Canada), Saturday, June 03, 2006 <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=8ef8514e-3fa2-44e2-83ee-6073a8e6ea19" target="top">www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=8ef8514e-3fa2-44e2-83ee-6073a8e6ea19 </a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Together with this article, the National Post posted a declassified document, "INSAC: Sunni extremism - Use of Converts" <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/images/Secret.pdf" target="top">www.canada.com/nationalpost/images/Secret.pdf</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The explanation behind every story is NOT always

Postby professorpan » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:44 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>PPan, <br>I'm not saying that that is the case here but it is amenable (for me at least - that's why I come here) to point out links/associations/anomalies/coincidences/incongruities/discrepancies for others who are not aware or who can contribute their understanding of the subject.<br><br>I know I don't need to tell you that....<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Not at all. Bring on the links/associatons/anomalies/coincidences/incongruities/discrepancies. I'm all for exploring all possibilities. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Byrne » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:14 pm

Michael Meacher article concerning Haroon Aswat (referred to in previous posts on this thread).<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.epolitix.com/EN/MPWebsites/Michael+Meacher/5e901faf-af21-48bd-8251-d4397e711bfe.htm">Source</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Michael Meacher<br>Articles <br><br> “Axis of Lies is spun to hide the truth”<br><br><br> Something very odd is happening. The suspect wanted by the police for ‘masterminding’ the 7/7 and 21/7 bombings, Haroon Rashid Aswat, has now been detained in the UK for seven months, but apparently not even been questioned about the bombings. Instead he is being held awaiting a decision by the Home Secretary to extradite him to the US on the grounds of setting up a terrorist training base in Oregon. This may however be explained by the sensational statement made on the US Fox Television network by the American terrorism expert, John Loftus, a former senior FBI prosecutor, that Aswat is in fact an agent of MI6 and has been under their protection for many years. In Loftus’ own words: “What’s really embarrassing is that the entire British police are out chasing him, and one wing of the Government, MI6 or the British Secret Service, has been hiding him……He’s a double agent”.<br><br> This is not the first time that information put into the public domain by the UK security services has turned out to be distinctly dodgy. We were told for months that US rendition flights taking prisoners to countries that sanctioned torture had never landed at British airfields. It is now admitted that two CIA-chartered aircraft used for this purpose landed at least 14 times at Northolt and Brize Norton in a 7-month period shortly after the Iraq War.<br><br> We were told (eerily familiar from the 9/11 attacks) that the 7/7 London bombings last year came out of the blue and the security services had no prior warning. We now know, from internal security sources, that MI5 was aware a year beforehand that two of the bombers were planning to fight for Al-Qaeda, and had bugged them for two months as they talked about this and their plans to return to a camp in Pakistan for British terrorists. Rebel MI5 agents have leaked documents showing Ministers withheld information from the public about what the security services knew about the suspects before the bombings. They want an inquiry into ‘intelligence failures’, but this has been rejected.<br><br> When the Brazilian Jean Charles de Manezes was shot shortly after the abortive 21 July bombings, a series of allegations about his behaviour and clothing were made public to justify his wrongful killing. Again, we now know that none of them was true.<br><br> We are already familiar, in the case particularly of the Iraq War, of stories being planted in the public domain to manipulate opinion into the acceptance of policies that would otherwise have been insupportable. The story of an alleged ‘poison gas’ attack on the London Underground broke in November 2002, four months before the Iraq War was started. MI5 and police sources were cited to claim that “a terrorist attack had been nipped in the bud”. In fact, no plot had been discovered.<br><br> Even more significantly, on 5 January 2003, just two months before the war, a police raid on a flat in Wood Green, north London, was said to have found a ‘poisons laboratory’, including recipes for ricin. Two days later the Prime Minister announced that the discovery highlighted the dangers of WMD and that “the arrests show this danger is present and real and with us now. Its potential is huge”. Yet on that same day chemical weapons experts at Porton Down had found in more accurate tests that the initial positive result for ricin was false. There was no ricin in the flat. But this crucial evidence was kept suppressed for over two years. When by chance it did come to light in the Kamel Bourgass murder case, the defence lawyers argued that it was a massive conspiracy tapestry woven by the authorities, and used by the government to justify the war in Iraq and detention without trial in the UK. <br><br> A similar tactic was used to legitimise the war in Kosovo in 1999. The then US Defence Secretary, William Cohen, claimed that “We’ve now seen about 100,000 military-aged [Albanian] men missing…they may have been murdered”. The Prime Minister invoked the Holocaust, and the British press took up the call with headlines like “Flight from genocide”. Yet a year later the International War Crimes Tribunal found that the final body count in Kosovo’s ‘mass graves’ was less than 2,800. The genocide-that-wasn’t had legitimised a war that was actually aimed at the dismemberment of the last centralised State-run economy in Europe.<br><br> Even when the true facts have been uncovered by independent investigation, the security services may still try to spin a false line. When the American-led Iraq Survey Group were due to report categorically after the war that there were no WMD in Iraq, John Scarlett, head of the UK Joint Intelligence Committee, still tried to insert 9 ‘nuggets’ into the report, reintroducing claims that the ISG had already found to be false, to make it appear that maybe there were still WMD out there. Not content with the ‘sexing up’ of the Government’s original dossier, he then tried to do the same to the US report.<br><br> The implications of this catalogue of fabrications, distortions and lies are serious. Can the security services and the authorities be trusted? Two reforms are clearly called for. One concerns the Commons Intelligence and Security Committee which at present is appointed by the Prime Minister and reports directly to him, and he can edit their report before publication if he chooses. If intelligence briefings are not to be selectively used or misrepresented for political purposes, the ISC should in future be appointed by the House as a whole, should receive full intelligence briefings on key issues, and should report directly to the House.<br><br> Second, allegations made by the security services or Home Office against alleged terrorists should not by themselves alone justify indefinite detention by control orders without charge or trial. Charges should be stated and a trial held unless a judge independently, on the precedent of public interest indemnity certificates, concurs with the Home Secretary’s advice that there are overriding reasons of national security that the evidence cannot be made public at an open trial. This is a reform which Parliament should insist upon later this year when the Terrorism Act is due for review. <br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The explanation behind every story is NOT always

Postby greencrow0 » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:24 am

From the thestar.com<br><br>Here it is in a nutshell, why this terrorist act was perpetrated on the Canadian public:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Lawyer Arif Raza, who represents 19-year-old Saad Khalid of Mississauga, Ont., said court was the only place he was able to talk to his client, who wasn’t allowed to carry his business card. <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Denying a prisoner a private meeting with a lawyer is a violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, said Raza, adding that he’ll mount a Charter challenge if he doesn’t get to speak with his client alone.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>“I think unequal treatment, just because of these allegations, is improper.”<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>This is a planned assault on the Charter of Rights and Freedoms....like they do in the US, the government just blatantly ignores the constitutional rights of citizens [and treaty obligations] <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>and gets away with it</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->...thus setting a precedent for the future...and putting citizens on notice that that right or freedom has been, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>de facto</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, taken away from them.<br><br>GC <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The explanation behind every story is NOT always

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<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/v4/sub/MarketingPage?user_URL=http://www.theglobeandmail.com%2Fservlet%2Fstory%2FLAC.20060606.COMARTIN06%2FTPStory%2F%3Fquery%3Dlawrence%2BMartin&ord=1149690511757&brand=theglobeandmail&force_login=true">theglobeandmail</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br> this pretty much sums it up. Unfortunately, you have to register but here are some pity quotes:<br><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The fear card has been dealt -- and Harper will play it</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>By LAWRENCE MARTIN<br>Tuesday, June 6, 2006, Page A17<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"..and ratchet up support for the law-and-order conservatism of Stephen Harper.<br> There will be less regard for civil rights, more regard for excessive security, and quite possibly, a hardening of the appetite for the war in Afghanistan.<br> Events like this make it easy for political leaders to mobilize citizen anxiety. Mr Harper has been handed a golden gift for a politician of the right - the fear card. He is very likely to play it."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>snip<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> '..but no longer. Mr. Harper never viewed our position as being quite so admirable. He wants full membership in the axis of the Anglos - and will likely get it."[/i[<br><br>snip <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"..Having come this far, the Prime Minister can now go farther. Public support in this country for the war on terror will be likely to rise, giving him enough leeway to put himself firmly in league with the tough guys.<br> We've heard his "cut and run" jargon. Now there will be additions. Lines like, "Our freedoms are at risk" and "Our way of life is under threat". They will be the rallying cries any time the government wants more support for policing, for security, for wars.<br> The beauty of it politically is that no one will be able to say with certainty that Mr Harper is wrong</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br>snip<br><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"...to look to the Liberals is to see that the leading candidate in the leadership race is the more militant Michael Ignatieff.."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>snip<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"...That's what can happen when the card is in play. The cure can be worse than the disease itself."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br><br> Michael Ignatieff is the neo-liberal candidate for the (so-called)Liberal party: pro-war, pro-corporate, pro-torture. Recently re-imported from Harvard where he's spent the last 30 years.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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