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How to find Agents

Postby marykmusic » Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:20 pm

From today's Arizona Republic (I don't have much luck posting links, so here's the story.) --MaryK<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>CIA agents easily ID'd via Web, paper says <br><br>Associated Press <br>Mar. 12, 2006 12:00 AM <br><br>CHICAGO - The identities of 2,600 CIA employees and the locations of two dozen of the agency's covert workplaces in the United States can be found easily through Internet searches, according to an investigation by the Chicago Tribune.<br><br>The newspaper obtained the information from data providers who charge fees for access to public records and reported on its findings in today's editions. It did not publish identities or other details on its searches, citing concern that it could endanger the CIA employees.<br><br>Not all of the 2,653 people the newspaper said it could identify as CIA employees were supposed to be covert, an issue raised in the Justice Department investigation of whether someone in the Bush administration leaked the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame to reporters in 2003. <br><br>Some in fact were non-covert analysts or senior executives, such as former Director George Tenet. But the newspaper said that it shared some of its findings with the CIA and that the agency acknowledged the partial list of names included covert employees.<br><br>"Cover is an issue we look at all the time, and we are always looking to improve it," spokesman Tom Crispell said Saturday.<br><br>Through the data providers, the newspaper said it identified people by telephone listings, real estate transactions, voting records and other financial and legal documents. <br><br>"Cover is a complex issue that is more complex in the Internet age," the CIA's chief spokeswoman, Jennifer Dyck, said. "There are things that worked previously that no longer work."<br><br>The Tribune also found two dozen CIA facilities in Chicago, northern Virginia, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Utah and Washington state. <br><br>One of the facilities, a CIA training area dubbed "The Farm" at Camp Peary, Va., was a well-kept secret for decades. The agency refused to publicly acknowledge its existence, even after ex-CIA personnel confirmed its presence in the 1980s.<br><br>But the Tribune said an Internet search for the term "Camp Peary" produced data identifying the names and other details of 26 people who apparently work there.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: How to find Agents

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:08 pm

This story is meant to:<br>>amplify the campaign to portray the internet as dangerous to national security.<br><br>>create concern and empathy for the CIA, just like 'Plamegate' as the CIA's 'white girl story.'<br><br>>chill people by suggesting they can be found with computers.<br><br>People I talk to on the phone are now avoiding words and using euphemisms and clarifying their comments to 'listeners' just in case.<br>They try to make a joke of it but the NSA surveillance story has done lots of chilling as intended. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: How to find Agents

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:24 pm

Got an idea, probably not an original one, by any means. Call up every Republican family member and friend that you know, casually drop trigger words such as "bomb", "CIA", "plot" (?), any words on "THEIR" list, then explain at the end of the conversation that you did it on purpose, so that your friendly Republican friend, family member will know how it feels to be followed illegally.<br><br>Anybody got the list of suspect words? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: How to find Agents

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:46 pm

Why Chiggerbit! Are you suggesting manipulating people? Shocking! <br><br>How about:<br>Sending out a mailing declaring that due to the unPatriot Act's laws against sending money to terrorist organizations, it is no longer legal to pay one's taxes to the US government under penalty of kidnapping, torture, indictment by a military tribunal using the torture-obtained statement, and then either execution or disappearance into the US judicial system like the 5000 or so people in the last three years who's files are 'not found.'<br><br>Think that would get their attention? Yeah, probably not. sigh. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: How to find Agents

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:55 pm

WHAT, manipulating? No, no, no, I prefer to call it "reality testing". <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Reality testing."

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:03 am

Although I agree with the emphasis on the mind in the saying <br>"All experience is real," I still like the pragmatism in the saying<br>"Reality is that which can kill you even though you don't believe in it."<br><br>Post-Awareness Stress Disorder is contagious if you respect it.<br><br>I like Thom Hartmann's radio sign-off, "tag-you're it."<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: How to find Agents

Postby CyberChrist » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:23 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>People I talk to on the phone are now avoiding words and using euphemisms and clarifying their comments to 'listeners' just in case. They try to make a joke of it but the NSA surveillance story has done lots of chilling as intended.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>You can use Skype and encrypt any conversation you want to have with someone. Skype makes the listeners sweat. <p>--<br>CyberChrist<br>http://www.hackerjournal.org<br>My brain is hung like a horse.</p><i></i>
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