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Osama alive & well, armed with nukes

Postby nomo » Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:15 pm

And so it goes. WND getting the people prepared for the inevitable nuclear "terror" attack. Hey, this guy "Osama" sounds vaguely familiar. Where have I heard that name before?<br><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>Osama alive, well, armed with nukes<br>Journalist: Al-Qaida chief shuttles between Pakistan, Afghanistan<br>Posted: April 21, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49831">www.wnd.com/news/article....E_ID=49831</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Editor's note: Information from the following jaw-dropping column was first featured in the current issue of Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium, online intelligence newsletter published by the founder of WND. Annual subscriptions have been reduced to just $99 and include a free copy of Farah's latest book, "Taking America Back." Monthly trial subscriptions are just $9.95 for credit card users.<br></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com<br><br><br><br>Rumors of Osama bin Laden's death are greatly exaggerated and the al-Qaida leader is preparing his next video broadcast to be aired on al-Jazeera, reports an acclaimed Pakistani journalist who has interviewed him.<br><br>Journalist Mir with bin Laden<br><br>In an exclusive interview with Paul L. Williams, author of the new book, “The Dunces of Doomsday,” and David Dastych in Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin, Hamid Mir says bin Laden is not only alive and well but in the process of preparing a video-taped appearance for al-Jazeera, the Qatari Arabian news network.<br><br>Mir, who conducted the only post-9/11 interviews with bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri, says that he remains in sporadic indirect contact with the elusive emir and other al-Qaida officials.<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><br>During one of Mir's interviews, bin Laden announced that he had managed to acquire nuclear weapons for use in the great jihad against the United States.<br><br>"It is not difficult [to obtain tactical nukes]," the al-Qaida chieftain said, "not if you have contacts in Russia with other militant groups. They are available for $10 million and $20 million."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Just over a month ago, on March 15, Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa., told the Philadelphia Inquirer that bin Laden had died of natural causes in Iran. The source for Weldon's monumental announcement was an Iranian exile with the codename Ali. "Ali," he said, "told me that Osama bin Laden is dead. He died in Iran."<br><br>Weldon has long insisted that bin Laden had found sanctuary in Iran. In June 2005, the Pennsylvania congressman exclaimed: "I'm confident that I know for sure that bin Laden has been in and out of Iran. Two years ago, he was in the southern town of Ladis, 10 kilometers inside the Pakistan border. I also know that earlier this year he had a meeting with al-Zarqawi in Iran. If you look at the recent comments coming out of the CIA and some of our military generals, they're now acknowledging the same thing that I've been saying -- that, in fact, he's been in and out of Iran."<br><br>Weldon's comments made headlines throughout the country.<br><br>But contrary to accounts by Weldon, Mir maintains that bin Laden found shelter in the frontier regions of Pakistan, not Iran, in the wake of the bombing of his mountain fortress at Tora Bora. Among the Pashtun tribes, bin Laden remained protected by the Islamic code of mimesis, which demands protection for fellow Muslims who seek shelter in their country -- even if such shelter means risking their lives.<br><br>From 2002 to 2004, bin Laden spent most of his time in the valley of Dir, about 50 miles from the Afghan border on the Kunar Province. Dir remains within the Malakand Pass, the site of some of the fiercest skirmishes under the British Raj. A Pakistani fort still stands where the young Winston Churchill shot down rebels and received a citation for heroism. The fort is presently occupied by Maulvi Sufi Mohamad, an old and revered Muslim scholar, who maintains a Taliban-style rule of the area with public executions of adulterers, homosexuals, apostates and Christian infidels. It was an area in which bin Laden felt quite at home.<br><br>Despite the $25 million bounty the U.S. government placed on his head -- a bounty that is proclaimed by thousands of Pashtu-language leaflets that are dropped by U.S. aircraft on a regular basis, bin Laden felt secure enough to travel to other parts of Pakistan, including periodic trips to Peshawar and the smuggler-infested bazaar town of Rabate J'ali, north of Zahedan, within the center of "the Devil's Triangle," the conjunction of the borders of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran.<br><br>In 2004, according to Mir, bin Laden resettled in the Kunar province of eastern Afghanistan, only to return to the tribal regions of Pakistan in 2005.<br><br>Mir maintains bin Laden now regularly moves from both locations with little fear of capture. The Pakistani journalist says that his beliefs in this regard have been confirmed by Gen. Richard Myers and other leading American military officials.<br><br>Mir's account of the present whereabouts of the elusive emir confirms a story published by WorldNetDaily Aug. 6, 2005.<br><br>Bin Laden, according to Mir, has recently met with Mullah Omar in Afghanistan and will appear on al-Jazeera, the Arab news network, with "a very important message" for the American people within the immediate future. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Osama alive & well, armed with nukes

Postby thoughtographer » Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:35 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Just over a month ago, on March 15, Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa., told the Philadelphia Inquirer that bin Laden had died of natural causes in Iran. The source for Weldon's monumental announcement was an Iranian exile with the codename Ali. "Ali," he said, "told me that Osama bin Laden is dead. He died in Iran."<br><br>Weldon has long insisted that bin Laden had found sanctuary in Iran. In June 2005, the Pennsylvania congressman exclaimed: "I'm confident that I know for sure that bin Laden has been in and out of Iran. Two years ago, he was in the southern town of Ladis, 10 kilometers inside the Pakistan border. I also know that earlier this year he had a meeting with al-Zarqawi in Iran. If you look at the recent comments coming out of the CIA and some of our military generals, they're now acknowledging the same thing that I've been saying -- that, in fact, he's been in and out of Iran."<br><br>Weldon's comments made headlines throughout the country.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Motherfucker. Wel(l) don(e), as in "overcooked". <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 4/21/06 2:36 pm<br></i>
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Re: Osama alive & well, armed with nukes

Postby Qutb » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:17 pm

Weldon's tale of Osama meeting with bogeyman Zarqawi in Iran is not very credible, to put it mildly. Most analysts have been guessing pretty much what Farah says here, so no big surprises. It's a badly kept secret that Osama enjoys the protection of at least a faction of the Pakistani military/security apparatus.<br><br>Unfortunately, I have no doubts Osama was telling the truth when he was talking about how easy it is to purchase a tactical nuke. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Osama alive & well, armed with nukes

Postby thoughtographer » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:28 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Weldon's tale of Osama meeting with bogeyman Zarqawi in Iran is not very credible, to put it mildly. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Mildly, cryptically -- it all works for me. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
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He's dead morons.

Postby darkbeforedawn » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:45 pm

He's dead. He's been dead for years. Pakistan authorities told us he died in Dec. 01. The "recent" videos of him are clearly fake. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: He's dead morons.

Postby thoughtographer » Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:02 pm

We're morons? Shit, I guess you have a good reason to accept the word of Pakistani authorities. Did they produce a corpse? Who the hell said anything about videos, anyway?<br><br>It doesn't matter if he's dead or not. Until there's "proof", he's at the top of the bogeyman heap. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 4/21/06 6:04 pm<br></i>
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Yawn...some bogeyman

Postby darkbeforedawn » Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:35 pm

Some bogeyman.He had nothing to do with 9-11. That's clear. He really is just A spoiled Saudi brat with 15 wives who always had too much money, on the take from the CIA. Cheney is a lot more scarey and he's real and really killing people. Lots of people, starting way back with asbestos. Hey that guy can shoot you at point blank range and no one says boo. If you're not dead, then you have to apologize. <p></p><i></i>
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oooo--I'm shaking

Postby darkbeforedawn » Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:40 pm

And further more, that garbage is just what the PTB want you to eat up. That way after they nuke Cleveland or Chicago or Omaha, then they can say "See we told ya he was gonna nuke us." What crap. We're the bogeymen, the terrorists and the killers. Haven't you got that yet? We're the ones poisoning the world with DU and GMO and Aids. Why do you come to this site if you keep mindlessly repeating the drivel pouring out of the msm? <p></p><i></i>
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North America Harbors World's worst terrorists

Postby darkbeforedawn » Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:04 pm

Forget the Middle East: <br>North America Harbors the World's Most Dangerous Terrorists <br> <br>By JASON MILLER<br><br> <br>“After the explosion itself, anyone on the edge of the explosion (who were lucky enough to survive) would have melted flesh and severe burns, the skin would literally fall off the bone. Anyone who had seen the blast from such a distance would have permanent loss of vision.”<br>(<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.armageddononline">www.armageddononline</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> .org/nuke.php)<br><br>A little perspective, please<br><br>After years of living under the perpetual risk of the ultimate terrorist attack, most people have become acclimated to the distinct possibility of imminent extinction of life on Earth. Fortunately, humans tend to be highly adaptable beings, and most are able to go on with their daily tasks without dwelling on potential doomsday scenarios.<br><br>In fact, people have become so desensitized to the threat of nuclear holocaust that those who still believe American propaganda are more terrified of religious fanatics wielding box cutters than they are of an ICBM capable of annihilating millions.<br><br>According to the FBI, domestic terrorism is:<br><br>“the unlawful use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual based and operating entirely within the United States or its territories without foreign direction committed against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”<br><br>Given the knowledge that it is the United States which created and primarily wields the power to extinguish life on Earth, it is not a tremendous intellectual leap to classify the American government as the world’s most dangerous and most powerful terrorist.<br><br>America’s own domestic law enforcement entity has defined terrorism as “threatened use of force or violence”, intimidation, and coercion against governments or civilian populations for the “furtherance of political or social objectives”.<br><br>What could be more threatening or violent than a nuclear attack? What could be more coercive than the US imposition of its will, culture, and ruthless economic agenda on a global populace like a domineering father abusing his cowed children? Employing terrorist tools of intimidation, coercion and threats of violence, the United States consistently sets the political and social objectives for the rest of the world. <br><br>Remember, Iran, “All options are on the table.”<br><br>America is the Don Corleone of the world community. They make offers you can’t refuse. “Fat Man” and “Little Boy” delivered the Sicilian message that nations defying the United States would find many of their innocent civilians “sleeping with the fishes”. 200,000 dead Japanese showed the skeptics that the Godfather meant business.<br><br>Bearing in mind that the atomic bombs deployed in Japan were mere firecrackers relative to today’s nukes, the following puts a grim perspective on the situation:<br><br>“A single Hiroshima-size blast in downtown Los Angeles, according to a computer projection done several years ago by Physicians for Social Responsibility, would kill about 150,000 people immediately and 100,000 more from neutron and gamma radiation. An additional 800,000 people would be exposed to high-level radiation.”<br>(Seattle Times)<br><br>Evil begets evil<br><br>Not only did the United States let the nuclear genie out of the bottle and unleash it on humanity, through Operation Paperclip, it provided safe haven for Nazi war criminals. During and after World War II, the CIA altered the records of Nazi scientists so they could enter the United States and contribute to the evolution of America’s nuclear weapons program.<br><br>Needing an “enemy” for its indoctrinated citizens to fear, the United States began demonizing Communism in the 1950’s. As they created their “bogeyman” so they could manipulate the masses with psychological terror, America’s leaders pushed a nation with a much weaker economy into an insane scenario of Mutually Assured Destruction and an arms race. By 2004, Russia’s stockpile of warheads had the combined power of 120,000 of the bombs dropped on Hiroshima. <br><br>The combined nuclear capacity of the United States and Russia at the height of the nuclear arms race was enough to eradicate the Earth of life 1,500 times over.<br><br>When is enough, enough?<br><br>According to the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, in 2004 the United States had 10,000 nuclear warheads, 7,000 of which were operational. Yet existing in a realm of thought where logic ceases to exist, America's leaders are obsessed with “national security”. The United States accounts for half of the world’s military expenditures to protect 350 million of the 6.5 billion people on Earth.<br><br>With over 500 land-based ICBMs, the United States can incinerate any region of a 4.5 billion year old planet within a mere 35 minutes. The Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missiles are only one leg of America’s triad of doom. Submarine-based Trident nuclear missiles have the capacity to unleash Armageddon from the depths of the Earth’s tranquil oceans. Maintaining a fleet of B-1, B-2, and B-52 long-range bombers, the USAF can also rain nuclear hell upon millions of unsuspecting “units of collateral damage”.<br><br>Desperation and treachery are the parents of US nuclear invention<br><br>Realizing that the “Nuclear Club” is rapidly expanding, the United States is desperately seeking ways to circumvent treaties in which they have pledged to work toward the elimination of nuclear weapons. As they down-sized their nuclear stock-pile in the 1990’s by retiring ICBM’s like the Peacekeeper, America’s leadership found ways to avoid truly surrendering its tools of terror.<br><br>The United States began diverting substantial portions of its obscene defense budget to its Stockpile Stewardship Program to perpetuate and expand its nuclear capacities. Consider this 1996 statement by the Department of Energy: <br><br>"[n]ational security policies in the post-Cold War era require that all historical capabilities of the weapons laboratories, industrial plants, and NTS [the Nevada Test Site] be maintained," and that "denuclearisation... is not feasible based on current national security policy."<br><br>With the ethereal nuclear genie slipping further from its grasp, the United States is now focusing its resources and determined efforts toward ensuring nuclear proliferation to those it deems deserving. Israel, the US satellite in the Middle East, and India, a nation Uncle Sam is determined to lure into his bed, both qualify. Iran and North Korea are obviously not welcome at the nuclear party, whether they apply the technology for military purposes or not.<br><br>On the domestic front, America’s bellicose government is emphasizing the enhancement of existing nuclear weapons to give the appearance that it is not developing new ones. For example, the B61-11 is a modification of the B61, a “tactical nuke” which “only” has 2/3 the power of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. To neutralize nations which have developed weapons facilities deep underground, America created the B61-11 to burrow into rock before discharging its nuclear payload. America’s Neocons are itching to play with their new toys in Iran.<br><br>The Pentagon claims that these “bunker busters” would pose no threat to life outside of the underground targets. However, Dr. Robert Nelson of Princeton University offers a significantly differing opinion:<br><br>"No earth-burrowing missile can penetrate deep enough into the earth to contain an explosion with a nuclear yield even as small as 1 percent of the 15 kiloton Hiroshima weapon. "The explosion simply blows out a massive crater of radioactive dirt, which rains down on the local region with an especially intense and deadly fallout."<br><br>Dr. Nelson’s analysis is substantially more seaworthy than the stone the Pentagon tried to float when they proclaimed earth-burrowing “mini-nukes” to be “safe”. <br><br>A Messiah complex, severely stunted emotional intelligence and profound ignorance are the defining characteristics of the man capable of making nuclear holocaust a reality within minutes. In light of this, Osama bin Laden, box-cutters, and suicide bombers don’t seem quite so formidable or worrisome.<br><br>Jason Miller is a 39 year old sociopolitical essayist with a degree in liberal arts and an extensive self-education (derived from an insatiable appetite for reading). He is a member of Amnesty International and an avid supporter of Oxfam International and Human Rights Watch. He welcomes responses at willpowerful@hotmail.com or comments on his blog, Thomas Paine's Corner, at <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://civillibertarian">civillibertarian</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> .blogspot.com/.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: oooo--I'm shaking

Postby thoughtographer » Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:04 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Why do you come to this site if you keep mindlessly repeating the drivel pouring out of the msm?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Why do you fail to see that I'm not even fucking CLOSE to doing anything like that? Whether it's that you're too dense, or I'm too cryptic, I suppose it doesn't matter; regardless, I'm not going to answer your questions. Not everyone is so certain or obvious about their beliefs as you, but they're working on it.<br><br>What really blows my mind is that you can't tell that we're on the same side. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 4/21/06 7:06 pm<br></i>
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the same side---really?

Postby darkbeforedawn » Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:05 am

You sure had me fooled. What intellect lurks behind that sly name!!! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Osama alive & well, armed with nukes

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:32 am

So now the animatronic bin Laden short films are getting marketed better. He must've gotten a better agent.<br><br>No trailer? Maybe next time at the beginning of Mission Impossible 4. Or the next Tom Hanks project.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The Pakistani journalist says that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>his beliefs</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> in this regard have been confirmed by Gen. Richard Myers and other leading American military officials.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Oh, well then. That's a slam dunk. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Osama alive & well, armed with nukes

Postby Qutb » Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:47 am

I agree Cheney is more scary than Osama. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Cheney vs bin Laden

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:56 am

Cheney certainly has a higher body count by far.<br><br>But bin Laden now has a book club like Oprah. <br>And isn't the pen mighier than the sword?<br><br>Last 'message' bin Laden recommended William Blum's 'Rogue State.' I wonder what the next book recommendation will be.<br><br>Maybe 'None Dare Call it Conspiracy.' <p></p><i></i>
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Re: the same side---really?

Postby thoughtographer » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:47 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>You sure had me fooled. What intellect lurks behind that sly name!!!<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>A human being lurks behind this name.<br><br>Was it because I used the word "bogeyman" before? I was simply trying to say that Osama bin Laden is still at the top of the pile when they need to pull out someone's picture to scare everyone. I don't care if he's alive, dead, rich, poor, real or imaginary; I only care what function his image serves, and I don't like it. You're claiming knowledge of facts for which you have no convincing evidence, giving them no more value to me than information coming from the media -- mainstream or scattershot.<br><br>I had no idea it was going to send you into a tailspin, spouting off three-letter acronyms and nuclear threat nightmares.<br><br>-- <br>Though T. Ographer, MSM, OBL, PTB, KMA <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
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